*** Official SONOS Thread ***

Bluecube said:
Quick question - would I benefit from a second Sonos 1?
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A pair of Play 1's in stereo pair is quite good for a small to medium sized room.

snow patrol said:
FINALLY!!!! I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS :D :D :D

Sonos is finally opening its great speakers to Spotify's app

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/8/30/12709368/sonos-spotify-app-support-announced

Finally i'll be able to use the spotify app to cast to my sonos system without relying on the rubbish sonos inbuilt spotify tab (which is really crud and doesn't even let you search / list your music by artists). I've tried a few 'hacks' to get around this but none of them seem to work properly and don't satisfy me at all.

I seriously think i'd have ended up selling my sonos system were it not for reading that link :)
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That would actually make me look at moving from Deezer to Spotify. I love the app on iOS, just not the controls within the SONOS app itself.
 
The Spotify news is great, just waiting for Amazon Echo support now. 2017 apparently.

The Play 1s can be a bit boomy depending on the surface (I put some of mine on those little Flexson stands which helped) but the Trueplay tech and EQ takes care of it nicely.

I've got a stereo pair of play 5s in one room and Trueplay made the sounds go from 'ok' to 'pretty darn good' which isn't bad considering I've got them on the floor as I was ordered to hide them behind sofas!

I have quite a few Sonos speakers so far, and for the troll above, I've got the Connect which links to my 'proper' hifi (or will when I get it setup, eventually....) :)

The Playbar and Sub are brilliant. I have to have the Sub turned down 10% or it shakes the windows.

I don't really see the point of the Play 3. Two Play 1s are better. Although the Play 3 sound quality is better, they're a bit too big to have 2 of discreetly (wife-friendly).

The app can be a bit clunky and not always respond to grouping requests, but that's mainly when I'm in an area with poor wifi. I guess it takes a few seconds to do big regroups.

I've not quite got the mesh up to scratch yet, so there are a few cables around the place to make sure everything stays connected. On the plus side it plays nicely with Sky Q.

I also wish the app would let group configs be saved for later use ('downstairs','upstairs','outside','party', etc) or stop a room from being easily overridden.

The best feature is the search which searches across Spotify/Amazon/Apple/my music all in one.

I was at a hotel recently which had a Sonos system installed (Sonos amp with ceiling speakers). Quite a neat solution as I expect 'traditional' commercial multi-room setups are hugely overpriced.

I'm holding off buying more in the hope that they might release something new, eg a play 1 gen 2, or an outdoor speaker, but they seem to be focussing more on software integrations now...
 
I can't understand why Sonos haven't pushed their technology more, there's a few really obvious products that would be very interesting:

1. Updated playbar, the old one is really behind the curve.
2. Proper single box ceiling speakers
3. Portable speaker with decent battery life
 
Their connect box is eye-wateringly expensive. I can't see why it needs to be such a large premium over a speaker that presumably contains the same components (minus the line in), plus a speaker.

My ideal Sonos setup would be to simply have it as an input to a home theatre system, and sitting on the record out of the receiver in case you want to keep listening to a sports event while you go and take a dump or whatever. The Playbar and sub money could go a long way on other kit. I see the value in the self-contained speakers though.
 
snow patrol said:
FINALLY!!!! I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS :D :D :D

Sonos is finally opening its great speakers to Spotify's app

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/8/30/12709368/sonos-spotify-app-support-announced

Finally i'll be able to use the spotify app to cast to my sonos system without relying on the rubbish sonos inbuilt spotify tab (which is really crud and doesn't even let you search / list your music by artists). I've tried a few 'hacks' to get around this but none of them seem to work properly and don't satisfy me at all.

I seriously think i'd have ended up selling my sonos system were it not for reading that link :)
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Finally
 
Caged said:
Their connect box is eye-wateringly expensive. I can't see why it needs to be such a large premium over a speaker that presumably contains the same components (minus the line in), plus a speaker.

My ideal Sonos setup would be to simply have it as an input to a home theatre system, and sitting on the record out of the receiver in case you want to keep listening to a sports event while you go and take a dump or whatever. The Playbar and sub money could go a long way on other kit. I see the value in the self-contained speakers though.
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I don't think it's expensive when you look at the cost of other DAC boxes plus the fact the Sonos one integrates into the system perfectly.

