*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

[Yaayuh!]

The kit is 2 of these.. BLS8G4D30AESBK

In regards to latency and bandwidth, here's the aida64 results.

Latency isn't great, but you do have geardown mode enabled and quite lose timings. But otherwise good considering the price.

 

[keenan]

Latency isn't great, but you do have geardown mode enabled and quite lose timings. But otherwise good considering the price.

You mean fantastic for the price right? Taking into account that this kit was less than £75, sold as 3000Mhz cl15 and nowhere near the cost or performance of B-die sticks I wouldn't say these timing are lose at all.

Regarding latency, what are you comparing it to?

Apart from TRCDRD being pretty stubborn, which timings would you say are lose and needs attention?

 

[Aretak]

You mean fantastic for the price right? Taking into account that this kit was less than £75, sold as 3000Mhz cl15 and nowhere near the cost or performance of B-die sticks I wouldn't say these timing are lose at all.

Regarding latency, what are you comparing it to?

My latency was ~62ns running at 3200MHz 14-13-13-28 and manually tightened subtimings with my 2700X (with Gear Down Mode disabled). A lot of people seem to get ~60ns or just under at 3466MHz with tweaking (though I could never get mine stable at that speed no matter what I tried). How much difference it actually makes to performance I couldn't say.

/edit/ Though reading properly and seeing that you're not running B-die and first-gen Ryzen, it's no surprise that it's higher. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

[Yaayuh!]

You mean fantastic for the price right? Taking into account that this kit was less than £75, sold as 3000Mhz cl15 and nowhere near the cost or performance of B-die sticks I wouldn't say these timing are lose at all.

Regarding latency, what are you comparing it to?

Yeah, to be fair it is fantastic for the price, Samsung B-Die is £LOL.

I get 68ns with 3232MHz 14,14,14,14,28 on an 1800X and 3466MHz with decent timings would net me 65ns and quicker. Zen+ is quicker, so don't try and compare to that at this stage.

Out of interest, what voltages are you running?

Edit: Try bringing TRC down, should be tRAS + tRP, certainly a place to start, try tRAS + tRP + 4 to begin with. I'll export my current BIOS settings later and share, it's been a while since i've done anything with it now, all my other builds I've not bothered with.

 

[keenan]

Out of interest, what voltages are you running?

Edit: Try bringing TRC down, should be tRAS + tRP, certainly a place to start. I'll export my current BIOS settings later and share.

CPU - 1.224
SOC - 1.1v
DRAM - 1.45v

I'll try bringing TRC down and report back..

 

[keenan]

Though reading properly and seeing that you're not running B-die and first-gen Ryzen, it's no surprise that it's higher. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

I was pretty stressed when after all my hard work I saw the latency from 2600 build, but I soon realized that Zen+ is better optimized.

 

[pokerking]

Unfortunately the A320 chipset is locked as far as overclocking goes, even Ryzen Master has no effect.

I thought as much. Im going to cancel the order and build a ryzen system using a B450 board. Is it better to buy a ryzen 5 with 8 threads rather than a cheaper 3? It will be used for CIV 6.

 

[keenan]

I thought as much. Im going to cancel the order and build a ryzen system using a B450 board. Is it better to buy a ryzen 5 with 8 threads rather than a cheaper 3? It will be used for CIV 6.

What's the difference in price on these builds with Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 Quad and Ryzen 5 6 core respectively?

To future proof I would say go with the Ryzen 5. Also the 1600 is only about 10% slower than the second gen 2600 so it might be a better option to set you sights on that.

Why not just build it yourself?

 

[pokerking]

What's the difference in price on these builds with Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 Quad and Ryzen 5 6 core respectively?

To future proof I would say go with the Ryzen 5. Also the 1600 is only about 10% slower than the second gen 2600 so it might be a better option to set you sights on that.

Why not just build it yourself?

I'm going to build it and buy the components separately. The prebuilt units use FSP power supplys and none overclock motherboards I guess for Warranty purposes.

I'm going to go with a Ryzen 5, not sure which one yet, I thought Intel were bad for 1 million model numbers ha! More reaserch needed I think.

 

[keenan]

I'm going to build it and buy the components separately. The prebuilt units use FSP power supplys and none overclock motherboards I guess for Warranty purposes.

I'm going to go with a Ryzen 5, not sure which one yet, I thought Intel were bad for 1 million model numbers ha! More reaserch needed I think.

Do you have a budget in mind?

 

[pokerking]

Do you have a budget in mind?

Hi I was going to spend £600 on a Ryzen pre built system with an 1050ti.

