** Official WoW Catalysm Alpha/Beta Thread **

Deadbeat said:
but I still can't understand why you'd roll a new character to experience the enw content and then snip through each zone without really spending any time there.
Click to expand...

I think the problem is that you assume we make new characters for content only and not playing a new class, the fun of low levels and playing with friends.

I've never played a tank and will be making a Prot Pala in cataclysm with all the heirlooms I get to make myself a better than normal tank ;)
 
ChrisJSY said:
I think the problem is that you assume we make new characters for content only and not playing a new class, the fun of low levels and playing with friends.

I've never played a tank and will be making a Prot Pala in cataclysm with all the heirlooms I get to make myself a better than normal tank ;)
Click to expand...

That's probably it, I guess - I was indeed assuming that rerollers at the moment would be doing so to check out the new Azeroth. I still think the majority are, and you're the exception :p
 
Last edited:
Deadbeat said:
Still, I have to reiterate that I'm not saying heritage items should be removed, but I still can't understand why you'd roll a new character to experience the enw content and then snip through each zone without really spending any time there. I'm also not saying that a grind should be mandatory, just that I'd like an option to slow it down if I choose to use it. Does that not make sense to anyone else?
Click to expand...

I can understand what you mean. A lot of people however, roll a new character in order to power to 80/85 and gear it up to raid/PvP. They do not read quests or care about them, all they want to do is level fast.

At the end of the day, you can still do all the quests you want and you dont need to use heirloom items, I wouldn't let it bother you.

If you were concerned about 'leveling speed' (the only thing that heirlooms affect), you wouldn't be worried about seeing all the quests, so you dont lose out.
 
Deadbeat said:
Not all the quests I want :p. I still think an option of having a -10% heirloom item or two would be a good idea.
Click to expand...

Possibly, but considering you are the only person who would use it, it wont happen :p

Doing grey quests is sort of the same as having a -% heirloom. The options are there.
 
tbh ive done more exploring of the changes on my main with a few guildies we were runnin round the new zones exploring the changes.

I fully get what your saying about making the levelling slower if you wanted it that way, i mean they added an option to turn off xp in bg's so if they had an option to reduce levelling xp i can see that being another option for people.

Personally when i level i dont immediately leave an area once ive passed the level bracket. If im enjoying teh area ill stay till ive cleared pretty much any quests i can find, i can certainly see myself doing that in the goblin area and ashenvale.

Once we hit outland all i want to do is gtfo there and the same with northrend, those areas are the grind now.


I think a lot of people will have my mentality of exploring the old worlds on their main to see the changes, any of us with 310% riding skill will be able to explore areas till their hearts content and at whatever speed they choose.

My reason for rerolling is to be a goblin so i cant do that until after my main is 85 and raid ready which will be some time.

By the time im ready to start on the goblin ill be sharing my time between the new alt, leveling up key professions on other alts, making gold for my main, raiding on my main, helping guildies level etc.

Its a lot of a time sink for sure and what little time i will have on my goblin i will enjoy very much but it will def be with hierlooms, as much for their gear as their xp.

Id say overall across my main and alts there wont be an inch of the new content that i dont experience in some shape or form, it will just be across a range of chars rather than one alt.

Hope that makes a bit more sense, its not as much about flying through content per say as seeing what you can, when you can.
 
sharpygsxr said:
I fully get what your saying about making the levelling slower if you wanted it that way, i mean they added an option to turn off xp in bg's so if they had an option to reduce levelling xp i can see that being another option for people.
Click to expand...

They did? Where? I levelled nearly twice last night after a win and a lose in WSG :mad:
 
you gotta talk to one of the npc's in the bg area in your home city. Theres an option to turn off xp, think it was cuz of the amount of whining people did about their beloved twinks.

Blizzard Quote

# Battlegrounds

* Battleground experience has arrived!
o Players will now be awarded experience for completing objectives and actions that yield honor in Battlegrounds (honorable kills not included).
o Players who do not wish to gain experience through PvP can visit Behsten in Stormwind or Slahtz in Orgrimmar - both located near the Battlemasters in either city - and turn off all experience accumulation for the cost of 10 gold.
o Disabling experience gains will prevent a player from gaining experience through any means available in the game.
o Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off.
o Behsten and Slahtz can reinstate experience gains for players, for a 10 gold fee of course. Any experience that would've been accumulated if experience gains were not turned off cannot be recovered.

Seems once you disable xp in the bg it also disables it fully in pve too so you would need to enable it again if you want to level while questing.
 
Last edited:
Deadbeat said:
Well, that's no good to me. The last thing I wanna do is face off in BGs against twinks geared to the best of their level cap.
Click to expand...

You don't need to "face off" with people in a BG you just walk up to a NPC and turn off xp.

Also you're not being realistic or logical about being able to do all the quests in a zone before they turn grey/or from previous zones.
It's as if you don't want to level but also get experience at the same time and never end up going past some undetermined point you've set in your head! :S

You want slower leveling, but can't accept that you can do quests once they are too low to give decent/any xp but forget the fact you're still spending the same, wasted amount of time.
You want this false sense of achievment by a simply on screen display of gaining experience points.
Why don't you just play the game and do all the old quests?
 
Last edited:
ChrisJSY said:
You don't need to "face off" with people in a BG you just walk up to a NPC and turn off xp.
Click to expand...

Well clearly you don't have to fight for the right to turn experience gain off, but as posted above:

sharpygsxr said:
o Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off.
Click to expand...

Which means that if you choose this route, the BGs you participate in are going to be mostly filled with Lv x9 twinks who have disabled XP gain in order to remain at the top of the field without pushing in to the next bracket, all kitted out with the best gear they can buy.

ChrisJSY said:
Also you're not being realistic or logical about being able to do all the quests in a zone before they turn grey/or from previous zones.
It's as if you don't want to level but also get experience at the same time and never end up going past some undetermined point you've set in your head! :S

You want slower leveling, but can't accept that you can do quests once they are too low to give decent/any xp but forget the fact you're still spending the same, wasted amount of time.
You want this false sense of achievment by a simply on screen display of gaining experience points.
Why don't you just play the game and do all the old quests?
Click to expand...

Outlevelling a zone after doing about 1/4 of teh quests available and then completing the rest isn't really the same as covering 2/3 of a zone before you hit the upper range. I don't see how an optional slow-down of levelling gives any more false a sense of achievement than levelling from 1 - 80 within a couple of days' playtime - I just prefer taking my time in the world without feeling like I need to go elsewhere to actually progress. You're suggesting that I'd require doing every quest in a zone and still need to grind a bit before moving on, whereas I'm just looking after a happy medium. Why is that unrealistic?
 
I'm using heirlooms on my new alt because I don't want to see all the new content on this character. If i did, by the time I get to my 4th or 5th alt I'm going to be pretty sick of doing all the same quests.

I'd rather do some of a new zone, then on my next character do a different part of the zone or different quests. Some new zones I can completely skip and do them next time round.

Also, having 5 heirlooms for each spec comes in handy as Tank/Healer if i get put in a fairly high dungeon group. :)
 
I'm going to have heirlooms on my goblin also, will see the new starting area then once they bring in flying for Azeroth I will fly around having a good look at everywhere.
 
Last edited:
Anyone else really, and I mean really ****ed off with people who are exploiting to get mats/greens from new areas?

I mean, okay its a new area, but why be a douche and go there when it's not open?

On another note, finally did a bit of exploring the changed zones over the weekend. Leveling up alts is going to be a blast with new quests ahoy!
 
I have to say I did some quests in Burning steeps with my DK, I wanted to get the Tiny Flamefly pet :D Anyways even doing them quests was really good fun. Everything just joins up well the quests make sense.

Overall I think cata really is (imo) looking to be the best expansion yet. I started a troll hunter last night too and I have to say even the troll starting zone is looking really sweet. Can't wait to dive a bit futher into it. That all said with cata out next week I doubt I will get that much time to play on alts as well gotta get my main leveled and geared for raiding asap :) GM has said that all raiders must be up to 85 and geared to raid by 5th on January, which imo shouldnt be that hard to get to.
 
aye, tbh I think thats like the borderline date. Anyone who isnt by that time will get /gkicked.

Personally I hope we start sooner. tbh I think I will be 85 by end of next week. I got all of next week off so loads of time to play and get it done. Then its just going to be a matter of getting geared for raiding. We shall see how it goes. My thoughts are they once people are at the point we can raid they will get the 10man teams running asap just to give those who are lagging a bit behind to catch up before we start 25mans.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom