*** Official Ryzen Threadripper Owners Thread ***

[Crimsonmars]

Has anyone played with MLC/TLC SSD´s, I see erratic performance from TLC, they just ain´t worth it, in my system i have an array on 3 sata drives , 1 MLC 2 TLC, the MLC one is the oldest and has minimal degradation, the toshiba is the newest and is already at 91% life left after 1month of use, and i see it barely keeping up with the rest, while writing i see TR200 at 60-100% use with high latency, OCZ at 1-2% and the kingstone at 1-20%(kingstone is also TLC).
Dunno if al TLC struggel like this or I have really bad ones....
The kingstone is at 93% after 1yr of light usage, and OCZ is at 95% after 5years of heavy usage.....

 

[Matrix]

Hello all


I own atm a Ryzen 1700X with a taichi board and Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC3-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit.

Mostly the pc is used for VM's not really gaming or anything but find i need some more power with my vm's . So have been looking at buying a thread ripper like the 1950 and possibly another taichi board .

A couple of concern's i have is could i still use my RAM and would it make a huge difference not using quad Ram ?

I read on the web that the vrm power delivery on the Taichi not as good as new gen ones ?

Also i use AIO coolermaster master liquid 120mm could i still use this ?


Thank you.

 

[sandys]

What power do you need, where are your VMs lacking, is it cores, or clockspeed? if it is cores 1950x will sort it, if its clockspeed more cores won't help, do you need more memory bandwidth or more memory, an extra 2 sticks on TR will get you both.

 

[Crimsonmars]

Hello, it's not quite about memmory, i had it single vs dual although on first hand i did no notice anything there is a hudge difference, the connection between ccx is related to memory speed, running single channel reduces communication of half cores to the ram.
The design is 2 chiplets each comprised of 2ccx, while chip to chip the bandwith is 50, the second half of the chip(one ccx complex-4cores) talk to the other half with infinity which is ramfrecuency multiplied by a factor of 2.

Now it depends on the vm load and what you are doing with it....

 

[ketma]

Hello all


I own atm a Ryzen 1700X with a taichi board and Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC3-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit.

Mostly the pc is used for VM's not really gaming or anything but find i need some more power with my vm's . So have been looking at buying a thread ripper like the 1950 and possibly another taichi board .

A couple of concern's i have is could i still use my RAM and would it make a huge difference not using quad Ram ?

I read on the web that the vrm power delivery on the Taichi not as good as new gen ones ?

Also i use AIO coolermaster master liquid 120mm could i still use this ?

The VRM's were up-rated on the new gen boards (mainly) to accommodate the WX series processors. I'm using a 2950X on a 1st gen board and its working fine, so a 1950X will have no trouble.

I doubt the ram not being in quad channel would make a *huge* difference to what you are using it for, but performance is optimal with Threadripper being configured as quad channel.

As for your cooler, check the specs and see if its certified for use with TR.

 

[Matrix]

What power do you need, where are your VMs lacking, is it cores, or clockspeed? if it is cores 1950x will sort it, if its clockspeed more cores won't help, do you need more memory bandwidth or more memory, an extra 2 sticks on TR will get you both.

Thanks for your reply it's cores really as i have machines running 2/2 and some 1/1 I'd need over 20 machines running and some time. So my main 1700X hits 100% with the allocation I give the VM's, Hence the reason looking at the 1950 for more cores and threads

Hello, it's not quite about memmory, i had it single vs dual although on first hand i did no notice anything there is a hudge difference, the connection between ccx is related to memory speed, running single channel reduces communication of half cores to the ram.
The design is 2 chiplets each comprised of 2ccx, while chip to chip the bandwith is 50, the second half of the chip(one ccx complex-4cores) talk to the other half with infinity which is ramfrecuency multiplied by a factor of 2.

Now it depends on the vm load and what you are doing with it....

Thanks for your reply.
The Vm's are for general browsing the web nothing more but i can't have them all locking up when i have them running . I allocate 2 gig each to my machines have 48 Gig ram in my host ( posted 32 in my post but it's 48 now )

The VRM's were up-rated on the new gen boards (mainly) to accommodate the WX series processors. I'm using a 2950X on a 1st gen board and its working fine, so a 1950X will have no trouble.

I doubt the ram not being in quad channel would make a *huge* difference to what you are using it for, but performance is optimal with Threadripper being configured as quad channel.

As for your cooler, check the specs and see if its certified for use with TR.

Thanks for your reply.

The Vm's are for general browsing the web nothing more but i can't have them all locking up when i have them running . I allocate 2 gig each to my machines have 48 Gig ram in my host ( posted 32 in my post but it's 48 now ) To be fair not really wanting to spend £600+ on Ram if i'm honest would rather stick with what i have now if it will run ok ?

 

[sandys]

Sounds like memory bandwidth is not a key driver, you should be fine Dual channel for your usage but I might question why if they are on all the time you wouldn't build a headless box, you are looking at ~ £600 for and old gen TR chip and board vs buying a cheap b450 and another 8 core Ryzen chip at less than half the price to run some VMs standalone.

 

[Matrix]

Sounds like memory bandwidth is not a key driver, you should be fine Dual channel for your usage but I might question why if they are on all the time you wouldn't build a headless box, you are looking at ~ £600 for and old gen TR chip and board vs buying a cheap b450 and another 8 core Ryzen chip at less than half the price to run some VMs standalone.

Just think time I’ve built it power supply and everything it won’t work out much cheaper overall will it . Plus Be easier running it off one rig for me there not in all the time but I do use them slot evenings and weekends .

Is the old gen TR not worth looking at now a days then ?

