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I'm all up for a wipe for new content :).

In regards to transferring items that would be nice & some folk may wish to dismantle builds. However it would be likely that people would be limited to X number of chests per person ... if this was an option going forward.

Alternatively if transferring of items was an issue, we could potentially look at starter packs/chests for everyone.

Although I’m not too fussy as I don’t have any builds I’m attached to :P
 
I have stated my opinion earlier, but to recap/update

I really want my stuff and preferably moved, I am prepared to put any work necessary to avoid losing my stuff, but to me it is an absolute priority to keep it as I have invested so much time into building it and it is still so far from completion.

I dont mind in principle the idea of a gate to the 1.7 world, but I feel it would be better to move it forward.


What I am unsure of currently is the problems with moving from 1.7 to 1.8 in regards to keeping my stuff?
 
So much for the portal to a new map idea then. :p
I want to keep everything that I've built this time around seen as they've taken so much time/resource to do.
And of course people who have built very little would say WIPE DA MAPZ, why would they care about losing effectively nothing? ¬_¬
 
I'll be honest, I would welcome a complete wipe and nothing transferred over.

I'm actually looking forward to being dumped at spawn with nothing and a whole new map to explore.
The whole fun of MC for me has been walking around a HUGE empty map, mining resources, building something then realising I don't have enought of something then going off to find it.

I understand people have put A LOT of work into builds and I'm constantly impressed by what I see but we all gotta realise this is still a beta game, chances are map wipes are going to happen.

If I had to choose then I'd vote that each player gets 2 chests in the pantheon (we have to limit it) and that's the ONLY thing to get moved. Then set expectations now that on the next map wipe, be it 1.9 or retail, the same happens again.

Another option - *I don't want this and it won't be popular but still* - continue on the current map as is, then come retail say "game's now retail, new map, nothing moves"... Least amount of map wipes, but ppl still won't be happy as they'll have put even more time into their current builds.

If people want to leave the server because of this then that's up to them, by the sounds of it we're going to lose ppl either way.
We'd be rich if we ever found a way to keep EVERYONE happy....
 
As said before, I'm guessing FT is looking for ideas that mean he doesn't have to maintain and upkeep 2 separate worlds + plugin + the server memory hit. As a guess.

At the same time we can't expect the admin(s) to waste hours/days of their own time in creating schematics of peoples builds and pasting them somewhere suitable in a new world.

IF there's a wipe and the old world isn't kept at all - one thing people can do, like I and others have already done, is to use the WorldDownloader mod to save your stuff to a SP world.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/333322-173-worlddownloader/
 
Mr_Moose said:
I understand people have put A LOT of work into builds and I'm constantly impressed by what I see but we all gotta realise this is still a beta game, chances are map wipes are going to happen.

If I had to choose then I'd vote that each player gets 2 chests in the pantheon (we have to limit it) and that's the ONLY thing to get moved. Then set expectations now that on the next map wipe, be it 1.9 or retail, the same happens again.
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Seriously how much time have you put into this because I have been building since DAY ONE of the last reset. I have 12 chests FULL of stone, Sandstone, Obsideon and other rare materials as well...

Having dug a VERY LARGE area under the ocean and grown grass all the way down to the bottom...built a MASSIVE castle out of SANDSTONE that required me to spend over a month digging sand!

My creations are only half finished (if that), so to lose them now would be devastating...

I do however REALLY want 1.8, honestly I would do all the move myself if required, but to put me onto a single player world would be Bye Bye PoDGO
 
PoD said:
Seriously how much time have you put into this because I have been building since DAY ONE of the last reset. I have 12 chests FULL of stone, Sandstone, Obsideon and other rare materials as well...

Having dug a VERY LARGE area under the ocean and grown grass all the way down to the bottom...built a MASSIVE castle out of SANDSTONE that required me to spend over a month digging sand!

My creations are only half finished (if that), so to lose them now would be devastating...