So max of £600

 

[Yaayuh!]

@keenan

Here's a dump of my BIOS/UEFI settings (ASUS CHVI).

Spoiler: 4040 3232.txt

[2019/04/10 18:46:23]
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
BCLK Frequency [101.0000]
BCLK_Divider [Auto]
Custom CPU Core Ratio [Auto]
> CPU Core Ratio [40.00]
Performance Bias [Auto]
Memory Frequency [DDR4-3232MHz]
Core Performance Boost [Disabled]
SMT Mode [Auto]
EPU Power Saving Mode [Disabled]
TPU [Keep Current Settings]
CPU Core Voltage [Manual mode]
- CPU Core Voltage Override [1.37500]
CPU SOC Voltage [Manual mode]
- VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.10000]
DRAM Voltage [1.35500]
1.8V PLL Voltage [1.80000]
1.05V SB Voltage [Auto]
Target TDP [Auto]
TRC_EOM [Auto]
TRTP_EOM [Auto]
TRRS_S_EOM [Auto]
TRRS_L_EOM [Auto]
TWTR_EOM [Auto]
TWTR_L_EOM [Auto]
TWCL_EOM [Auto]
TWR_EOM [Auto]
TFAW_EOM [Auto]
TRCT_EOM [Auto]
TREFI_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_DD_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SD_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SC_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SCL_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_DD_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SD_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SC_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SCL_EOM [Auto]
TWRRD_EOM [Auto]
TRDWR_EOM [Auto]
TWRRD_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [4]
DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [14]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [28]
Trc [44]
TrrdS [6]
TrrdL [9]
Tfaw [36]
TwtrS [4]
TwtrL [12]
Twr [16]
Trcpage [Auto]
TrdrdScl [2]
TwrwrScl [2]
Trfc [333]
Trfc2 [Auto]
Trfc4 [Auto]
Tcwl [14]
Trtp [8]
Trdwr [8]
Twrrd [3]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [7]
TwrwrDd [7]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [5]
TrdrdDd [5]
Tcke [1]
ProcODT [60 ohm]
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [Auto]
RttWr [Auto]
RttPark [Auto]
MemAddrCmdSetup_SM [Auto]
MemCsOdtSetup_SM [Auto]
MemCkeSetup_SM [Auto]
MemCadBusClkDrvStren_SM [Auto]
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren_SM [Auto]
MemCadBusCsOdtDrvStren_SM [Auto]
MemCadBusCkeDrvStren_SM [Auto]
VTTDDR Voltage [Auto]
VPP_MEM Voltage [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
VDDP Voltage [Auto]
VDDP Standby Voltage [Auto]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]
CPU 3.3v AUX [Auto]
2.5V SB Voltage [Auto]
DRAM R1 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R2 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R3 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R4 Tune [Auto]
PCIE Tune R1 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R2 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R3 [Auto]
PLL Tune R1 [Auto]
PLL reference voltage [Auto]
T Offset [Auto]
Sense MI Skew [Disabled]
Sense MI Offset [Auto]
Promontory presence [Auto]
Clock Amplitude [Auto]
CLDO VDDP voltage [Auto]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Level 2]
CPU Current Capability [140%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Auto]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
Active Frequency Mode [Disabled]
CPU Power Duty Control [T.Probe]
CPU Power Phase Control [Extreme]
CPU Power Thermal Control [120]
VDDSOC Load-line Calibration [Auto]
VDDSOC Current Capability [140%]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Auto]
VDDSOC Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Current Capability [120%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Auto]
DRAM VBoot Voltage [1.35500]
Security Device Support [Enable]
TPM Device Selection [Discrete TPM]
Erase fTPM NV for factory reset [Enabled]
PSS Support [Auto]
NX Mode [Enabled]
SVM Mode [Enabled]
PT XHCI GEN1 [Auto]
PT XHCI GEN2 [Auto]
PT USB Equalization4 [Auto]
PT USB Redriver [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 0 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 1 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 2 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 3 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 4 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 5 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 6 [Auto]
PT PCIE PORT 7 [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 0 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 1 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 2 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 3 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 4 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 5 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 6 Enable [Auto]
PT SATA PORT 7 Enable [Auto]
Onboard PCIE LAN PXE ROM [Enabled]
AMD CRB EHCI Debug port switch [Disabled]
Onboard LED [Disabled]
Hyper kit Mode [Disabled]
SATA Port Enable [Enabled]
SATA Mode [AHCI]
SMART Self Test [Enabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
Hot Plug [Disabled]
ErP Ready [Disabled]
Restore On AC Power Loss [Power Off]
Power On By PCI-E/PCI [Disabled]
Power On By RTC [Disabled]
Super I/O Clock Skew [Auto]
HD Audio Controller [Enabled]
PCIEX4_3 Bandwidth [Auto]
PCIEX16_1 Mode [GEN 3]
PCIEX8_2 Mode [Auto]
PCIEX4_3 Mode [Auto]
M.2 Link Mode [GEN 3]
SB Link Mode [GEN 3]
Asmedia USB 3.1 Controller [Enabled]
When system is in working state [Off]
In sleep, hibernate and soft off states [On]
Intel LAN Controller [Enabled]
Intel LAN OPROM [Disabled]
USB Type C Power Switch for USB3.1_E1 [Auto]
USB Type C Power Switch for USB3.1_EC2 [Auto]
Network Stack [Disabled]
Debug Port Table [Disabled]
