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linktoinsanity said:
Difference is the alpha damage on the E100, and lots of them can take out an is7 very very quickly, especially with the higher pen from the premium shells. Also the premium shells will now be available to more people, as you don't HAVE to have gold for them anymore, so don't see the pay to win for that...

I would have preferred it being removed alltogether though.

Don't argue Evil, you'll lose! :p

Regarding the E75, the engine makes a difference, but firstly I would always go gun.
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Except you need premium vehicles and premium to have any chance of affording to stock gold ammo. It is completely out of reach for anyone without a premium tank. High tier battles will probably see a lot of gold rounds making position your tank an exercise in futility and I wouldn't be surprised if lower tier tanks stocked a few of them to use against anything with armour.

If thats not pay to win I don't know what is. It is completely unsustainable without pumping money into the game. They should've been removed completely. But then WG have been steadily increasing the penetration values of gold ammo vs regular rounds so its hardly unsurprising they don't give a flying **** about the balance :rolleyes:
 
Evilsod said:
Except you need premium vehicles and premium to have any chance of affording to stock gold ammo. It is completely out of reach for anyone without a premium tank. High tier battles will probably see a lot of gold rounds making position your tank an exercise in futility and I wouldn't be surprised if lower tier tanks stocked a few of them to use against anything with armour.

If thats not pay to win I don't know what is. It is completely unsustainable without pumping money into the game. They should've been removed completely. But then WG have been steadily increasing the penetration values of gold ammo vs regular rounds so its hardly unsurprising they don't give a flying **** about the balance :rolleyes:
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If you are serious enough about the game to play in clan wars, chances are you have a premium tank anyway. I have refused on principle to have too many gold shells in my tanks, because it costs gold to fire each shot, with it costing credits I am more inclined to use those instead, in clanwars (rarely randoms). Surely this removes pay to play so much, you aren't paying for each shot?
 
linktoinsanity said:
If you are serious enough about the game to play in clan wars, chances are you have a premium tank anyway. I have refused on principle to have too many gold shells in my tanks, because it costs gold to fire each shot, with it costing credits I am more inclined to use those instead, in clanwars (rarely randoms). Surely this removes pay to play so much, you aren't paying for each shot?
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I was thinking more outside of clan wars. Its been pretty obvious for a long time that pay to win is required to simply maintain the balance in clan wars since everyone else uses it. My Type was fun to drive and was used to generate credits for tanks. Its pathetic when you come up against other types and attempt to position your tank to increase the chance of bouncing only to be penned on every single shot because the other guy uses gold rounds and you don't. That sort of thing will probably become a very common occurrence now.

And I have definitely seen instances already where I think it was you who came up against another Maus or E-100 and no matter how well you positioned yourself he went straight through cos he was using gold and you weren't so kept bouncing. I'm really not interested in continuing to play that sort of game.
 
Gold shells for Credits = more premium tanks around and more premium accounts purchased = win for WG.

They would not commit to this unless they had pretty good idea of how it will affect their money income...
 
Well you don't really need gold ammo for type vs type combat most of the time. Everything goes through the commanders hatch as long as you're close enough to actually hit the thing.

Point is.... nobody is gonna be able to use this ammo all the time. If you earn 50-70K with the type on an average round, firing between 10 and 20 shells....... that's not gonna work if your shells suddenly change from costing next to nothing to 4000 a pop.

A good player "might" be able to run their type exclusively on premium ammo, but they certainly won't have any credits left over to buy other tanks with.

Chances are this is just gonna increase the divide between good players and **** ones. **** players already don't buy repair kits and medipacks, so chances are they're not gonna buy premium ammo either.

I expect the smart players will use standard ammo most of the time, and then switch to premium when they encounter something that's particularly difficult to penetrate. The same as what players with lots of gold do at the moment. It'll just be another tool we use to play better, and something the "siemas" ignore, making them even worse.
 
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Me personally will be going to gold ammo only on certain lower tier tanks and with specific guns (ie. 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 on Panther = bigger DPM but poor pen, so on gold you can actually hurt T8-10 if you aim well). Same goes for all arties, especially French ones.
 
SkeeterUK said:
Thx.

Btw i got a asus DG soundcard and wanted to try the dolby headphones on this game. I tried the proper way to setup for dolby headphones i.e 8 channel in the asus controls, pcm 44, analogue out is headphones with amp set to pro gamer mode and Dolby headphones set to on with dh2 room ref.

Yet ingame it sounds like its 1 channel even worse than normal 2 channel mode without dolby headphones. Any ideas how to get this dolby stuff working on the soundcard for this game? I would like to hear it the way i think it should be with it on.
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try 6 channel, turn pro gamer off its crap. make sure you use select dolby headphone.

Plus try these drivers they are better than the Asus ones

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/asus-xonar-unified-drivers/
 
jimbob27 said:
Well you don't really need gold ammo for type vs type combat most of the time. Everything goes through the commanders hatch as long as you're close enough to actually hit the thing.

Point is.... nobody is gonna be able to use this ammo all the time. If you earn 50-70K with the type on an average round, firing between 10 and 20 shells....... that's not gonna work if your shells suddenly change from costing next to nothing to 4000 a pop.