I do however REALLY want 1.8, honestly I would do all the move myself if required, but to put me onto a single player world would be Bye Bye PoDGO
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I'm sorry, I don't see your problem here... I've voiced my opinion and I'm fully entitled to do so.
It was not my intention to offend you but if I have then tough, get over it....

Yes, I don't play as often as others. No, I don't do MASSIVE build projects but I do respect the time and effort that players put into them.. does this mean that my opinion counts any less than anyone else.. no it doesn't.
 
imo multiplayer isnt the place for huge builds unless its a community project and you can get it done quicker that way.

I have probably 2 or 3 medium size builds (100x200 ish) and i really dont mind if theres a server wipe. The idea of being able to take over a few chests of materials is a good one and would at least allow me to dismantle some of my builds and store those mats in chests for the transition.

Having dual realms will also make no difference to me as i will always play on the newer version, so im all in favour of a server wipe and a limited number of chests per person to carry over to start fresh.

If it happens we need another wipe for 1.9 then as long as people are aware of that possibility now then its upto them whether they want to take the risk of investing time into another mega build after 1.8
 
Mr_Moose said:
I'm sorry, I don't see your problem here... I've voiced my opinion and I'm fully entitled to do so.
It was not my intention to offend you but if I have then tough, get over it....

Yes, I don't play as often as others. No, I don't do MASSIVE build projects but I do respect the time and effort that players put into them.. does this mean that my opinion counts any less than anyone else.. no it doesn't.
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No I want to highlight (and do not take offense at this) the callousness of your suggestion about losing everything when you admit to having nothing much you care to lose...that isn't losing anything in fact your aren't really a concern except for moving to 1.8 which we have established we are doing anyway!

To rephrase: If your opinion is reset the map because you want it fresh and my opinion is I want a fresh map, but with my creations supported for the reason that I spent an age working on it then my suggestion is more relevant and relative than yours for the simple fact that my suggestion supports my idea AND yours!!

If I don't speak up and object to your opinion then I will lose everything where as if you don't speak up then you lose nothing you are concerned with and gain everything you wanted anyway! I hope you understand why I raised an objection by highlighting your suggestion! Nothing personal :)



Again to state, I am happy to do all the work in moving my creation over, I just absolutely do not want to lose it all. I know I would lose interest in Minecraft if I felt all my buildings were just going to deleted..I haven't built small things for laughs I have built big things because they take time and are hard to do!!
 
Some of the things I have built
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Mined from sand and using wool died light blue using Lapis Lazuli
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Note the water above
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with grass moving to the bottom
 
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PoD said:
No I want to highlight (and do not take offense at this) the callousness of your suggestion ....
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No offence taken, but it was certainly not said with any callous intent. It was simply my own opinion.
I only took offence to the start of the post - "Seriously how much time have you put into this" - as it came across as an attack on my post alone when others have voiced the same opinion...

PoD said:
If I don't speak up and object to your opinion then I will lose everything where as if you don't speak up then you lose nothing you are concerned with and gain everything you wanted anyway! I hope you understand why I raised an objection by highlighting your suggestion! Nothing personal :)
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Agreed and that's why FT opened it up for discussion, to find out where we ALL stand.
Yes, I don't care what we do I will continue to play on the server regardless but I would prefer a wipe.

Awesome build by the way ;)
 
I think 1.8 and 1.9 are going to be the biggest content releases before mc is official released. Jeb has stated both 1.8 and 1.9 will need both new terrain generated.

I would say is have 2 maps our current map and a 1.8 map.
When 1.9 comes out replace 1.8 map.
When minecraft release comes out replace 1.9 and make it primary map and let people have access to current map for 1 month then remove it.

This gives people time to move items over if they wish. If admins feel within that time they would like to help move a couple of builds. The player have to request a build move on forums with coords,details and reason for move max number builds = 1. This would prevent people requesting stupid moves e.g a hut or house that took 5 mins to build.

Tbh doing a map wipe for 1.8 is pointless when 1.9 will need another one.
 
