*** Official Ubiquiti Discussion Thread ***

You *******, introducing an entry level 10Gbe switch with Etherlighting right after me buying a 10Gbe switch (though I'm sure it costs far more than what I paid).

Edit - only epeen want. If the baby version costs $500, the Pro XG 10 PoE must a good $100-200* more and it doesn't look silent. Tidy though.

*£666 to be exact.
 
Last edited:
Welcome to the new XG Line

eu.store.ui.com

Switch Pro XG 8 PoE - Ubiquiti Store

Compact desktop/wall-mountable, professional-grade 8-port, Layer 3 Etherlighting™ PoE++ switch with (8) 10 GbE and (2) 10G SFP+ ports.
eu.store.ui.com eu.store.ui.com

eu.store.ui.com

Switch Pro XG 10 PoE - Ubiquiti Store

1U, professional-grade 10-port, Layer 3 Etherlighting™ PoE+++ switch with (10) 10 GbE and (2) 10G SFP+ ports.
eu.store.ui.com eu.store.ui.com

eu.store.ui.com

Switch Pro XG 24 PoE - Ubiquiti Store

Professional-grade, 24-port Layer 3 Etherlighting™ PoE+++ switch with (16) 10 GbE, (8) 2.5 GbE, and (2) 25G SFP28 ports.
eu.store.ui.com eu.store.ui.com

eu.store.ui.com

Switch Pro XG 48 PoE - Ubiquiti Store

Professional-grade, 48-port Layer 3 Etherlighting™ PoE+++ switch with (32) 10 GbE, (16) 2.5 GbE PoE, and (4) 25G SFP28 ports.
eu.store.ui.com eu.store.ui.com

eu.store.ui.com

Switch Pro XG Aggregation - Ubiquiti Store

Professional-grade 32-port, Layer 3 Etherlighting™ switch for high-capacity 25G SFP28 connections.
eu.store.ui.com eu.store.ui.com
 
Since I'm replacing my well served Hikvision cameras/nvr (I want to go 4k, my NVR can only handle 2 cameras @ 4k, I need 3 and a doorcam ) I was looking at going Unifi with a UCG Fibre/Max and their G6 Turrets which are actually cost equivalent to the Hikvision ColorVu3 4K cameras. I think I could then ditch using Frigate (via RTSP) since I only use that for basic object/event detection which I think the G6 Turrets come with.

This prompted me to think about switching over from TPLink (Omada SDN) to Ubiquiti, the main reason being I have been looking to upgrade to a 2.5/10gbe backbone as I'm currently 1gbe throughout and have some WiFi 6 APs that are limited on it and was going to get a 10gbe TP Link switch for the homelab, Plus TPLinks IDS/IPS/VPN throughput is woeful.. Their advantage is that even their cheapest stuff is L2+ with loads of features..


So my questions are
1. I doubt anyone would suggest not switching from TPLink -> Ubiquiti?
2. Is it a folly to just switch (rather than upgrade) brands rather than just carry on with separate NVR/Cameras to the SDN stuff?
3. How well does Unifi Protect work on something like a UCG Fibre? With the G6 Turrets having 'AI' would that all be used by the UCG Fibre?
4. What practically might I lose that is useful in a VLAN home network by using Flex products that seem to have absolutely next to no L2 features?
5. I've read of VLAN limitations on Flex products, I think I can limit port VLAN selection to either trunk or a single VLAN, but each port may have a different VLAN..


Lots of questions, but I'm on the fence and with TPLink not being that trusted, even though they've massively improved their software and feature set to a point I find it a really compelling offering, Ubiquiti have really not had much bad press other than some poor VFM at times and 'it just works' springs to mind..
 
Demon said:
1. I doubt anyone would suggest not switching from TPLink -> Ubiquiti?
2. Is it a folly to just switch (rather than upgrade) brands rather than just carry on with separate NVR/Cameras to the SDN stuff?
3. How well does Unifi Protect work on something like a UCG Fibre? With the G6 Turrets having 'AI' would that all be used by the UCG Fibre?
4. What practically might I lose that is useful in a VLAN home network by using Flex products that seem to have absolutely next to no L2 features?
5. I've read of VLAN limitations on Flex products, I think I can limit port VLAN selection to either trunk or a single VLAN, but each port may have a different VLAN..
Click to expand...
1. If what you have works, then stick with it. No point in spending money unless it's a significant overhaul. Which if you are going to 10 GbE it seems like it might be.
2. I guess everyone will have a different opinion on this. It would be nice to have everything under the same brand/UI though.
3. I've no doubt it will work absolutely fine, it was great on my UDMSE and the CGF is a rocket ship. Just be weary or limited NVMe capacity and you have to pay extra for the disk tray.
4 & 5. If you just want one port as a trunk and different ports on different VLANs (ie, for IoT stuff) they're absolutely fine. You can't do tagged management, ie, you can't allow VLAN 3, 4 and 5 on port 1 but drop VLAN 6. Which for most homes is absolutely fine.

Personally, I think UniFi are great and they've done some huge upgrades to both their software and hardware in recent years. I was chatting to @RSR the other night and it seems like since Chris Buechler left the shackles have been removed.

For non-Chinese, non-subscription based with generally decent support and new releases they're a solid bet and you can do much worse.
 
