** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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As mentioned, its a business and you cant suddenly say that no player can cost more than £20 million. If they are paying more than that it is because they are making money from competitions, advertising, merchandise and tv rights. Who would take all the money if they didnt spend much on players ?

Indeed, I understand how it works and don't have too much ill-feeling to it really. It's not my money that's being wasted and it probably adds to the excitement of most football fans. Deep down though I feel that it's all a bit ridiculous
 
Yes it is.

Dont get me wrong, it doesnt mean everyone is now worth astronomical amounts of money, but the market has shifted quite significantly due to the fact there are now more teams with money to spend wanting to sign top players. Personally I would say Fabregas for £40m would be a bargain.


This wont be the case in a couple years, City and chelsea simply wont be able to spend that kind of money any more.
 
Source is a little dodgy but still nice to be linked with some good keepers:

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is preparing to make a big money move for Lyon keeper Hugo Lloris. The 23-year-old has been voted best keeper in France for the last two seasons.
Full story: caughtoffside.com

Not heard of this guy though

Wenger is also monitoring Palermo goalkeeper Salvatore Sirigu. The 23-year-old Italian is also being watched by Inter Milan but Arsenal have the advantage because they can offer him first team football.
Full story: footylatest.com
 
Yes it is.

Dont get me wrong, it doesnt mean everyone is now worth astronomical amounts of money, but the market has shifted quite significantly due to the fact there are now more teams with money to spend wanting to sign top players. Personally I would say Fabregas for £40m would be a bargain.

Firstly no, in the 90's Lazio spent 237MILLION in the space of a few years under Sven, they spent big money on big players. Real have been spending 40mil + on players for a DECADE.

Its not new, you're simply not remember, 3-4 teams buying a few 50mil players does NOT make everyone more expensive, it has happened for well over a decade and the prices aren't going to change this year because 3-4 more big money transfers will go through.

City have spent a large portion of what they will spend, they just spent £11million on a new CB, not £45million. If they get another £30mil striker it will be while selling one.

These numbers are not new and they most certainly do NOT make Milner worth more than he's worth, which is 10mil at best(though he'd probably go for more because people are stupid).

People seem to have not noticed that Chelsea arent' spending big anymore and are cutting big wage players rather than give them big wage increases and that will continue.

The best clubs in the world spend big, for a few seasons then calm down massively. Chelsea went from 200million a year to Anelka for a BUDGET 16mil, and Ivanovic who has turned out to be one of their best buys in years and best value buys. Sorry but if Chelsea spending 200million over a couple years pushes EVERYONES value up, why were Anelka and Ivanovic so cheap, how did Shay Given go for £5mil, when he's actually worth significantly more than that.

Rubbish, history has shown big spends come and go, players are worth what players are worth and massive stars are worth more in commercial rights and tournement winnings.

Whoever said tourny money isn't that big, is stupid. the CL is 25mil, and a run from top to bottom, all gates and winnings at every level is estimated to be worth close to 100mil, I can't remember what the league titles get in various countries, but its not nothing and also DRAMATICALLY increases what clubs can charge for shirt/stadium sponsorship and in stadium ad's.

Ronaldo is actually worth 80million, if they manage to win the title next season and they wouldn't have won it without him, thats 10million in the bank, if they go all the way to the CL final next year and couldn't do it without him, that might be 30-40million extra in the bank purely because of Ronaldo.

IN terms of sponsorship, media coverage, shirt sales he's worth way more than his transfer fee.

Its pretty simple, the only time transfers seem to go up insanely, is when bad managers overestimate how good a player is and massively overpay for them, like, Adebayor. He isn't a 10million pound striker thats increased in value to 30million as will everyone else who was worth 10million. He's a 10million pound player who the manager THINKS is as good as a 30million pound player, those are two very different things.

If Milner goes for 28mil, its not because he's worth that, or all 10million pound wingers are suddenly worth 20(+ 8mil for being english) its simply managers over estimating how good he is.