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I dont really mind what happens ive built a huge amount of stuff above land and also created a huge cave network on my own, i also built this knowing that a wipe would most likely occur so didn't do any mega builds.

I find the most fun is at the start where everyone is out exploring the new land and finding a patch of land for yourself to call home, with 1.8 i think this will be even better with npc villages and rivers etc to explore should be great.

Either way i dont mind a full wipe, although it would be nice if we could bring some stuff across.
 
nuttyprot said:
I would say is have 2 maps our current map and a 1.8 map.
When 1.9 comes out replace 1.8 map.
When minecraft release comes out replace 1.9 and make it primary map and let people have access to current map for 1 month then remove it.
This gives people time to move items over if they wish. If admins feel within that time they would like to help move a couple of builds. The player have to request a build move on forums with coords,details and reason for move max number builds = 1. This would prevent people requesting stupid moves e.g a hut or house that took 5 mins to build.

Tbh doing a map wipe for 1.8 is pointless when 1.9 will need another one.
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Good point. We've got 1.8, 1.9 and full release all within the next 3 months. Why completely move to 1.8 for people to start big builds (the Crystal Maze will be epic it if works!) for another reset at 1.9, and if not 1.9 then surely at full release a short while later.
 
******* 1.8 'LEAKED' *******

notch Markus Persson
Ooh, looks like 1.8 has leaked, not that I'd ever admit that. ;) Be careful when installing software you don't trust though.
notch Markus Persson
If you do use it, remember to report bugs, and to feel slightly bad. ;)
notch Markus Persson
(I am fine with you using it. Make sure you get it from the leaked url we are hosting, though)


http://assets.minecraft.net/1_8-pre/minecraft.jar
 
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The ocuk MC server has been through many server resets, I've been playing the game for 2 years and have lost everything I've made in the old ocuk servers because of this. It really doesn't bother me losing what I've already made. To me minecraft is about exploring and building new things, not sitting there admiring what you've already made.

Every time that it's come to needing a map reset the same debate always happens with many people threatening to leave the server. If you don't like playing the game, if you're only playing just for what you've already built then you're doing it wrong. If you can't handle having a whole new map to explore and build on, which in the end is what MC is about then you have to rethink your priorities.

Every reset has, in my opinion been a healthy reinvigoration for the server and the people in it. Anyone else that's been here as long as I have and been through them before will agree with me. There's nothing better then the first few weeks of scouting out land for some cool community projects, heading around peoples new places, finding out where they are, seeing how their houses are getting on, people helping others get decent tools and such. That's what minecraft is about to me, not everyone sitting there with massive stores of materials and tools just building and building bigger things themselves.

I'll reiterate that I am in favour of a complete server wipe with nothing kept over from the current map or else a second map with a fresh start for the people that want it. I'd be willing to donate to help the second server if it's decided that one is needed. And before new people say that I have nothing to lose with this server I do, I played it a lot when it was first reset, I have a long rail line built singlehandedly to my house. My house itself is dug out of a mountain and quite large, I have a collection of over 20 wolves and a beautiful view over a waterfall and valley all to myself.

I'm more than willing to give that up to experience those first few new weeks of a build where the spirit of the server is determined anew.
 
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notch Markus Persson
Ooh, looks like 1.8 has leaked, not that I'd ever admit that. ;) Be careful when installing software you don't trust though.
notch Markus Persson
If you do use it, remember to report bugs, and to feel slightly bad. ;)
notch Markus Persson
(I am fine with you using it. Make sure you get it from the leaked url we are hosting, though)


http://assets.minecraft.net/1_8-pre/minecraft.jar
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Oh my its beautiful!

Theres beef and melons and rotting flesh and enderpearls!

and Stone bricks and vines and thin glass and pumpkin and melon seeds and iron bars and sponge and MINI CRITS!!!!!

and pigs have snouts and run really fast

and furnaces give off a yellow light rather than white light in fact lighting in general is massively improved
light at dusk is like light at dusk is irl
and torches give off a more yellow glow further from them
 
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