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I quite like the British Tier 9 heavy, but the British high tier tanks definately need more armour. (Not the meds) I do like the Brit medium line and do intend to grind that. Still not sure about the British heavy line though. The Black Prince is pretty good as is the T8, but then generally all I have been fighting is British tanks anyway. However, they do say that they are still balancing the British tanks so as long as they don't nerf them, we should be fine...
 
The bigest change will be premium ammo for silver. Suddenly my Type is going to be very OP. Cheap to run, loads of credits and 'gold' ammo if I want it.

Basically it will be like 1 year ago when every game had 8 types in. Hmm maybe that's the idea - get everybody to buy premiuum tanks to be able to afford the 'gold' ammo ?
 
Hodders said:
The bigest change will be premium ammo for silver. Suddenly my Type is going to be very OP. Cheap to run, loads of credits and 'gold' ammo if I want it.

Basically it will be like 1 year ago when every game had 8 types in. Hmm maybe that's the idea - get everybody to buy premiuum tanks to be able to afford the 'gold' ammo ?
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BINGO!

Its a ploy to get everyone to buy premium tanks to be able to afford premium ammo. From my understanding it will go in for 8.1 and taken out again at 8.2 while they evaluate if it will be profitable for them, if the answer is yes then 8.3 (or whatever) will see its return.
 
Delboy said:
BINGO!

Its a ploy to get everyone to buy premium tanks to be able to afford premium ammo. From my understanding it will go in for 8.1 and taken out again at 8.2 while they evaluate if it will be profitable for them, if the answer is yes then 8.3 (or whatever) will see its return.
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That case then its going to be worth stocking up on any gold ammo for the gap inbetween
 
Delboy said:
BINGO!

Its a ploy to get everyone to buy premium tanks to be able to afford premium ammo. From my understanding it will go in for 8.1 and taken out again at 8.2 while they evaluate if it will be profitable for them, if the answer is yes then 8.3 (or whatever) will see its return.
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Cynical... and most likely, spot on. If they truly cared about the balance they would remove the 'gold' ammo outright not make it so you need premium of some sort to afford it.

How much is the gold ammo going to cost now then?
 
I dont think it's much of a sound plan because it's not sustainable. ie once you have a prem tank, you don't need any more. That model would require on a constant stream of 'fresh blood'.
 
Evilsod said:
Cynical... and most likely, spot on. If they truly cared about the balance they would remove the 'gold' ammo outright not make it so you need premium of some sort to afford it.

How much is the gold ammo going to cost now then?
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400 silver credits = 1 gold.

A premium shell typically costs around 10 gold, so 4000 credits = 10 gold

Loading up the E100 (42 pieces) with premium ammo would cost approx 168,000 silver credits. Or to put it another way about 3 games in a Type 59 if you average 55k profit per game.

Just to give you an idea, using premium ammo gives the top guns on these tanks the following penetration values (taken from forum so I haven't validated the values)

IS-7 will have 303 pen
IS-4 will have 400! pen
T110E5 will have 381 pen
Maus will have 311 pen
E100 will have 334 pen
AMX 50B will have 351 pen
E50-M will have 350 pen
T62A will have 350 pen
Batchat will have 360 pen
M48A1 will have 350 pen

400 pen from the IS4 is insane!

Of course, premium ammo does not guarantee pen everytime. You still have to aim properly - but no doubt every single retard in the game will jump on premium ammo and expect to win every single time.

EDIT: E100 premium ammo costs 12 gold, so 4800 silver per shell = 201,600 credits to fill with premium ammo.

Source: http://www.worldoftanksguide.com/cgi-bin/gun_db.cgi
 
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Amleto said:
I dont think it's much of a sound plan because it's not sustainable. ie once you have a prem tank, you don't need any more. That model would require on a constant stream of 'fresh blood'.
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But to be able to sustain premium ammo you will DEFINATELY need a premium account AND premium tank. So, sustainable income comes from people renewing or extending their premium accounts.

For example, on the test server, a good game in an E100 where as a platoon we stormed through and killed about 9 tanks between us (about 3 per tank) I made 60k silver credits with a total loss of 12,500 using both a premium account and having it automatically replenish premium ammo from my silver store. Hence, economically replenishing premium ammo from silver is not viable in the long term. If you have a bad game you would make more of a loss and you'd either have to grind your premium tank/account and/or switch back to using standard AP shells.

Essentially they are switching the emphasis away from buying gold shells every now and again to having to have a premium account just to be able to sustain a nominal income from playing with premium ammo.
 
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Hetzer gonna hurt! & maybe the E-100 will be worth getting now.....
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Yeah, we proved the E100 is simply a beast with the premium ammo on the test server. 3 of us, sticking together and focus fire. IS7 dead in one volley, Maus dead soon after. An E100 will be something to be feared, a platoon of them that focus fire would be damn near impossble to stop because every 16 seconds the enemy would lose a tier x tank! :D

p.s. I'm qute happy with the premium ammo for silver change.

1. I have several premium tanks to fund my new E100 addiction.
2. I often run premium account anyway.
3. I already own the E100.
4. It evens the playing field with clans that have held land on the global map for ages and have pots of gold to share around which in turn help their players improve their overall stats. It basically makes CW viable for smaller clans to get stuck into as they can at least load premium shells now without have to farm/spend gold - this is a good thing. Whether they have the tanks and/or playerbase for a sustained campaign is another matter entirely.
5. I already own the E100. :)

EDIT: I've just noticed the JagdPz E-100 penetration values....

