as i said to them in the first page, people bought these and had problems out the box, no boot, revving up fan etc etc.
And to say its down to people overclocking, flashing etc that is nonsense > i restored the original bios, i formatted windows, reinstalled windows, no utilities like afterburner open, just try to install the ccc and drivers off the cd and it errors (but will not say what the error was).
I tried removing all usb devices apart from the essential, removed all overclocks > loaded optimized defaults, still refused to install.
Now for whatever reason, i cant install any drivers for Windows 7, yet i have here Vista installed and its worked flawlessly thus far.
As Gareth said, the majority of the problems with these cards are in fact not user related, but hardware > then software. For those who cant even boot, or get the crazy fans revving up to 100% has to do with the card. And the fact that so many people have had these anomalies surely suggests its not the user, or the users computer > but the card itself!
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Ok, if you've overclocked, overvolted and flashed your card, you COULD have done damage, that won't simply be reversed by reflashing your bios. To say its nonsense, is in and of itself nonsense. You can not in any way say for certain you didn't do something yourself, though unlikely if it works in Vista, but generalising that you reflashed the old bios so it couldn't be a problem is ridiculous.
As for people with DOA cards, get over it, there is no hardware available that doesn't have units turn up DOA, again theres less threads on other cards at the moment because the majority of talk at the moment is about a new card and most people buying now are buying the 58XX's.
Again, loading optimised defaults DOES IN NO WAY MEAN ITS STABLE. Optimised defaults are NOT OPTIMISED FOR YOUR HARDWARE. They are motherboard optimised, if your memory doesn't run at "optimised/default" voltage, which 90% of ddr2/ddr3 doesn't, they you aren't running as well as you should. LIkewise you haven't mentioned 64 or 32bit windows, for Vista or Windows 7, or if theres a difference.
You really haven't made specific mention of your problems and errors, just generalisations which well doesn't let anyone see what the problem might be.
Also yes, drivercleaner is a joke, people insist they can't have errant entries in their registry and they must be purged because registries are so delicate. Then they load up a problem to delete a load of stuff and they have no clue what its actually removing, nor is it kept up to date, nor does it know if it should be deleting what it is and yes, its a KNOWN issue that CCC can often not be reinstalled after using driver cleaner.
THere could be any number of things, the newest drivers not being easy to install without the latest win 7 update, without .net being updated or newest version installed, could be ANYTHING. Considering plenty of people have it working flawlessly, as did you, as you do now on another OS, suggests to me theres no issue with the hardware at all.
