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maxilive said:
It would be for this server map due to the chunks already being generated :p But I'm sure the unstable land would be more than enough for players to experience the new features in 1.8.
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Yeah it sounds like the world will be the same, but the border of the unstable land won't match up to the border of the normal world. So some sort of ladder to get up or waterslide to get down might be in order!
 
As one of the people whom has a huge project ongoing since January a new map will just undo all of that. I put a lot of time and effort into my build.

Only way i could agree to a new map is to have that build moved and last time that took a LOT of work to do for the amount of builds that had to be moved. I dont think the admin would want to do that again.

if needs be just extend the border of the map to be a bit bigger that would give all the new land we need.
Or
as pointed out just re generate the chunks that players are not located in to make the map work with
new content.
OR give us free building mat's for 2 months
so we can get back to where we where with build
also flatten the area required as that is what took the longest for players to do.
 
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toString said:
Yeah it sounds like the world will be the same, but the border of the unstable land won't match up to the border of the normal world. So some sort of ladder to get up or waterslide to get down might be in order!
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How about a great wall of china type border structure? Would probably need a lot of cobble though!

Do you normally give any notice before resetting the unstable land? It would be nice to have time for a quick check to make sure I havent left anything valuable in my little igloo mining outpost and waterslide test centre.
 
It's unlikely that it's going to be reset in the next 24 hours :)

I may reset it when we move the server to the config on the testing server - only if I can find some kind of cool modified terrain generator to substitute the default with though. It will then be reset again once 1.8 is out.
 
I'm currently on holiday in Portmeirion, so don't expect any activity from me on the server.

I know that changing map is an unpopular option considering the problems from last time. But considering the fact that Jeb was talking about 1.7 seeds... we are using a 1.3 one I believe. This could lead to some world corruption and I doubt anyone wants world holes on the map.
a lot of people have put in enormous amounts of effort into their builds. I acknowledge this but to a degree I have aswell. I'm sure that I wouldn't want to lose that work completely due to corruption. And the idea that the unstable land would be able to give us all our 1.8 needs is quite frankly, ridiculous. Not only are giant mushrooms and the like going to be rare, but this is a server with usually 5/6 people on, and at peaks, 20 or more. Along with the fact that amazing landscapes we discover will vanish within a few weeks and be replaced by potentially lesser landscapes is always disappointing.

I believe the first idea of the unstable landscape was so that we had a constant stream of resources to collect, not as a substitute for the biggest update in minecraft history.
Saying that we will not have an up to date map just because of people not wishing to have the bother of registering their builds for a transfer if one is available, who will most likely later be complaining over the outdated map and jagged edges and corruption.

I do not for one moment believe that it is sensible to delay, because it will be a delay in the end, a map change that will eventually be wanted by the very people who have delayed it.
I hate making assumptions but for once I feel that this time my assumptions are based in fact because before you took over french, people were happy with the server and as far as I know, did not want a new map. Later, they did, and you gave them a new map and they were happy. I believe the same is happening now.

Minecraft is a constantly evolving game and I believe that the threat of a map change has been approaching for a while game due to the evolution and changes of Minecraft, and I hope that people understand while it may not be the most beneficial change straight away, it will be later. I also hope that the admins do decide to change the map, however I have no influence over their decision and it is up to them, I am just trying to state my argument as to why the map should change.


NOTE: This was written on a netbook so it'll be not the best thing I've written. ^.^
 
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I have to say I agree with RoboSprog here.

I don't follow the twitter feeds or the likes so I'm not up to date with all the changes coming but I am aware of the major world changes and I don't think unstable land will offer enough of the new world for it to actually be of benefit.
I wasn't on the server when the map changed last time and don't tinker with it on that level so I don't know what's involved in a map change or how much work it is for the admins but I'm guessing a lot or it wouldn't be such an issue.

Would it be feasible for the more active/capable members to help out in the saving/migration of users builds (even limit this to 1 build each member) and the major spawn builds??

I think if we continue to delay the map change we are going to lose out on the whole and it’ll end up worse when we’re actually forced to do a world change.....
 
not that i play any more, boo, but it's my opinion that I've been through enough major updates to minecraft to know that big changes to the gameplay or the way the maps are generated pretty much require a freshly generated new world. It isnt ever a popular option, yet people always want to build on new grounds. That isn't possible if the only new grounds are unstable and regenerated every so often.

when 1.7 was released ( i think it was 1.7) which added new trees and changed to amount of iron and coal that was generated ect ect, linktart was on the previous world map. Everybody moved to the new areas and pretty much deserted the original spawn, largely because none of the new materials were there.

Robosprog, tummy, tostring - they are all correct. It'll be needed eventually. If only it was made easier to move builds to new worlds, then it wouldn't be such a difficult topic to discuss.
 
I'm not saying either way about whether or not a new world will happen but as has been stated before, we won't be moving anything over if it does happen.

There's a small chance the admins could help with levelling some ground but that's certainly not a promise.
 
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Request to be added to whitelist to join the MC server please.

LinkTart username: thaldarin
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I don't really do forums, have bought quite a few times off of OC for my own computery bits.

Janosuk can vouch for me I believe.
 
RoboSprog said:
I'm currently on holiday in Portmeirion, so don't expect any activity from me on the server.

I know that changing map is an unpopular option considering the problems from last time. But considering the fact that Jeb was talking about 1.7 seeds... we are using a 1.3 one I believe. This could lead to some world corruption and I doubt anyone wants world holes on the map.
a lot of people have put in enormous amounts of effort into their builds. I acknowledge this but to a degree I have aswell. I'm sure that I wouldn't want to lose that work completely due to corruption. And the idea that the unstable land would be able to give us all our 1.8 needs is quite frankly, ridiculous. Not only are giant mushrooms and the like going to be rare, but this is a server with usually 5/6 people on, and at peaks, 20 or more. Along with the fact that amazing landscapes we discover will vanish within a few weeks and be replaced by potentially lesser landscapes is always disappointing.

I believe the first idea of the unstable landscape was so that we had a constant stream of resources to collect, not as a substitute for the biggest update in minecraft history.
Saying that we will not have an up to date map just because of people not wishing to have the bother of registering their builds for a transfer if one is available, who will most likely later be complaining over the outdated map and jagged edges and corruption.

I do not for one moment believe that it is sensible to delay, because it will be a delay in the end, a map change that will eventually be wanted by the very people who have delayed it.
I hate making assumptions but for once I feel that this time my assumptions are based in fact because before you took over french, people were happy with the server and as far as I know, did not want a new map. Later, they did, and you gave them a new map and they were happy. I believe the same is happening now.

Minecraft is a constantly evolving game and I believe that the threat of a map change has been approaching for a while game due to the evolution and changes of Minecraft, and I hope that people understand while it may not be the most beneficial change straight away, it will be later. I also hope that the admins do decide to change the map, however I have no influence over their decision and it is up to them, I am just trying to state my argument as to why the map should change.


NOTE: This was written on a netbook so it'll be not the best thing I've written. ^.^
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This is spot on tbh.
Also transferring builds to dif maps is very easy with world edit and the best way to do this would be limit 1 build per person. Then let everyone log onto new map find the location they would like for the old build set home so admins can get to the location even if player is logged out. But tbh best option would be not let anyone transfer builds reason for this it gives everyone an even start and encourages working together more.

Admin saves the schematic from there old build and basically pastes it on the player chosen spot. Things like landscaping ect is the players responsibility. I know world edit can be a pain when comes to saving chest contents my attitude is tough luck new map = new resources. Transfering one build should take average 5-15 mins from what I have seen on my server. But I am very experienced with world edit so may differ depending on the person using it.
 
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