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Aretak · 15 Apr 2017 at 12:21

nkata said:
Two official updates but there are others http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread

I'm aware, but I'd expect not to have to download a beta BIOS from a forum post, were I paying all that money. It doesn't make sense to have so many updates for the cheap B350 boards available on their site, yet none for the Crosshair. Other than them being much more careful with the boards that it'd cost them more to replace, and not wanting to start bricking them... again.

gavinh87 · 15 Apr 2017 at 12:43

Aretak said:
I'm aware, but I'd expect not to have to download a beta BIOS from a forum post, were I paying all that money. It doesn't make sense to have so many updates for the cheap B350 boards available on their site, yet none for the Crosshair. Other than them being much more careful with the boards that it'd cost them more to replace, and not wanting to start bricking them... again.

Put those claws away

Hagar · 15 Apr 2017 at 13:31

Aretak said:
I'm aware, but I'd expect not to have to download a beta BIOS from a forum post, were I paying all that money. It doesn't make sense to have so many updates for the cheap B350 boards available on their site, yet none for the Crosshair. Other than them being much more careful with the boards that it'd cost them more to replace, and not wanting to start bricking them... again.

Agreed (somewhat) but the author Elmor is a respected tech and if ASUS can not keep up with their web page it's not so good. However the board is well supported by the enthusiast community with plenty of technical information and data which ordinarily would not be on the manufacturers page anyway. Still worth the premium IMO. I have flashed to 1001, 1002, 0079 and 0083 thus far in a month.

Deleted member 66701 · 15 Apr 2017 at 14:53

How do you know what the latest bios is? The numbering scheme makes no sense.

gavinh87 · 15 Apr 2017 at 15:11

amigafan2003 said:
How do you know what the latest bios is? The numbering scheme makes no sense.

0083 is the latest but is a 2T bios. 0079 is the best for me so far.

Hagar · 15 Apr 2017 at 15:38

amigafan2003 said:
How do you know what the latest bios is? The numbering scheme makes no sense.

I'm assuming that bios' staring 10xx or 20xx will be official ASUS bios. Others are tech bios' developed but not officially approved.

As we are posting on a tech forum, we should not be too afeared to give them all a try. 0083 gives my 2T ram a chance.

Dicehunter · 15 Apr 2017 at 17:44

Lord_ZED said:
That official or beta bios??

Didn't know there were any beta bios' out :confused:

JBod · 16 Apr 2017 at 07:36

I imagine the reasoning is very simple. It is cheaper for them to RMA bricked B350 motherboards than X370, so test on the B350 users first.

Hagar · 16 Apr 2017 at 13:42

JBod said:
I imagine the reasoning is very simple. It is cheaper for them to RMA bricked B350 motherboards than X370, so test on the B350 users first.

It probably isn't. As they have been paid for the x370 more than the B350, the cost of RMA is basically the same for both. As for bricked boards, I have not seen much about that since the early Crosshair bios which could under certain condfitions.

I expect however the less complex boards have fewer instructions and simpler coding. Each change may only be adding one or two functions.

laddy · 16 Apr 2017 at 15:55

have same cpu and m/board AMD ' Ryzen R7 1700 Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3' and get 3.7 easily on stock vt, using amd tool i get 3.9 at 1.375 temp 60 with Noctua NH-U12S

could someone explain to me more about the cpu vt for manual oc

DYNAMIC V CORE (DVD) = AUTO - MANUAL - and up to - or + 0.300

DYNAMIC V CORE SOC (DVID) = AUTO - MANUAL - and up to - or + 0.300

laddy · 16 Apr 2017 at 17:16

i think i have worked it,its like adding or taking from main vt = undervolting and oc

Safetytrousers · 16 Apr 2017 at 17:48

gavinh87 said:
0083 is the latest but is a 2T bios. 0079 is the best for me so far.

I'm using 0082 and that is working very well for me. The BIOS'es posted by Elmor are trustworthy. The latest BIOSes I think are definitely improved over 1002.
0083 was made available at the same time as 0081 and 0082, it is not the single latest.

Test BIOS 0081
Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm

Test BIOS 0082
Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers...

Test BIOS 0083
Same as 0081 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio.

gavinh87 · 16 Apr 2017 at 18:22

Safetytrousers said:
I'm using 0082 and that is working very well for me. The BIOS'es posted by Elmor are trustworthy. The latest BIOSes I think are definitely improved over 1002.
0083 was made available at the same time as 0081 and 0082, it is not the single latest.

Test BIOS 0081
Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm

Test BIOS 0082
Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers...

Test BIOS 0083
Same as 0081 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio.

Currently on 0082 as of this morning. Nothing to report. Its been the same for me since 0902.

Smffy · 16 Apr 2017 at 19:15

In a moment of madness I've ordered an 1800x and Asus Hero to play with until x299 later in the year... So yeah some how I've joined the club

roysters · 16 Apr 2017 at 20:16

im pretty much doing the same, then i realised i need a new GPU for it too... ;/

Smffy · 16 Apr 2017 at 21:03

roysters said:
im pretty much doing the same, then i realised i need a new GPU for it too... ;/

good prices on some right now though... I've already got some pretty strong clocked 1080s in my loop, semi tempted by updating but I might skip this year and wait for the next.

roysters · 16 Apr 2017 at 23:46

Smffy said:
good prices on some right now though... I've already got some pretty strong clocked 1080s in my loop, semi tempted by updating but I might skip this year and wait for the next.

So what did you order so far? problem is i have a 1080ti FE under water in one rig. I just wanted the ryzen build to be on air for now. So i either buy another GPU or take the loop apart... effort!

Dicehunter · 17 Apr 2017 at 05:37

So the 1800X has already gone down £50, Mustn't be selling well which is odd as this chip is bleeding awesome !!!

On a different note, Is 4025MHz at 1.40V an ok result on an 1800X ? The voltage is my main concern, Is it dangerously high or an ok 24/7 voltage ?

Smffy · 17 Apr 2017 at 07:22

roysters said:
So what did you order so far? problem is i have a 1080ti FE under water in one rig. I just wanted the ryzen build to be on air for now. So i either buy another GPU or take the loop apart... effort!

Well I just ordered the 1800x and Hero board... already got the world of water cooling so trust me I'm not in for an easy swap. Namely making more custom copper if the positioning is off on the block with the AM4 bracket. Looks to be slightly different but I could be lucky!

Dicehunter said:
So the 1800X has already gone down £50, Mustn't be selling well which is odd as this chip is bleeding awesome !!!

On a different note, Is 4025MHz at 1.40V an ok result on an 1800X ? The voltage is my main concern, Is it dangerously high or an ok 24/7 voltage ?

The price drop is good, doubt they are selling many as it's technically the same chip for £100 more. Can live with that though for the better chance of clocking. Pretty sure up to 1.45v is completely fine on these...

LtMatt · 17 Apr 2017 at 07:58

Dicehunter said:
So the 1800X has already gone down £50, Mustn't be selling well which is odd as this chip is bleeding awesome !!!

On a different note, Is 4025MHz at 1.40V an ok result on an 1800X ? The voltage is my main concern, Is it dangerously high or an ok 24/7 voltage ?

That's good mate, not golden but decent. I believe mine is stable around 1.37v so not far off at the same clocks.

Voltage is fine up to 1.55v if you have robust water cooling solution. Otherwise try to stay at 1.45v or lower.

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