** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here
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Berbatov says relax.
Footballers smoke, get over it.
And you really trust what a few tabloid snaps in a bar? I wouldn't be surprised if she was paid to be all over him.
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its the truth, the youth of the UK would rather get wasted every weekend than work hard.
rooney and crouch both smoke, yet they know it will cause them to not perform to the best of their abilities in their day jobs. jobs which they get paid over £50K a week to do.
in 10 years time i see nothing but foreigners playing in the EPL with maybe 4/5 top english players. but im sure the FA will come up with some ridiculous rule that you need at least 6 english players in your squad some time soon.
So you are branding every young person in the UK a yob based on what the News of the World say about one or two football players?
Pipe down and stop being so bloody stupid.
Eh? 
Lot's of players smoke, lots of players drink ... Take other countries, South America produce their fair share of drinking / smoking nutters and seem to do quite well at International level.
I'm not putting Englands national side's failings down to smoking and enjoying a drink.
Lot's of players smoke, lots of players drink ... Take other countries, South America produce their fair share of drinking / smoking nutters and seem to do quite well at International level.
I'm not putting Englands national side's failings down to smoking and enjoying a drink.
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Berbatov says relax.
Footballers smoke, get over it.
And you really trust what a few tabloid snaps in a bar? I wouldn't be surprised if she was paid to be all over him.
i dont care about the women, im on about the smoking, he can do whoever he likes, but he shouldnt be smoking.
what does smoking actually do? all it is doing is filling your body with harmful chemicals and it does nothing for you positive? you dont get a buzz, or anything. and the longer you do it the more you need. giving you cancer and all other problems in the long run.
smoking should be banned and i mean completely not just for footballers.
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So it's a personal crusade against smoking?
Where does this 'yob culture' come into it then?
You know what, you spout so much rubbish in here that I just give up.
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im basing it on my many years of clubbing experience. every weekend thousands of teens and young adults pour into city centre's to get wasted on cheap nasty booze, binge drinking to their hearts content.
theirs even shows on tv about it, binge nation, etc. where they go from 1 city to the next in england trying to find the biggest drinkers.
take yesterday as an example, i saw a guy who i knew of from 10 years ago, he was sent to a special school because no normal school would take him due to his behaviour. he now lives in a council house and is about 22/23. he spends every weekend getting wasted with his mates and shouting and swearing at his neighbours. threatening them with abuse. last night 1 of the neighbours must have complained and the police arrived, after talking to them for 10 minutes, they were about to drive off and the car had started moving when he started shouting abuse at them, the officers got out and arrested him, well they tried to anyway. after 30 minutes of him crying in pain about his left arm hurting and refusing to get into the car, another police car turned up with 2 more officers, the 4 of them bundled him into the back, talked for 2 minutes before setting off.
what kind of retard is he? he thinks he is all hard when he is threatening 13 year old boys or 50 year olds, but when the cuffs are slapped on him he was moaning like a **** and pleading to be let go. anyway it was funny, but this is the state of the youth in this country. drinking to their hearts content from an early age. most kids start at 13/14 around here.
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yob culture has ruined the england and scottish national teams. people blame it on other things, but its up to the youth's themselves.
attitudes to drinking and smoking need to drastically change.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–03_FA_Premier_League
02-03 4th, so you're already wrong there,
which means as I said, they were a 4th placed team, who were very good with Gallas/Terry at the back, Lampard in the middle, Hasselbaink and Gudjohnson, Zola upfront, the entire spine of the team that made them so good the following season was there. The biggest buy they made in that first season was Makelele, a £16.8million buy, which even without much cash wasn't an outrageous sum for Chelsea to be spending, in line with previous years frankly.
They were a team clearly on the up, and frankly, the impression people were giving is Chelsea weren't anything before the big money, and thats rubbish, utd. Newcastle fell apart, Arsenal stayed ahead of them in the next season and Utd had a football boot, a angry manager and a target on Beckhams face, then they had a crap season. Without any money chelsea would almost certainly have come second that year, and 1st the year after when Arsenal went poo aswell. Utd went through a slump after beckham left, and that had just as much to do with Chelsea gaining a few places as anything else.
AS for people talking about the special one, rubbish. Chelsea were already on the up, hadn't won anything for years then from 96 onwards won a couple fa cups, league cups, cup winners cup, had a decent season getting to the quarter finals in the champs league.
Thats a club that was on its way to establishing itself as a almost permanent fixture in Europe(it had been since 96).
City were, almost relegated before they got money.
People who think City just spend a little and should be in the same situation as Chelsea, and completely ridiculously talk about the Special one being a big deal, without question Ranieri would have won the title if he stayed, not least because he had a great team and the two best players for Chelsea the next year were Cech and Robben, people Ranieiri bought before he was fired.
If it wasn't for a freak season at Newcastle, Chelsea would have finished 3rd, 2nd the year after and won the league after that.
Again I'll point out, they'd spent beyond their means(or been really badly run, not quite sure which it is?) for several years, they weren't actually that badly in debt, Pompie bottom of the table being 80mil in debt during a credit crunch is really pretty awful, Chelsea, with champs league football, winning cups, consistantly in europe, I think they were only 80mil or so in debt, couple years in the champs league, bigger sponsorship deal and 80mil is nothing for a top 6 club.
Two thinks irk me, people who blindly ignore the reality and think City should be winning the league instantly like Chelsea, and people who completely ignore reality and insist Chelsea were exactly no where before the slight camp oil barron bought the club.
By all means laugh at City for buying Ade, or Barry, or Lescott, Bridge, Jo, SWP, but for not winning the league yet is just stupid. Then again Chelsea, and Mourinho in particular bought LOTS of truly crap players for ridiculous fee's, of which loads were shipped out after a year or two. Mourinho barely bought anyone great, certainly didn't get good value for money.
Why are we talking about 92/93 onwards, because it suits your point? So because from a specific time to before the Mafia came in they were clearly a very much more successful team, with 4-5 cups won, including a pretty big one, and getting in the champs league. Why not tell me their average league position, for ever? Whats Utd's average if we take the last 25 years, if its not top 4, does that mean we can't call them a top 4 team?
its quite simple, the year before they got their money they were a team you expected to seriously be challenging for a top 4 position, a team you'd think incredibly unlikely to finish below 6th and a team you couldn't even imagine as bottom half of the table, hence a good team with a real chance at the title, or, top 4 as we call them these days.
Liverpool have been considered a top 4 team for years and years, yet they've finished 5th behind Everton, and 7th last season, odd results happen, from 96 that was a MASSIVE change in Chelsea, and they were an increasingly competitive team over that time.
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In a bandwidth exceeding post, no mention of top 2 team, like tummy rightly so corrected you on.
Some of us like to do both
Okay, so lets take the past five seasons to suit your point, that gives them an average of 4th place.
That's still not second.
You said they were a top two team before money, they were not. For the ten years before they were a top ten side and for the five years before they'd started to knock on the door of a European place.
Next time you want to back up your point with facts, make sure you're making a valid point not talking ****.
(I personally judge teams over a longer period)
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Wouldn't surprise me given his antics at Newcastle. Another trouble maker that needs bringing down a peg or two. If he doesn't want to play for the club they should stop paying his wages.
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