Debug Port Table 2 [Disabled]
Device [Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB]
Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
XHCI Hand-off [Enabled]
USB Mass Storage Driver Support [Enabled]
Corsair Voyager SliderX2000A [Auto]
USB3.1_E1 [Auto]
USB3_1 [Enabled]
USB3_2 [Enabled]
USB3_3 [Enabled]
USB3_4 [Enabled]
USB3_5 [Auto]
USB3_6 [Auto]
USB3_7 [Auto]
USB3_8 [Auto]
USB3_9 [Auto]
USB3_10 [Auto]
USB2_11 [Auto]
USB2_12 [Auto]
USB2_13 [Auto]
USB2_14 [Auto]
USB_15 [Auto]
USB_16 [Auto]
CPU Temperature [Monitor]
MotherBoard Temperature [Monitor]
VRM Temperature [Monitor]
PCH Temperature [Monitor]
T_Sensor1 Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Fan Speed [Ignore]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed [Ignore]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed [Ignore]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed [Ignore]
W_PUMP+ Speed [Ignore]
CPU Optional Fan Speed [Ignore]
AIO_PUMP Speed [Ignore]
W_FLOW Speed [Ignore]
W_IN Temperature [Monitor]
W_OUT Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Core Voltage [Monitor]
3.3V Voltage [Monitor]
5V Voltage [Monitor]
12V Voltage [Monitor]
CPU Q-Fan Control [Disabled]
W_PUMP+ Control [Disabled]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [Disabled]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [Disabled]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [Disabled]
OnChip SATA Channel [Auto]
OnChip SATA Type [AHCI]
USB3_1 [Enabled]
USB3_2 [Enabled]
USB3_3 [Enabled]
USB3_4 [Enabled]
IR Config [RX & TX0 Only]
SdForce18 Enable [Disabled]
SD Mode configuration [AMDA]
Uart 0 Enable [Enabled]
Uart 1 Enable [Enabled]
I2C 0 Enable [Enabled]
I2C 1 Enable [Enabled]
I2C 2 Enable [Disabled]
I2C 3 Enable [Disabled]
GPIO Devices Support [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 0 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 1 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 2 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 3 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 4 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 5 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 6 [Auto]
ESATA Port On Port 7 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 0 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 1 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 2 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 3 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 4 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 5 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 6 [Auto]
SATA Power On Port 7 [Auto]
SATA Port 0 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 1 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 2 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 3 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 4 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 5 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 6 MODE [Auto]
SATA Port 7 MODE [Auto]
SATA Hot-Removable Support [Auto]
SATA 6 AHCI Support [Auto]
Int. Clk Differential Spread [Auto]
SATA MAXGEN2 CAP OPTION [Auto]
SATA CLK Mode Option [Auto]
Aggressive Link PM Capability [Auto]
Port Multiplier Capability [Auto]
SATA Ports Auto Clock Control [Auto]
SATA Partial State Capability [Auto]
SATA FIS Based Switching [Auto]
SATA Command Completion Coalescing Support [Auto]
SATA Slumber State Capability [Auto]
SATA MSI Capability Support [Auto]
SATA Target Support 8 Devices [Auto]
Generic Mode [Auto]
SATA AHCI Enclosure [Auto]
SATA SGPIO 0 [Auto]
SATA SGPIO 1 [Disabled]
SATA PHY PLL [Auto]
AC/DC Change Message Delivery [Disabled]
TimerTick Tracking [Auto]
Clock Interrupt Tag [Auto]
EHCI Traffic Handling [Disabled]
Fusion Message C Multi-Core [Disabled]
Fusion Message C State [Disabled]
SPI Read Mode [Auto]
SPI 100MHz Support [Auto]
SPI Normal Speed [Auto]
SPI Fast Read Speed [Auto]
SPI Burst Write [Auto]
I2C 0 D3 Support [Auto]
I2C 1 D3 Support [Auto]
I2C 2 D3 Support [Auto]
I2C 3 D3 Support [Auto]
I2C 4 D3 Support [Auto]
I2C 5 D3 Support [Auto]
UART 0 D3 Support [Auto]
UART 1 D3 Support [Auto]
UART 2 D3 Support [Auto]
UART 3 D3 Support [Auto]
SATA D3 Support [Auto]
EHCI D3 Support [Auto]
XHCI D3 Support [Auto]
SD D3 Support [Auto]
S0I3 [Auto]
Chipset Power Saving Features [Enabled]
SB Clock Spread Spectrum [Auto]
SB Clock Spread Spectrum Option [-0.375%]
HPET In SB [Auto]
MsiDis in HPET [Auto]
_OSC For PCI0 [Auto]
USB Phy Power Down [Auto]
PCIB_CLK_Stop Override [0]
USB MSI Option [Auto]
LPC MSI Option [Auto]
PCIBridge MSI Option [Auto]
AB MSI Option [Auto]
SB C1E Support [Auto]
SB Hardware Reduced Support [Auto]
GPP Serial Debug Bus Enable [Auto]
PSPP Policy [Auto]
Memory Clock [Auto]
Bank Interleaving [Enabled]
Channel Interleaving [Enabled]
Memory Clear [Disabled]
Fast Boot [Enabled]
Next Boot after AC Power Loss [Normal Boot]
Boot Logo Display [Auto]
POST Delay Time [0 sec]
Boot up NumLock State [Enabled]
Wait For 'F1' If Error [Enabled]
Option ROM Messages [Enabled]
Interrupt 19 Capture [Disabled]
Setup Mode [Advanced Mode]
Launch CSM [Enabled]
Boot Device Control [UEFI and Legacy OPROM]
Boot from Network Devices [Legacy only]
Boot from Storage Devices [Legacy only]
Boot from PCI-E Expansion Devices [Legacy only]
OS Type [Other OS]
Setup Animator [Disabled]
Load from Profile [1]
Profile Name [4040_3232]
Save to Profile [1]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]
VDDSOC Voltage [Auto]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]
BCLK Frequency [Auto]
CPU Ratio [Auto]
Bus Interface [PCIEX16/X8_1]

 

[keenan]

@keenan

Here's a dump of my BIOS/UEFI settings (ASUS CHVI).

Holy Moly Rossi~, I sure hope you didn't type all of that..

Might be easier to post a screenshot of your RTC settings.

Anywho, I tried what you said regarding TRC, but anything below 50 results in a no post and no recoved either so I have to do a full CMOS reset.

It's running at 3466Mhz 14-17-14-10-21-50(changed from 56) now, so I guess that is it in regards to the primaries.

Quick question, is it better to have GearDownMode enabled or disabled?

 

[Yaayuh!]

Holy Moly Rossi~, I sure hope you didn't type all of that..

I tried what you said regarding TRC, but anything below 50 results in a no post and no recoved either so I have to do a full CMOS reset.

It's running at 3466Mhz 14-17-14-10-21-50(changed from 56) now, so I guess that is it in regards to the primaries.

Quick question, is it better to have GearDownMode enabled or disabled?

LOL no, there's an export function, thankfully

Geardown disabled.
Geardown essential gives you 1.5T CAS.

 

[keenan]

LOL no, there's an export function, thankfully

Geardown disabled.
Geardown essential gives 1.5T on CAS.

Ok, so it's better to have Geardown disabled and manually set Command Rate to 1T? Better latency?

 

[Yaayuh!]

Ok, so it's better to have Geardown disabled and manually set Command Rate to 1T? Better latency?

Yep

 

[keenan]

Yep

I'm guessing 1T instead of 1.5T would unleash havok on my current timings?

 

[Yaayuh!]

I'm guessing 1T instead of 1.5T would unleash havok on my current timings?

Potentially could be unstable immediately.

Timings always take time to pin down and get the most out, that’s why it’s so fun.

 

[keenan]

that’s why it’s so fun.

Ah yes, fun..

 

[pokerking]

Ordered a Ryzen 3 prebuilt system with a 1050ti for £690.

Cancelled this a went with the below for the same price.

Ryzen 7 2700
MSI B450M Mortar
1660Ti
8GB Ram
240GB SSD
CoolerMaster 650W Modular.

Just need to get a case and more storage now

Really looking forward to AMD. Not had a PC system since an original i7 920 over 10 years ago.