Source is a little dodgy but still nice to be linked with some good keepers:

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is preparing to make a big money move for Lyon keeper Hugo Lloris. The 23-year-old has been voted best keeper in France for the last two seasons.
Full story: caughtoffside.com

Not heard of this guy though

Wenger is also monitoring Palermo goalkeeper Salvatore Sirigu. The 23-year-old Italian is also being watched by Inter Milan but Arsenal have the advantage because they can offer him first team football.
Full story: footylatest.com

Lloris is supposed to be very good, he was completely uninspiring yesterday in the France game, he fumbled the ball more than once in simple situations and really wasnt' good throughout. Infact his fumbles and dropping of the ball in simple situations rather emulated Almunia when he's having a bad game. I haven't seen much of him but Lloris looked entirely unimpressive for France, hopefully he'll show that he's much better in the next couple games.
 
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Arsenal have released French defender William Gallas after failing to reach an agreement over a new contract.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Well thats two CB's gone now in Gallas and Senderos. Not looking good for our defence now. Hopefully Wenger has a plan :(
 
Arsenal have released French defender William Gallas after failing to reach an agreement over a new contract.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Well thats two CB's gone now in Gallas and Senderos. Not looking good for our defence now. Hopefully Wenger has a plan :(

2-5-3

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Is that really the case though?

How many teams in the premiership can afford to spend 30m on one player? I'd wager it's 3 at best, how many top teams in Europe could afford 30m for 1 player? Real & Barca of course but not sure the likes of Inter or Bayern would

So in truth selling clubs need to wrap their head around the fact that just because a club like Madrid spent 80m on Ronaldo that doesn't mean every top player is worth similar

If Fabregas goes for 40m and he's one of the best midfielders in the world then to suggest that Milner is only 10m away from being as good is a joke

Actually I would expect quite a few EPL teams to be able to (whether they will or not is another matter)

Most obviously - Chelsea and City

Less obviously - (due to finances) Man Utd still could if "value" was present, Spurs could (amazingly well run financially - even if they are terrible to negotiate with lol). It may well indirectly smash their wage structure which is why the latter probably wouldnt , but undoubtedly they could if needed.

Liverpool could (with a good world cup Torres could go for £50m+, Masch? etc - if all the money is going back into the team - £30m for a striker would be possible) - that value of player being attracted to the team in this situation is another thing entirely however (somthing Utd also have to consider)

Fab will only go to Barca - so no bidding war is likely, and even so it doesnt look likely Baca would pay enough for Arsenal to pay that much for one player, whether they could / would - knowing AW I doubt it, but surely they could even with £30m paid for Fab (and they would probably get more like £40m)

edit - I only mention strikers as they seem to go for the most money 9 times out of 10, I know Kaka and further back some other AM's have gone for big money (Ronny was a bit of both as well as being a decent winger lol) but majority of the time it seems to be strikers that are highly priced
 
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SSN reporting that Arsenal have offered £135k a week to J Cole:eek:...hoping that its true.

Also Daily fail currently saying Wenger has £30 mill to spend plus anything else if Fabregas goes to Barca this yr. Phil Jagielka, Schwarzer and Pienaar all being linked to Arsenal for possible signings this summer.
 
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SSN reporting that Arsenal have offered £135k a week to J Cole:eek:...hoping that its true.

I will be amazed if that is true.

Also Daily fail currently saying Wenger has £30 mill to spend plus anything else if Fabregas goes to Barca this yr. Phil Jagielka, Schwarzer and Pienaar all being linked to Arsenal for possible signings this summer.

Arsenal continue their march backwards...
 
phil jagielka is one of the best cb and most consistant cb in the league, schwazer is a very good and reliable keeper, and im sure pienaar was one of the most productive midfielders last season
 
as for robinho, his position is winger/foward. after messi and ronaldo he is the best in that position when on form. who else is better?
 
LOL well its from the daily fail so unless thats become the gospel for all thing transfer wise then id take it with a pinch of salt.

Those 3 certainly arent terrible..decent players and maybe Wenger can get the best out of them. Its just nice to see Arsenal being linked with some half decent players for a change.

And if anyone knows anything about Arsenal and Wenger...hes loathed to splash £30odd mill on a player...i cant remember if hes ever spent that much on a player or even £20mill at a push.
 
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