** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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He'll take Hangeland most likely. Hodgson would only take the job if he knew there was money available. Most likely through sales of Torres/Mascherano, even before he gets there.

Like Pigeon says, nobody's likely to leave before a manager is appointed. Also any manager won't get all of the money from any sales too.

As for Hangelaand, I wouldn't be upset if we got him, I'm more worried about ending up with Etuhu, Murphy and Zamora replacing Masch, Gerrard and Torres.
 
As for Hangelaand, I wouldn't be upset if we got him, I'm more worried about ending up with Etuhu, Murphy and Zamora replacing Masch, Gerrard and Torres.

Well yeah, but that will never happen will it? He knew the type of players he required, and found the ones he thought fit the bill within Fulham's (then) budget. The total cost of them lot was less than £9m (including Pantsil).
 
Well yeah, but that will never happen will it? He knew the type of players he required, and found the ones he thought fit the bill within Fulham's (then) budget. The total cost of them lot was less than £9m (including Pantsil).

I wasn't being completely serious ;)

I don't dislike Hodgson but imo, he's not proven to be good enough to be a serious long term manager of Liverpool. He's achieved nothing.

He's a short term appointment to 'steady the ship' until the club is sold and we can move forward. My major worry about Hodgson is that his appointment isn't going to inspire or persuade the likes of Torres or Mascherano (who had all but agreed a new deal before Benitez left) to hang around. I said before that if the club are only looking or able to make a short term appointment like Hodgson, then I'd rather the job be given to Dalglish. He's well respected by the likes of Gerrard and Torres and if anybody could persuade them to stay then it would be him.

I just wish the FA would stop ****ing around and sack Capello. Hodgson to England and Capello to Liverpool :cool:........I wish :(
 
I don't dislike Hodgson but imo, he's not proven to be good enough to be a serious long term manager of Liverpool. He's achieved nothing.

Are Inter Milan a big enough side to compare with Liverpool? He managed 3rd and a UEFA cup final there and that's coming from a point where they weren't in particularly great shape.

Let's put it this way I think you could do an awful lot worse than him since he seems to have a knack for getting good results out of what might charitably be described as less than lavish resources.
 
Are Inter Milan a big enough side to compare with Liverpool? He managed 3rd and a UEFA cup final there and that's coming from a point where they weren't in particularly great shape.

Let's put it this way I think you could do an awful lot worse than him since he seems to have a knack for getting good results out of what might charitably be described as less than lavish resources.

So 1 semi-decent season at Inter is enough to suggest he's good enough to build a Liverpool side that's capable of challenging at the highest level? Which is ultimately what the challenge will be to any long-term Liverpool manager.

As for getting good results from limited budgets; he spent a fair bit at Blackburn before getting sacked, leaving them bottom of the league and to go on to be relegated.

Liverpool can't move forward until the club is sold and the main job for any new manager is to try and keep together as many of the current squad as they can, as we're not as bad as we performed last season. I don't think Hodgson is the best man for that job.
 
So 1 semi-decent season at Inter is enough to suggest he's good enough to build a Liverpool side that's capable of challenging at the highest level? Which is ultimately what the challenge will be to any long-term Liverpool manager.

It suggests that of your options he's got at least some experience of managing a decent sized club, getting reasonably results and presiding over a period of transition. I don't think Liverpool in their present state is a particularly attractive option for most of the managers that Liverpool fans think they should be aiming for - the risk/reward ratio is out of kilter, if you do well then it's no more than expected/demanded, if you do badly which is a distinct possibility then you've done significant damage to your career.

As for getting good results from limited budgets; he spent a fair bit at Blackburn before getting sacked, leaving them bottom of the league and to go on to be relegated.

You're right he did, maybe he's got his major mistake out the way now then or maybe he can never be trusted again after such a mistake...

Liverpool can't move forward until the club is sold and the main job for any new manager is to try and keep together as many of the current squad as they can, as we're not as bad as we performed last season. I don't think Hodgson is the best man for that job.

Perhaps not but I still think of the available options he's one of the better ones.
 