If I was to go for a New TR chip would the memory still work ?

Thank you .

 

[sandys]

Old gen chip is just fine, I was just mentioning it as they are cheaper than new gen and that is how you would get cost down of TR build to £600, though actually that was for 1920x, 1950x is £500 for chip alone, then £300 for board.

With cheaper headless build you wouldn't be taking up resources on it for your personal use, plus you will still have current machine, if you are selling old parts to recoup cost the argument is redundant, I read buying another board as being in addition to what you have rather than replace.

Newer TR or Newer Ryzen will give you higher clock speeds with more cores active but that doesn't make old chips redundant.

Your memory should work on either fine.

 

[Matrix]

Old gen chip is just fine, I was just mentioning it as they are cheaper than new gen and that is how you would get cost down of TR build to £600, though actually that was for 1920x, 1950x is £500 for chip alone, then £300 for board.

With cheaper headless build you wouldn't be taking up resources on it for your personal use, plus you will still have current machine, if you are selling old parts to recoup cost the argument is redundant, I read buying another board as being in addition to what you have rather than replace.

Newer TR or Newer Ryzen will give you higher clock speeds with more cores active but that doesn't make old chips redundant.

Your memory should work on either fine.

Thanks again for your time and reply , Yes i'm sorry i will be trying to sell the mobo , 1700x and even the AIO ( don't think that fit the TR looking at it ) Not to sure how much they'd be worth though .?

I'd be very happy if my memory worked fine as looking around i did find 64gig LPX DDR4 2666MHz for £485 which i don't really want to be paying if mine would do the job i needed .

Thanks

 

[Matrix]

Right sorry more questions sorry to be a pain , I have someone that might be wanting to buy my mobo , cpu , AIO , ram

So If i was to go for the upgrade is there much difference between the 1950 X and the 2950X other than 1950 last years model ?

Would the Asrock Taichi be good enough to run these cpu's and 64 gig of ram?

Then Ram running would either of these be any major difference ?

DDR4 Quad Channel - (2666MHz) 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black PC4-21300 (2666), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-35, XMP 2.0, 1.2V
Or
DDR4 Quad Channel - (2800MHz +) 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-24000 (3000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-20-20-38, XMP 2.0, 1.35V


Thank you again .

 

[SupraWez]

If buying new memory and motherboard I would look at memory that is certified for the MB you are choosing, you can get the list from the manufacturers website.

The 1950X is still a great CPU but if you can stretch to the 2950X then I would certainly get the newer release, has higher clock speeds and better memory support.

 

[Matrix]

If buying new memory and motherboard I would look at memory that is certified for the MB you are choosing, you can get the list from the manufacturers website.

The 1950X is still a great CPU but if you can stretch to the 2950X then I would certainly get the newer release, has higher clock speeds and better memory support.

Checked on the Asrock site for memory the model number for Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB DDR4 3000 MHz RAM/Memory Kit 4x 16GB 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-24000 (3000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-20-20-38, XMP 2.0, 1.35V is Manufacturer code: CMK64GX4M4D3000C16

On the site Asrock site it has this :-

Assume that works then ?

Thanks

 

[ketma]

^ I'd say so...yes. Since Ryzen and Threadripper have been released the AGESA code within the BIOS has matured to reduce memory incompatibilities. If you have the latest BIOS version then you should be fine.

 

[Crimsonmars]

I am rocking 1920 with hynix 3200, no issues... I put it to 3333, it can do much more but i do not want to overstress the controller, tried 3600 with cl14 and it works stable with default xmp voltage

 

[Space Monkey]

I am rocking 1920 with hynix 3200, no issues... I put it to 3333, it can do much more but i do not want to overstress the controller, tried 3600 with cl14 and it works stable with default xmp voltage

How many sticks of RAM and how much in GBs?

 

[Crimsonmars]

Just 4x8gb of corsair, waiting for single row 32gb sticks

 

[Crimsonmars]

Feneageling with tripple display, but it took a turn to the worse since last i tried it, my main is 1444p 21x9 and eyefinity, although i put it to 1080p, it takes the full resolution but downscales it to 1080p, hahhah, it creates a wierd res with black bars, like watching a 21x9 on a 16x9 screen

 

[Crimsonmars]

Thanks for your reply it's cores really as i have machines running 2/2 and some 1/1 I'd need over 20 machines running and some time. So my main 1700X hits 100% with the allocation I give the VM's, Hence the reason looking at the 1950 for more cores and threads



Thanks for your reply.
The Vm's are for general browsing the web nothing more but i can't have them all locking up when i have them running . I allocate 2 gig each to my machines have 48 Gig ram in my host ( posted 32 in my post but it's 48 now )



Thanks for your reply.

The Vm's are for general browsing the web nothing more but i can't have them all locking up when i have them running . I allocate 2 gig each to my machines have 48 Gig ram in my host ( posted 32 in my post but it's 48 now ) To be fair not really wanting to spend £600+ on Ram if i'm honest would rather stick with what i have now if it will run ok ?

See no issue whatever way you go then, you'll not notice any difference

 

[Crimsonmars]

The VRM's were up-rated on the new gen boards (mainly) to accommodate the WX series processors. I'm using a 2950X on a 1st gen board and its working fine, so a 1950X will have no trouble.

I doubt the ram not being in quad channel would make a *huge* difference to what you are using it for, but performance is optimal with Threadripper being configured as quad channel.

As for your cooler, check the specs and see if its certified for use with TR.

I have atm the arctic frezer, will move to silver arrow, but so far arctic is doing a pretty good job see no temps above 60, but then again I'm moving 400+ cfm throgh the case.... Will move to 8bionix as well...