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As has been pointed out by @ChrisD. above the main difference is that UDM-Pro has a fully routed backplane so if you use all the ports it runs like a dog. The SE does indeed have PoE but it also has a 10GbE capable switching backplane and it’s a far superior device. I couldn’t recommend anyone buy a UDM-Pro (I wouldn’t recommend the SE either) but if you must have an expensive silver box in your rack, the SE is the better value of the two.
Ah that’s good to know!
At the risk of derailment, what ‘prosumer’ level networking kit do you prefer?
Thanks for confirming.
Tnhats some good information as I was led to believe from other sources that they were near enough identical minus PoE so very useful input there.
I did see a previous post of yours stating purchasing other components, RAM etc would blow either of them out of the water.
Oh wow what the hell have they done with the port profiles etc, also L3 capability on the pro switches is a bit lack lustre.
I picked up a UDM Pro and some other 10gb kit as I went with community fibre 3gb offering, luckily both internet solutions can run in parallel so have been setting up and testing along side each other, I did a basic setup on the UDM and then imported the config from my cloud key and USG, at first all looks well as all the devices and clients are listed etc, showing down though as not connected to my network, all vlans there and firewall rules etc, got internet working giving just over 3gb up and down, happy with that.
Then the fun starts, I have a network management vlan, added a USW Pro, its seen, adopts ok, then go and move it to the correct vlan and fail, I was still using the old UI interface at this point, so comparing old and new setups I saw all the port profiles were gone apart from the ones I had created manually.
They really do need to get everything sorted in the new interface and just bin off the old one, having to switch between the two interfaces to do certain things is not clever.
This is not enterprise ready, home use or testing yes, or even small office at a push, I wouldn't put this stuff anywhere near a big enterprise install.
Eventually got it working once I found the dumpster fire which is port profiling on the new interface but not till I had completed a couple switch resets.
Then there is the supposed L3 capability, so you cant migrate existing network to a L3 switch and if you do create a network on the USW Pro there is no security available between the networks, so basically if you want control over your traffic you need to maintain it up at the UDM, pointless then.
On the plus side performance seems good.
I still haven't connected to rest of the network yet, ill try swinging over a couple switches and see if they work or not, I am 50/50 given the experience so far
I picked up a UDM Pro and some other 10gb kit as I went with community fibre 3gb offering, luckily both internet solutions can run in parallel so have been setting up and testing along side each other, I did a basic setup on the UDM and then imported the config from my cloud key and USG, at first all looks well as all the devices and clients are listed etc, showing down though as not connected to my network, all vlans there and firewall rules etc, got internet working giving just over 3gb up and down, happy with that.
Then the fun starts, I have a network management vlan, added a USW Pro, its seen, adopts ok, then go and move it to the correct vlan and fail, I was still using the old UI interface at this point, so comparing old and new setups I saw all the port profiles were gone apart from the ones I had created manually.
They really do need to get everything sorted in the new interface and just bin off the old one, having to switch between the two interfaces to do certain things is not clever.
This is not enterprise ready, home use or testing yes, or even small office at a push, I wouldn't put this stuff anywhere near a big enterprise install.
Eventually got it working once I found the dumpster fire which is port profiling on the new interface but not till I had completed a couple switch resets.
Then there is the supposed L3 capability, so you cant migrate existing network to a L3 switch and if you do create a network on the USW Pro there is no security available between the networks, so basically if you want control over your traffic you need to maintain it up at the UDM, pointless then.
On the plus side performance seems good.
I still haven't connected to rest of the network yet, ill try swinging over a couple switches and see if they work or not, I am 50/50 given the experience so far
It does DHCP and local (intra- and inter-switch routing). Each network can be completely independent and blind to every other network on the controller if you don’t allow inter-LAN routing.
This is the same as every other SD-WAN system I’ve used from Cisco, Arista, HPE. From your description it sounds like you want to be able to go directly into the Switch Management Interface and set up a network completely independent of the controller. I don’t know of any SD-WAN that would allow you to do that. If you ditch the UDM and do your routing on something else eg. a MikroTik/Untangle/OPnSense router then you get closer to what you want, but ultimately the only way to set up anything on a UniFi network is through the controller.
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I’m pretty sure that the old UI is not supported which might explain the issues.
I believe this is still valid: https://community.ui.com/questions/...n-please/fd947197-ad99-404b-9600-fec832ffba9e
The UDM Dreamwall is the only one which is wired for full bandwidth iirc, I don't think I have read otherwise at the moment but could be wrong.
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I can't remember the exact details. From memory, the UDM Pro switch ports will switch between each other at 1 Gbps through the ASIC, but they all share a 1 Gbps link to the CPU. Whereas on the SE they share a 2.5 Gbps link. Think of it as an separate switch connected via a 1 Gbps port, or in the case of the SE a 2.5 Gbps port.
I was under the impression the UDM-Pro / SE are the same other than the addition of the PoE and 2.5Gb RJ45 port, so both have the same limitations.
I keep looking at those Opensense units, as they are compact for the performance you get from them.
Thanks, I was actually reading that prior to my post.
I think I also found a similar explanation to what you've just stated (I think, but lost it)
Why is it still there, if the new interface covers everything and more it should be removed.
No idea, I don't work for Ubiquiti!
This looks to be a big upgrade for the UniFi Network Application but this is a beta release, just updating.