I don't think Liverpool in their present state is a particularly attractive option for most of the managers that Liverpool fans think they should be aiming for - the risk/reward ratio is out of kilter, if you do well then it's no more than expected/demanded, if you do badly which is a distinct possibility then you've done significant damage to your career.

I don't disagree. I said when people were calling for Benitez's head that him leaving was the worst possible situation for Liverpool, as in our present situation we're not going to be able to attract a proven 'top' manager.

If and when Hodgson takes over he's going to be on a short term deal and main role is going to be to steady the ship until the club is sold. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain; if he does well, who knows, he might keep the job after the club is sold, and if not, I'm sure he'll walk into another Fulham size club in no time at all.

I don't disklike him, nor do I think we're able to attract a Capello etc, I just think we're ignoring a better option.

Perhaps not but I still think of the available options he's one of the better ones.

I've not said he's the worst option but in Dalglish I think there's a better person to do that job, and there's no doubt he'd take the job too.
 
Liverpool, hundreds of millions in debt, no funds to speak of, which they complain about AT LENGTH, then compain the club makes a sensible choice and goes for a manager who can keep them competitive on a shoe string.

No really, it would make perfect sense to pay say Mourinho 5 times as much as Hodgeson in wages, with no budget, so Mourinho without the players can get angry and leave, and achieve the same league position Hodgeson can achieve.

No really a club in debt should really look to overpay for an excessively qualified manager to oversee a club looking to reduce debt.

The long term goal of winning the league could easily be 15 years away, stop being so damn short sighted.

Not every club that wants to be sold can be sold, not every club that is sold is sold to people with deep pockets willing to wipe out the debt, and not every club that is sold to those with deep pockets is willing to dig the club out of debt with their money but want the club to do it themselves.

But you think its better to overpay for a better manager than the clubs results, players and resources would suggest they are worth and pray a multibillionaire with more money than sense buys Liverpool.

Thats a super inteligent view to take on the situation, have a go at the manager, as fans as a whole protest over his appointment and never get behind him, because that always works out fantastically, all because if every dream of every Liverpool fan is forfilled and an Arab dude comes up and dumps a billion pound in Liverpools bank, Hodgeson won't be the right man at that point.


The smart money would be on Liverpool not being a great investment, the economy showing its not the greatest time to invest, that building a world class 60-80k seater stadium will cost more and be harder to finance now than in a few years, and that Liverpool can't pay off their debt till after the club is out of debt.

LIverpool are in money SAVING mode, and most likely will be for some time and Hodgeson is the PERFECT manager to do so.

As for saying Hodgeson is a huge step down, didn't Hodgeson achieve 7th or so in the league the previous season with very little spent, while Benitez spent a bundle and achieved the same thing, wheres the step down exactly? Benitez isn't a particularly great manager and frankly if I'm honestly, Fulham TRY to play better football than Benitez ever had Liverpool playing. Hodgeson wanted his team to play proper football, and he'll have mostly better players at Liverpool to play it with, incidentally with a team that has players built for attacking.
 
Sotoris Ninis to United? god knows.


Also I think Dalglish is fortunate that Liverpool didn't take him on this time as I think he'd be embarassed these days to be honest.
 
Money saving all right. £6mill to get rid of Benitez. £2mill+ to get Hodgson. Benitez is a far superior manager. Hodgson will be on a good wage as well so anything supposedly saved will be negligible.

Benitez may have spent money but recouped more over the last 2 seasons. Not to say the signings weren't rubbish though. Saying that Hodgson isn't exactly a marvel in the transfer market.

"Fulham TRY to play better football than Benitez ever had Liverpool playing" Yep there away record proves this and also the reason we finished 2nd the season before last.

This appointment will help the Yanks do what they want to do. Sell the likes of Torres etc. Benitez did and would have kicked up too much fuss which had been evident over the last few years.

Any way good luck to him he will need it.
 
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Benitez kicking up too much fuss is 90% of the reason behind trouble at Liverpool, lets go back to LIverpool leading the league, then going on a rant about why lifes not fair to Benitez, rather than focusing on Liverpool winning. Making an enemy of the owners because they wanted 2 weeks to decide over buying Mascherano, a couple months before the transfer window, and only because they already had a trip planned in 2 weeks and just wanted to do the meeting face to face, which is incredibly common in the business world.

Benitez went out and did his first ridiculous press conference where he repeated the same thing over and over. Benitez created so many problems out of nothing, because he's a big baby who had started to take the club backwards.

Coming 2nd, ina year everyone else imploded only proves they weren't good enough when all the "big boys" make mistakes, thats something to be embarassed about not boast about.

Hodgeson will be on significantly less than Benitez, but thats not where the money saving comes in. Lets say they can get 50mil for Torres, Benitez would buy in some Spanish footballer whose potentially good, over pay for him, and then manage to get the worst out of the player by massively over managing the players(Which many many players under benitez have complained about), wasting the 50million completely.

Sorry but there's 2-3 clubs out there that can't sell an over valued played like Torres, as in, some club will pay 50mil for no reason for a guy not worth that, and buy 2-3 players to improve a weaker team and have a better overall squad. Benitez almost certainly would not be able to do that.

Hodgeson on the other hand has proven he's quite capable of taking a team not working, drilling them well, getting them working, and making money.

Remember that Hodgeson turned Zamora from a 2million cast off, to a 10million pound player, he take Hangeland from bargain player to someone who would likely command a 15million transfer fee.

I'd put money on Hodgeson getting players in, getting the BEST out of said players, something Benitez has never ever been capable of, and increasing their value dramatically, buying a lot of cheaper players who he see's potential in, improving the squad with little outlay and possibly making a lot of cash selling them on.

If you're not blinkered, and realise a Arab billionaire buying the club and wiping out the debt is a 100,000/1 shot, you'll realise Liverpool need to be a selling, not a buying club, and need to turn a profit from transfers and pay off debt with the money.

Liverpool as they stand right this second, need to pay off debt, thats it, thats the no.1 priority, Benitez is NOT the guy to do that.
 
Utter rubbish.

Why do you bother reading anything he has to say? He constantly repeats the same ill informed nonsense over and over again; so much so that if you didn't know better, you might actually start to believe him.

Even after Riise's payslip got posted online he was still adamant that he was earning £90k per week.

I hope H&G sell up, buy Arsenal, sack Wenger and DM will be happy and finally shut up.
 
Why do you bother reading anything he has to say? He constantly repeats the same ill informed nonsense over and over again; so much so that if you didn't know better, you might actually start to believe him.

Even after Riise's payslip got posted online he was still adamant that he was earning £90k per week.

I hope H&G sell up, buy Arsenal, sack Wenger and DM will be happy and finally shut up.
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Why do you bother reading anything he has to say? He constantly repeats the same ill informed nonsense over and over again; so much so that if you didn't know better, you might actually start to believe him.

Even after Riise's payslip got posted online he was still adamant that he was earning £90k per week.

I hope H&G sell up, buy Arsenal, sack Wenger and DM will be happy and finally shut up.

Haha :D
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Liverpool as they stand right this second, need to pay off debt, thats it, thats the no.1 priority, Benitez is NOT the guy to do that.

No, the yanks need that, but in doing so means we'l be stuck with them for a significantly longer period of time, and thus still remain stuck as a selling club untill one or both of the yanks either drop dead, get killed or sell on.
I'd rather be relegated then stay another season under their ownership.

because if every dream of every Liverpool fan is forfilled and an Arab dude comes up and dumps a billion pound in Liverpools bank, Hodgeson won't be the right man at that point.
I dont think any true liverpool fan is desperate for us to become Man City Mk II, it's just insane that two cowboy business men can buy the club without a penny of their own money, buy players without a penny of their own money and expect this debt to pay for itself with our revinue, and even when it becomes obvious this isnt going to happen, still sell lies to the banks to keep extending the loan (And get more and more in debt, making a sale even less likely) and 'the powers that be' in RBS and the english FA allowed and allow this still to happen. Madness.
 
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