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j.col said:
same here,
still on the short 88mm, and it lacks in pen against higher tiers. i should have really of got the tiger p, iirc its like 10k less xp needed to unlock the long 88mm, but then i bought the tiger when it was on 50% discount, tiger p wasn't, so cant really grumble

@delboy
i installed the xvm mod last night, its quite interesting, looking at the players stats before the game. had about 10 games with it, the win chance was right most times, but 1 battle, it said 85% loss, and we won 6-15, but it was a defend base game on Pokorovka (the one with the tracks and hill), but for once nobody camped on hill.
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I'd say its right 9/10. That 10% when you get a high win rate like 85%+ I think people just see it and think "this is gonna be a piece of cake" and just throw themselves into the battle without considering how they will go about it and end up losing. I've seen this a few times.
 
wodgah said:
Am currently stuck in the Tiger trying to get to the Tiger II seems to be taking a long time, and if I am honest im a bit disappointed with the Tiger.
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Does get a little tiresome when isn't upgraded as quite frankly most of the tanks do in this game. It may be technically a heavy tank but it really isn't that good at absorbing damage like Russian and and even US counterparts of the same level so it really isn't what I'd consider a front line tank.

It works best in sniper role just behind the front line and I really wouldn't lead a charge in it unless you're top of the table as the armour on it isn't that thick at all so make sure you angle yourself, every little helps!

Top speed is also nothing to shout home about but at least with the upgraded engines it does become relatively agile and acceleration rate really picks up.
 
Delboy said:
I'd say its right 9/10. That 10% when you get a high win rate like 85%+ I think people just see it and think "this is gonna be a piece of cake" and just throw themselves into the battle without considering how they will go about it and end up losing. I've seen this a few times.
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Heh, yeah seen that happen a few times on both sides. 90% win rates where your allies were idiots and got themselves killed and 10% win rates where the enemies did exactly the same thing and you won.

However, what I really hate are those matches where you were clearly supposed to lose right from the start. You know, the ones where you fire shots that would normally penetrate 9/10 and you bounce or zero damage them. After watching Link in his IS bounce off the vertical front section of a low hp VK not once, but twice, at point blank range, and for the VK to keep penetrating despite being a tier lower with a weaker gun, you know something is up.

And freaking typical. Fingers crossed I'm getting internet access on the 21st, so they throw in a weekend event with half price equipment at the same time I could've gotten a day premium with that code! Absolute *******s!
 
Calneon said:
Recently started playing this again, I have an M4A3E8 (VI US Medium). Looking to progress down to the pershing/patton etc. Are these good tanks?
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i am hating the T20 at stock, i think my record is 20 battles 17 losses, 1 survivied :( it is suppoosed to be very good once u have it elited, but its a bit of a grind to unlock everything, also i notice the mm is not nice to it, every game so far i have been in the bottom 5 tanks :(
 
I love the T20 once you upgrade it, feel like I can actually contribute even when in the bottom 5 tanks (which does seem a lot). fast enough to flank or run away! and the gun is pretty decent and accurate. 8k till Pershing
 
If I remember rightly (probably don't), in the stock T20 I had a lot of problems in circling enemy tanks as my speed kept dipping below the enemy tanks turret rotation.

Elited does make an decent improvement particularly when crew skills get to 100%.

The MM can be harsh at times with a lot of fights against tier 9s and the odd 10. It is doable and enjoyable, the only downside with the MM is the reduced survival chance (against 9s etc) can hurt your wallet. A destroyed tank makes you little cash (but the same can be said for most tanks tier 7 and above).
 
XVM offers nice info. Sometimes you see only reds in the enemy team so you know your team should win easily that round.

But I always try to kill first the players with highest efficiency.

When XVM says the chance of victory is above 85% then you have to relax because most likely your team will win the game in 5-7 minutes.
 
Can't that backfire massively? You spend your time trying to hit the guy with high efficiency but bouncing off his armour or not taking shots you could've on others instead of targetting the tanks in plain sight that are sure things. Even a crap players gun still does damage, its only the truly incompetent ones you can genuinely ignore (you know the ones, the players who sit in the open or become so tunnel visioned on another player they don't seem to notice you at all).
 
I have XVM lite and it's great as I find the full version too depressing. However is there an addon that shows the players efficiency but doesn't give the %win chance?

Also is it me or in the efficiency calcs are capping and defending points worth too much. In a game where I got ace tanker on my t59 I got an efficiency of 2.8k, in a game where I had ~70 defence points I got an efficiency of 13k. I got a feeling efficiency doesn’t really mean much at all.
 
I agree. Pantherophis has around 1700 without gold and hes damn good at the game.

On another note, got my 2nd 6950 flashed to 6970 today. I can run every setting @ max @ 1920 x 1200, but im mega cpu limited even with my 2600k @ 4.7GHz. One core runs 100% in game lol.
 
Slackjaw190 said:
I have XVM lite and it's great as I find the full version too depressing. However is there an addon that shows the players efficiency but doesn't give the %win chance?

Also is it me or in the efficiency calcs are capping and defending points worth too much. In a game where I got ace tanker on my t59 I got an efficiency of 2.8k, in a game where I had ~70 defence points I got an efficiency of 13k. I got a feeling efficiency doesn’t really mean much at all.
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Yeah I've noticed that. I did about 5.5k damage in my JT which is pretty good, but also got 95 cap points which shot my efficiency rating up for that match to 17k.

linktoinsanity said:
In my experience, to get THAT high you generally have to be using Gold Ammo.
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Puppetmaster said:
I agree. Pantherophis has around 1700 without gold and hes damn good at the game.

On another note, got my 2nd 6950 flashed to 6970 today. I can run every setting @ max @ 1920 x 1200, but im mega cpu limited even with my 2600k @ 4.7GHz. One core runs 100% in game lol.
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Indeed. Going over 1400 generally means a good player and/or lots of platooning/clanning in companies. Going over 1600 generally means both a good player and lots of platooning or tank companies which gives you an edge. Getting anything higher is just stat padding and gold ammo. Doesn't matter how good you are, you are still only 1 player in a team of 15.
 
Company and CW lowers your efficiency. You will do less damage and there is hardly any capping.

You only need to cap and not play artillary to get 1700 or more efficiency; none of the guys I play with use gold outside CW.

EDIT: For me in order for efficiency to work; you need to have grinded your tanks and not bought your way to the top. I have much more respect for players who have played and ground all the bad tanks and still have good efficiency.
 
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Ive not been on this much lately. all this talk of efficiency has made me have a look at mine which is 1394.37. Not to shabby then.

Think i will have a few games later.
 
jms198 said:
Company and CW lowers your efficiency. You will do less damage and there is hardly any capping.

You only need to cap and not play artillary to get 1700 or more efficiency; none of the guys I play with use gold outside CW.

EDIT: For me in order for efficiency to work; you need to have grinded your tanks and not bought your way to the top. I have much more respect for players who have played and ground all the bad tanks and still have good efficiency.
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Yeah. Having a high efficiency generally just means you play a lot with the tanks you're good with.

http://wot-dossier.appspot.com/

You can use this app to see your efficiency rating for each individual tank. Mine vary from over 3000, to less than 1000.

Even arty doesn't really lower eff from what I've seen, as properly played arty always has an insane damage dealt/damage received ratio compared to regular tanks.

Had a few rounds on the test server last night. They've implented physics! It's quite random and buggy at the moment, but really fun. Tanks climbing hills they're not supposed to, getting stuck in strange places, people pushing t95's to 50kph down hill... attempting to ram each other off the docks in fjords into the water. I managed to jump my t50 down the cliff on karelia, and land on top of a maus. :)
 
Will download the test patch tonight and try it out I think. Can see myself having a holiday till British tanks if its not up to much

EDIT: Is the premium british tank on the test server? I thought that was supposedly coming with 8.0
 
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