A good player "might" be able to run their type exclusively on premium ammo, but they certainly won't have any credits left over to buy other tanks with.

Chances are this is just gonna increase the divide between good players and **** ones. **** players already don't buy repair kits and medipacks, so chances are they're not gonna buy premium ammo either.

I expect the smart players will use standard ammo most of the time, and then switch to premium when they encounter something that's particularly difficult to penetrate. The same as what players with lots of gold do at the moment. It'll just be another tool we use to play better, and something the "siemas" ignore, making them even worse.
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You can't really aim at a types commander hatch when both of you are moving to try and outflank each other. Most likely people will just use premium rounds when they come up against something with armour, but that still means 'pay to win'. Tank has good armour? I'll just use these premium rounds so I can pen it easily. Tank is angling himself well so I keep bouncing? Swap to premium rounds. It wasn't so bad in the days that Premium Ammo meant 20-40mm more penetration but lately it seems everything is getting 50-100mm or more extra penetration so angling is absolutely useless.
 
Evilsod said:
You can't really aim at a types commander hatch when both of you are moving to try and outflank each other. Most likely people will just use premium rounds when they come up against something with armour, but that still means 'pay to win'. Tank has good armour? I'll just use these premium rounds so I can pen it easily. Tank is angling himself well so I keep bouncing? Swap to premium rounds. It wasn't so bad in the days that Premium Ammo meant 20-40mm more penetration but lately it seems everything is getting 50-100mm or more extra penetration so angling is absolutely useless.
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In the type, when you are both trying to flank one another there are either tracks or the side to shoot at. Hatch is when you are turret hugging.

I agree with the newer guns having stupidly high pen with Gold though.
 
daver said:
Will probably have to wait forever knowing wargaming. They don't seem very interested in fixing stuff like that. They haven't even removed South Coast from the map rotation despite the fact its absolutely borked
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Another fellow Manchester Tanker ;)

Out of interest what graphics card are you using?

I had problems with an HD 7950, it's fine with a GTX 660 Ti
 
I can't say i'm very impressed with the IS.

I have resorted to using the 100mm gun as it has the same penetration as the 122mm but better accuracy and much faster reload.

The 122mm drives me nuts! re-load, pop out from cover, aim (for about 4 secs) FIRE!

Penetration! Then nothing?? :confused:

What the hell is that all about?
 
SkodaMart said:
I can't say i'm very impressed with the IS.

I have resorted to using the 100mm gun as it has the same penetration as the 122mm but better accuracy and much faster reload.

The 122mm drives me nuts! re-load, pop out from cover, aim (for about 4 secs) FIRE!

Penetration! Then nothing?? :confused:

What the hell is that all about?
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IS is a fantastic tank. Along with the 122 (faster loading) gun. The pen no damage happens all the time in this game due to a number of factors. The main causes tend to be: -

-Spaced Armour
-Lag
-Server mismatch to client pen.

It doesn't matter what tank you drive, though I understand with a slower loading gun you may be more inclined to notice. However for a heavy tank the IS actually has a pretty fast loading time, so if you can't deal with that, move over to playing medium tanks.

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The tanks being reduced are as follows:
Tier IX Medium Tanks
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Tier IX Heavy Tanks
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Tier VIII Premium Vehicles will receive a 15% discount!

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Special weekend next weekend. Looks pretty good, Patton for me then and maybe finally the IS6.
 
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SkodaMart said:
I can't say i'm very impressed with the IS.

I have resorted to using the 100mm gun as it has the same penetration as the 122mm but better accuracy and much faster reload.

The 122mm drives me nuts! re-load, pop out from cover, aim (for about 4 secs) FIRE!

Penetration! Then nothing?? :confused:

What the hell is that all about?
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the IS is one of my favourite tanks, i also use the 122mm with a rammer and enhanced laying drive, so saves time on reload and aiming.
it is a bit inaccurate over 100m, but if u know where to aim, it can do a lot of damage.
so with this weekends special, if u dont have a rammer or laying drive, buy them, they will be 50% off ;)
 
I hated the IS when I had it (7.1 patch) the aim time was awful it did get slightly better with the Gun 122 mm D-25T, I also stuck with the 100mm on the SU-100 not a fan of 122mm.

Anyone here with T-62A? I have the E-50M and not enjoying it as much as the E-50 for some reason thinking of selling it and going for the T-62A also is the new T-54 gun worth getting?
 
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I have the T-62A, great tank. Quick at moving around, gun is awesome - fires every 6 seconds for ~350dmg. Armour not so great though.

The new gun for the T-54 is not worth it. Slightly less pen which in the games it gets put in is actually quite critical. Rather have a slightly slower firing gun that has better chance of doing damage.
 
I'm now using the 100mm with the IS and I am enjoying it a lot more.
I'm actually doing well with it, however I suspect that the Tiger may suit me better as I prefer sniper type tanks to brawlers.
An assault gun on a paper tank is tricky to play. I'm not saying the IS is paper but against the tanks it faces its pretty poor. The accuracy of the first 122mm can be woeful.

KV1-S was fine because it could one shot a lot of the stuff it faced with the 122mm.
 
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