Germany TD X JagdPz E-100 17 cm PaK 46 17cm High-Explosive Anti-Tank Gr 46 H1A 315 525 420 788 1313 1050 - 12g 2.33 2.33 0.35 2.9 365000
 
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Just noticed the penetration values for the Tier X TDs !!!

Average Pen and damage in green

JagdPz E-100

Germany TD X JagdPz E-100 17 cm PaK46 17cm High-Explosive Anti-Tank Gr 46 H1A 315 525 420 788 1313 1050 - 12g 2.33 2.33 0.35 2.9 365000

Obj 268

USSR TD X Object 268 152 mm M64 152mm High-Explosive Anti-Tank UBK551M 338 563 450 638 1063 850 - 12g 3.53 3.53 0.33 2.7 0
 
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Hi guys,

Just a thought as this might interest some with some spare time and no cash to spare on WoT gold.

I don't know if you were aware but there is a website where you fill in surveys and do all sorts of marketing stuff (sing up to advert e-mails) and generally get a lot of spam, but as a reward you collect points which you can then exchange for things like vouchers.
One of these vouchers is the Ultimate Points one and as you know this gives you gold for WoT.

I've singed up and done quite a few of these and eventually got the points needed for a $10 Ultimate card. Had to wait 2 days, but then the code turned up, I tried it and it all worked so I can confirm it is legitimate.

The website is called PriceRebel.com.

I'd recommend signing up with a new e-mail, as there are tonns of spam going in, read the qualification criteria for entries and avoid signing up to the paid phone things which give great points but cost more than they are actually worth it!

I grinded the points for the card in about a day or two, with maybe 1h each day of clicking and answering surveys (most of these you don't need to even give them real details). It seems like you can easily get a 1month premium for not much work here.
 
linktoinsanity said:
Yeh I am interested in what this premium ammo will mean. And I also already own an E100. They may actually become very useful to own in clanwars...
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Really? I'd of thought the opposite. The E-100 is a lumbering pile of armour. If everyone and there mum can now buy premium ammo without requiring gold you can probably say that a high majority of T9/10 tanks will be using premium rounds (or at the very least, they will probably have some premium rounds available to use where before they wouldn't) and probably have no trouble at all penning the E-100.

I'm starting to see less and less reason to ever come back and play this game now. It sounds like its taken one giant towards true 'pay to win'.
 
Near a upgrade choice for the E70 or is it E75 lol. Anyhow i am around 55k in resources for it and can soon either get the best engine or the best gun. Which would be the better upgrade. I want to say the gun as i can never pen is4 or above and i never know where on tanks to hit as most times when i think its a good spot it isnt really. The engine if it helps movement a nice amount would be nice as the E75 is slow on the medium engine or whatever eng isnt the max for it.
 
SkeeterUK said:
Near a upgrade choice for the E70 or is it E75 lol. Anyhow i am around 55k in resources for it and can soon either get the best engine or the best gun. Which would be the better upgrade. I want to say the gun as i can never pen is4 or above and i never know where on tanks to hit as most times when i think its a good spot it isnt really. The engine if it helps movement a nice amount would be nice as the E75 is slow on the medium engine or whatever eng isnt the max for it.
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I would say your better getting the gun as it helps loads in getting the rest of the modules. You will still have some strange bounces on the IS4 even with the top gun and i swear i miss more with the top gun than i do with the tiger gun.
 
SkeeterUK said:
Near a upgrade choice for the E70 or is it E75 lol. Anyhow i am around 55k in resources for it and can soon either get the best engine or the best gun. Which would be the better upgrade. I want to say the gun as i can never pen is4 or above and i never know where on tanks to hit as most times when i think its a good spot it isnt really. The engine if it helps movement a nice amount would be nice as the E75 is slow on the medium engine or whatever eng isnt the max for it.
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Definitely the gun as long as you have everything else needed to mount it (tracks/turret). It will make getting the XP for the top engine easier.
 
Thx.

Btw i got a asus DG soundcard and wanted to try the dolby headphones on this game. I tried the proper way to setup for dolby headphones i.e 8 channel in the asus controls, pcm 44, analogue out is headphones with amp set to pro gamer mode and Dolby headphones set to on with dh2 room ref.

Yet ingame it sounds like its 1 channel even worse than normal 2 channel mode without dolby headphones. Any ideas how to get this dolby stuff working on the soundcard for this game? I would like to hear it the way i think it should be with it on.
 
Evilsod said:
Really? I'd of thought the opposite. The E-100 is a lumbering pile of armour. If everyone and there mum can now buy premium ammo without requiring gold you can probably say that a high majority of T9/10 tanks will be using premium rounds (or at the very least, they will probably have some premium rounds available to use where before they wouldn't) and probably have no trouble at all penning the E-100.

I'm starting to see less and less reason to ever come back and play this game now. It sounds like its taken one giant towards true 'pay to win'.
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Difference is the alpha damage on the E100, and lots of them can take out an is7 very very quickly, especially with the higher pen from the premium shells. Also the premium shells will now be available to more people, as you don't HAVE to have gold for them anymore, so don't see the pay to win for that...

I would have preferred it being removed alltogether though.

Don't argue Evil, you'll lose! :p

Regarding the E75, the engine makes a difference, but firstly I would always go gun.
 
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