A lot of SQ boffins have looked into the connect and commend it on the components used and the SQ is produces.

Of course you can get the innards upgraded but I've read it's not really worth it.
 
Caged said:
Their connect box is eye-wateringly expensive. I can't see why it needs to be such a large premium over a speaker that presumably contains the same components (minus the line in), plus a speaker.
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I don't either....I got mine used for around £200 and even then it was a bit pricey. It does contain a variety of outputs plus the ethernet ports though, and of course runs the software like the others. I expect they apportion most value to the software which is why they keep all the hardware prices high....

I've also got a connect:amp which I bought new and is thus even more overpriced but I didn't have any other option (ceiling speakers). The subwoofer out is a nice touch though which I've yet to try out since it's used for the kitchen!
 
After a lot of testing and consideration I went for Denon's HEOS 3. I liked the Sonos range but thought the play 1's where a little too weak to fill a decent sized room and the sound seemed a little artificial. I thought he HEOS sounded a little better to my ears but the sonos app is much better. The lack of an aux port on the sonos sealed it. Price wise I got my HEOS 3 for £125, which is about £100 cheaper than a play 3. Just putting I through its paces at the moment and I'm very happy with it.

Would say though that I think any of the ranges from the Samsung R series , Bose Sound Touch, Denon HEOS or sonos Play are all very capable.
 
With this kind of system the quality of the software and reliability of the connectivity is at least as important as the ultimate sound quality. I have little faith in the ability or desire for companies like Samsung and Denon to ensure that their software receives timely updates to support newer mobile device operating systems and streaming music services.
 
Caged said:
With this kind of system the quality of the software and reliability of the connectivity is at least as important as the ultimate sound quality. I have little faith in the ability or desire for companies like Samsung and Denon to ensure that their software receives timely updates to support newer mobile device operating systems and streaming music services.
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That's a good point, for me whether it's sonos or Samsung or whoever there always needs to be a cheap plan b, for denon it's a Bluetooth bridge which you can pick up for £20 (as it has an aux port). I was worried if Sonos went bust I'd be left with a useless unit.
 
I'd be more worried the other way all the other companies can bow out of the multi room market as its not their core business, but Sonos can't, if they don't keep up they're done for.

Been burnt by Samsung already, bought into their NX camera system and they bailed out the market leaving me with an incomplete set of lenses and no decent upgrade path.
 
Minstadave said:
I'd be more worried the other way all the other companies can bow out of the multi room market as its not their core business, but Sonos can't, if they don't keep up they're done for.

Been burnt by Samsung already, bought into their NX camera system and they bailed out the market leaving me with an incomplete set of lenses and no decent upgrade path.
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Like I say no matter what the company there's always a possibility of them exiting the market hence the absolute importance to ensure there's not just one way to use the device. It's akin to buying a PC then only being able to use it if the manufacturer stays in business and I think we've all seen perceived leaders who only focus on the PC market going **** up. Chatting through it today with some folks, I believe only the sonos 5 can be used without their app?

Not trying to have a go at peeps who have bought sonos kit because I think it's excellent, but tomorrow if it went **** up I think there'd be a lot of angry sonos customers staring at a very expensive paper weight.

We have standards in this space too, there's no reason not to include Bluetooth streaming for example, then even if the worst happens your customers are left with a useful device?
 
Sonos probably won't every use Bluetooth due to the inherent SQ issues with it.

Had my Play 5 in a field this weekend at JAE, it did very well for its size although I'm convinced that the volume via line in isn't as high as it is via wireless.
 
Dooksy said:
Sonos probably won't every use Bluetooth due to the inherent SQ issues with it.

Had my Play 5 in a field this weekend at JAE, it did very well for its size although I'm convinced that the volume via line in isn't as high as it is via wireless.
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Did you change the gain in the settings? Let's you tweak the volume a fair bit.
 
Minstadave said:
Did you change the gain in the settings? Let's you tweak the volume a fair bit.
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It wasn't on any kind of app as there wasn't wireless in the field. I just had a hotspot on my phone and my Surface connected with a audio jack lead and used Spotify.

I know I could have probably joined the speaker to my phones wireless network but I didn't bother.
 
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