If you plan to use Protect, I wouldn’t use the UCG-Fibre’s storage and I would buy either a UDM-SE or the UCG Fibre AND the U-NVR.

The UCG-Fibre only has a single NVME tray for storage which is a bottleneck for 4K cameras and basically restricts you to smart detections only.

If you are spending this sort of cash and don’t have 24/7 recording with a (decent) 30 day retention period, it’s a bit of a miss IMO.

When I used a Cloud Key Gen2+ for recording which uses a 2.5” hdd so maxes out at 5TB, I could only record 3 2k cameras and a door bell for 30 days and that was my lot. 4K would have dropped that considerably.

A £200 4TB is only really big enough for smart detections and an 8tb NVME is £550 :eek:
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
If you plan to use Protect, I wouldn’t use the UCG-Fibre’s storage and I would buy either a UDM-SE or the UCG Fibre AND the U-NVR.

The UCG-Fibre only has a single NVME tray for storage which is a bottleneck for 4K cameras and basically restricts you to smart detections only.

If you are spending this sort of cash and don’t have 24/7 recording with a (decent) 30 day retention period, it’s a bit of a miss IMO.

When I used a Cloud Key Gen2+ for recording which uses a 2.5” hdd so maxes out at 5TB, I could only record 3 2k cameras and a door bell for 30 days and that was my lot. 4K would have dropped that considerably.

A £200 4TB is only really big enough for smart detections and an 8tb NVME is £550 :eek:
Click to expand...
Interesting!

I thought (like Hikvision), the newer cameras have far more efficient codecs, the new Hikvision 8MP uses less storage than my existing 4MP ones.. (H265+ vs H264)

e.g. for the Unifi G6 Turrets
hostbor.com

Hands-On: UniFi G6 Bullet, Turret & Instant Cameras Tested - Hostbor - Tech Reviews, Home Labs & AI Computing Guide

Ubiquiti has just dropped a bombshell on the security camera market with their new UniFi Protect G6 lineup, and I’ve been busy putting all three...
hostbor.com hostbor.com
20GB/day for the G6 Turrets 24/7 @ 4K, thats 600GB per 30 days, so x3 cameras, 1.8TB.. I have a spare 4TB NVME I can dedicate to it.

Good shout on the u-nvr though..

I'll have to double check, I thought 4TB would stretch to 3 x 4k turrets..
 
Last edited:
As much as I like h265 which I initially used when I needed to look at the CCTV the computer I was using didn't support it so I have gone back to H264 for compatibility.
 
Demon said:
Interesting!

I thought (like Hikvision), the newer cameras have far more efficient codecs, the new Hikvision 8MP uses less storage than my existing 4MP ones.. (H265+ vs H264)

e.g. for the Unifi G6 Turrets
hostbor.com

Hands-On: UniFi G6 Bullet, Turret & Instant Cameras Tested - Hostbor - Tech Reviews, Home Labs & AI Computing Guide

Ubiquiti has just dropped a bombshell on the security camera market with their new UniFi Protect G6 lineup, and I’ve been busy putting all three...
hostbor.com hostbor.com
20GB/day for the G6 Turrets 24/7 @ 4K, thats 600GB per 30 days, so x3 cameras, 1.8TB.. I have a spare 4TB NVME I can dedicate to it.

Good shout on the u-nvr though..

I'll have to double check, I thought 4TB would stretch to 3 x 4k turrets..
Click to expand...
I’d not factored in h265, clearly I am using h264 on my older g4 and g5 cameras!

The fibre may work then for a small number of cameras with its with a 4TB SSD.

I would expect H265 is more compute intensive but you’ll be miles off the limits of the Fibre so just need to consider the playback device as above.
 
Last edited:
Is anyone regularly running Hikvision cameras off their setup reliably?
I'm still using the Hikvision NVR with two 4MP (H265+ capable apparently) cameras but now I'll be switching to a smaller rack, That NVR will have to go. I do have a spare 2TB laying around so that will have to go in the CGF. I'm aware I won't get detection etc.
 
Been slowly dipping into the Unifi system after getting annoyed with ASUS. Started with getting an AP and running that off the router before I move on to getting a cloud gateway, etc. For now, I'd just been running the AP with it sitting on a shelf but got a cat6 ran through the ceiling void and got it all mounted up.

Man, that's one damn tight fit with a cat6 cable. I just went with a direct crimp into the AP (which tested fine), but shoving the AP tight against the housing and screwing it down got me thinking about that cable basically having a near 90 degree bend in it up into the cable hole lol. Going to actually have to take it back down tomorrow because I forgot to put the bit of plastic in the cable path, so whoops. Guess I can check if that kinked the cable then.
 
Last edited:
Ok well after taking down the AP today to put the plug on, I saw that the cable was a bit kinked where it went up into the hole. After putting it back in place I find out it's now linking at 100Mbps, so there's my answer I guess. :(

I basically just drilled a 7mm hole straight up, so that was probably my mistake. Didn't think about angling the drill to match how the cable exits the back of the AP. If there's anyone else who has mounted these things, how did you do it? If all else fails I can just punch it down into a keystone hidden in the ceiling and bring down a stranded patch cable, but that's one additional point of failure.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom