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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

Is new windows installation needed when you upgrade the platform form intel to amd?
Last time when I changed my system was when windows 7 was released.
 
My windows 10 was totally fine being transferred over without rebuild and haven't noticed any issues. Although your windows license might not be.

Going to leave it like that until NVME's come down in price.
 
Is new windows installation needed when you upgrade the platform form intel to amd?
Last time when I changed my system was when windows 7 was released.

I'm in the same boat.

My windows 10 was totally fine being transferred over without rebuild and haven't noticed any issues. Although your windows license might not be.

Going to leave it like that until NVME's come down in price.

Good to know. Mind if I ask, did you just plug your os drive in and it worked? License wise mine was originally a retail win7 key with the free upgrade to win10. I have linked a Microsoft email (outlook) to the install as I read somewhere that made changing hardware relatively painless.
 
My Windows 10 was fine too. Just connected NVME m.2 drive with windows 10 that I used previously for skylake and everything was working from the start.
I also had retail 7>windows 10 key
However I decided to reinstall it anyway as I thought it's gonna be better in a long run;]
 
My Windows 10 was fine too. Just connected NVME m.2 drive with windows 10 that I used previously for skylake and everything was working from the start.
I also had retail 7>windows 10 key
However I decided to reinstall it anyway as I thought it's gonna be better in a long run;]
How did you reinstall? If you reinstall the win7 retail key does it automatically upgrade to win10?
 
How did you reinstall? If you reinstall the win7 retail key does it automatically upgrade to win10?
Download latest ISO from MS website and you should be ok just to install activated windows 10.

In the beginning of W10 there was a lot of issues with activation, even though I had retail version of windows 7, updated to retail W10, after updating motherboard BIOS my activation was not working. At the time I was hanging on the phone with Microsoft many times, frustrated and in the end they gave me Windows 10 key.

I believe at some point they made changes to the activation, so for now it should be just simple windows 10 install with no issues even though you upgraded from W7
 
Download latest ISO from MS website and you should be ok just to install activated windows 10.

In the beginning of W10 there was a lot of issues with activation, even though I had retail version of windows 7, updated to retail W10, after updating motherboard BIOS my activation was not working. At the time I was hanging on the phone with Microsoft many times, frustrated and in the end they gave me Windows 10 key.

I believe at some point they made changes to the activation, so for now it should be just simple windows 10 install with no issues even though you upgraded from W7
Ah cool. Thanks for that.
 
I'm in the same boat.



Good to know. Mind if I ask, did you just plug your os drive in and it worked? License wise mine was originally a retail win7 key with the free upgrade to win10. I have linked a Microsoft email (outlook) to the install as I read somewhere that made changing hardware relatively painless.

I upgraded from a 2600K system on the weekend. Windows booted fine. It spent a while installing something or other but I didn't have any problems. For best results, I decided to reinstall Windows 10 anyway and went ahead and did so from a flash drive. It allowed me to transfer my license from my old build to the new one - all I had to do was log into my Microsoft account. This was despite my old license being based on Windows 7 being upgraded to 8 and then 10.

Overall, big thumbs up to Microsoft!
 
I upgraded from a 2600K system on the weekend. Windows booted fine. It spent a while installing something or other but I didn't have any problems. For best results, I decided to reinstall Windows 10 anyway and went ahead and did so from a flash drive. It allowed me to transfer my license from my old build to the new one - all I had to do was log into my Microsoft account. This was despite my old license being based on Windows 7 being upgraded to 8 and then 10.

Overall, big thumbs up to Microsoft!
yea sounds like they have made the whole thing a lot easier. i'll just plug my os drive in to begin with then probably do a clean install at a later date.

cheers for the info chaps. that's one less stresser to worry about when I do start to put the parts together!
 
I recommend you do a reinstall of windows 10 if you switch to ryzen. When I got my Ryzen setup I just swapped it over without reinstalling. All the games and applications worked fine, but when I did some benching I noticed my scores were less than others here on this forum.

I reinstalled windows and performance improved.
 
I recommend you do a reinstall of windows 10 if you switch to ryzen. When I got my Ryzen setup I just swapped it over without reinstalling. All the games and applications worked fine, but when I did some benching I noticed my scores were less than others here on this forum.

I reinstalled windows and performance improved.

oh yea I will do a fresh install - just wanted to be able to chuck the os drive in to begin with to see that all was working (hardware wise)
 
I upgraded from a 2600K system on the weekend. Windows booted fine. It spent a while installing something or other but I didn't have any problems. ...

That's actually really impressive... the pain of the reinstall is one of the big hassles with motherboard upgrades, imho. If MS have gotten it to the point where it's not much worse than swapping your GPU, then hats off to them, tbh.

How're you finding the performance of new vs old? :)
 
That's actually really impressive... the pain of the reinstall is one of the big hassles with motherboard upgrades, imho. If MS have gotten it to the point where it's not much worse than swapping your GPU, then hats off to them, tbh.

How're you finding the performance of new vs old? :)

To be honest I didn't really do much once the rig was back up and running - I think I just used Windows to download a new BIOS for the motherboard. It seemed OK but I suppose more usage would tell.

Performance wise it feels about the same as the 2600K @ 4.5ghz. I don't do much multithreaded stuff, so this was more a platform upgrade for the future than sorting out a lack of performance :)
 
Performance wise it feels about the same as the 2600K @ 4.5ghz. I don't do much multithreaded stuff, so this was more a platform upgrade for the future than sorting out a lack of performance :)

Still nice to know. Tbh, I'm coming from a worse place than you were, so what to you is more of the same might well be an improvement for me ^^ If I could gain even 10% in single thread, then a hex-core would satisfy me until Zen2 :)
 
Well my dead MSI B350 Tomahawk RMA was rejected due to over tightening screw points while fitting to my case and thermal paste being present in the CPU socket :) funny old thing it worked with the thermal paste present :) so lesson learned, do not buy from SCAM ever :) and all because the BIOS bricked itself during an update........................................
 
Well my dead MSI B350 Tomahawk RMA was rejected due to over tightening screw points while fitting to my case and thermal paste being present in the CPU socket :) funny old thing it worked with the thermal paste present :) so lesson learned, do not buy from SCAM ever :) and all because the BIOS bricked itself during an update........................................

I don't know where you would stand with the warranty on updating the BIOS on that board.

But, did they send you pictures of the apparent thermal compound in the socket? or the apparent damage to the board from overtightened strews? if the board was working with the CPU in the socket and the strews holding the board in place then those were not the cause of the problem with it.

Do they know it happened when flashing the BIOS? you can rightfully argue that Their cited issues with the board are not what caused it to fail, for a start "overtightened strews" in its self does not harm the board, that would have to cause cracks in the board that then severed circuitry, (very unlikely) can they prove that happened?
Also get onto MSI about it. see what they say.

PS: i don't get why these days a £100 board wouldn't have dual BIOS :confused:
My £85 Z97 board does.
 
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Well my dead MSI B350 Tomahawk RMA was rejected due to over tightening screw points while fitting to my case and thermal paste being present in the CPU socket :) funny old thing it worked with the thermal paste present :) so lesson learned, do not buy from SCAM ever :) and all because the BIOS bricked itself during an update........................................

What exactly happened to your board? Did the BIOS flashback not work?
 
I don't know where you would stand with the warranty on updating the BIOS on that board.

But, did they send you pictures of the apparent thermal compound in the socket? or the apparent damage to the board from overtightened strews? if the board was working with the CPU in the socket and the strews holding the board in place then those were not the cause of the problem with it.

Do they know it happened when flashing the BIOS? you can rightfully argue that Their cited issues with the board are not what caused it to fail, for a start "overtightened strews" in its self does not harm the board, that would have to cause cracks in the board that then severed circuitry, (very unlikely) can they prove that happened?
Also get onto MSI about it. see what they say.

PS: i don't get why these days a £100 board wouldn't have dual BIOS :confused:
My £85 Z97 board does.

Cannot be bothered arguing the toss with those lot. Aye the thermal paste was present and cleaned off by myself to the best of my ability on the initial build. I did this whilst fault finding as it came with stock V1.0 BIOS and would not run with my RAM. Have not asked for a photo and told them to skip it.

I explained in very clear language how the fault happened, and it irks a little that they will not have even tested the board and purely rejected the RMA on superficial "damage" to the mobo. Damn shame as the MSI B350 Tomahawk is a solid board.

Here is the fabulous line from SCAM:

"This has been rejected due to thermal compound found on several contact points inside the CPU socket and One screw has been over tightened to the point of exposing copper. We are unable to process this RMA, would you like us to return it to you?"

lol
 
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What exactly happened to your board? Did the BIOS flashback not work?
Flashback failed hard. Basically whilst flashing from 1.40 to 1.50 the system froze at 70ish percent and then rebooted. After that it came up with an error stating it could not find the HDDs, it would not past post, no ability to get into the BIOS etc.

I was using M-Flash from the BIOS selection. The replacement board is up and running as l had a bad feeling about the RMA as l felt they would not honour it.

So sourced a replacement separately.

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