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Oh no. Gigabyte 7970 lockups in wow. I'll be returning this for a 680 methinks.

After almost two weeks of use I haven't had a single problem running any game on my 680.
Wow runs perfect.

I'm quite amazed at just how cool the card runs in comparison to the 7970. It's almost 300mhz faster and 10-25c cooler.

Peformance seems better too. Gonna try overclocking it further this weekend.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Glad to hear your issues were resolved.

You didn't buy a 680 to just play WoW though did you?
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hehe god no,

So far i've completed Arkham Asylum, Shogun total war 2 (campaign) playing Arkham City, Skyrim, Civ V, Max Payne 3(looks amazing full detail max settings) and Battlefield 3 atm.
 
Serial45 said:
hehe god no,

So far i've completed Arkham Asylum, Shogun total war 2 (campaign) playing Arkham City, Skyrim, Civ V, Max Payne 3(looks amazing full detail max settings) and Battlefield 3 atm.
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Glad you got your problem sorted and gaming is good again. Maybe it was just a duff 7970 though :(
 
spoffle said:
That's what I was getting at really. These "driver issues" some people like to talk about, are strictly the domain of forums, said by people with questionable motives. No professional website mentions how awful AMD's drivers are during reviews, because it's simply not true.
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Actually specifically for the poor crossfire performance/support, it was generally come from people that got crossfire setup...rest of the people that don't are simply quoting what they read from the end-users. And then we got some people insisting crossfire is fine, that if people that got problem it is caused by user error.

From my own experience and what I read around forums, I suspect that generally when upgrading graphic card, there wouldn't be much problem if the Nvidia driver wasn't fully removed, AMD on the other hand...using standard uninstall is not good enough, and with things leaving behind that could cause all kinds of problem when upgrading to a Nvidia, or even AMD card. And then the only solution is either get lucky with using driver sweeper, or doing a fresh install...
 
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Hmm maybe, but planning on SLIng in the future this time. And I always hear about fewer issues with SLI than crossfire.
 
Rusty0611 said:
No smoke without a fire. :p

I think the smoke comes from the fact AMD's mutli-GPU support is quite frankly poor. You only have to see some of the users on this forum to get an idea of that.

It seems to start off terrible, then just become poor, then OK and then finally a few months down the line (i.e. now) start to show some signs of real improvement.

What the problem is, is that this multi-GPU "stigma" as I shall call it translates itself one way or another into norms about driver discussions.

I don't think many people really believe that AMD's single GPU support is worse than nVidia's. Both sides will have the occasional issue but mainly it's OK. It's in the multi-GPU side of things where I think there are genuine differences in quality between the two. I'm not saying nVidia are perfect by any means but I just feel (and many others will agree) that if you're jumping into multi-GPU early on in a new cards life, then SLI is more robust than Crossfire.
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All the drivers out since December have worked in Xfire for me except Batman, which was fixed quickly. 12.8's are even better in terms of multi-gpu scaling (in BF3 anyway). Most of the Xfire errors are caused by stupid things aswell, disabling ULPS fixes many problems. But tbf if it doesn't work they shouldn't implement it.
 
Space Monkey said:
Sorry but I have to disagree, I've had 2 7970s now (both different brands) and both had enough problems over and above anything I've seen on my nvidia cards.

I really wanted to like and keep the 7970 but just couldn't for the games I play, so going back to nvidia.

Oh, and I've had them on 2 different systems, fresh windows install each time and tried different drivers :(
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You had bad cards, end of story. Me and 3 of my mates all had to return 570's because of intermittent faults which we thought was a driver issue.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Actually specifically for the poor crossfire performance/support, it was generally come from people that got crossfire setup...rest of the people that don't are simply quoting what they read from the end-users. And then we got some people insisting crossfire is fine, that if people that got problem it is caused by user error.

From my own experience and what I read around forums, I suspect that generally when upgrading graphic card, there wouldn't be much problem if the Nvidia driver wasn't fully removed, AMD on the other hand...using standard uninstall is not good enough, and with things leaving behind that could cause all kinds of problem when upgrading to a Nvidia, or even AMD card. And then the only solution is either get lucky with using driver sweeper, or doing a fresh install...
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Total BS. Only to be used if beta drivers have bad corruption. I've used the control panel install and uninstall the last 3 months and I've been switching from one card to 2 cards and no issues. People just jump straight into things like Driver Sweeper and ATIman when they're only needed sometimes.

EDIT: Sorry for 3 posts in a row, I have to learn to read to the end of a thread before replying.
 
chipachap said:
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Total BS. Only to be used if beta drivers have bad corruption. I've used the control panel install and uninstall the last 3 months and I've been switching from one card to 2 cards and no issues. People just jump straight into things like Driver Sweeper and ATIman when they're only needed sometimes.

EDIT: Sorry for 3 posts in a row, I have to learn to read to the end of a thread before replying.
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Yea...people are total BSing about their own experiences, and you sounds like one of those people that I mention blaming everything on users (which effectively calling people noobs that don't know how to do something as simple as installing and uninstallng drivers). My post was just my own analysis and quoting what I've seen people posted, with words such as "suspect" and "may be" etc...getting so worked out about it just put you across as a fanboy. Just because you have no problem, it doesn't mean it applies for everyone else; it is like you bought a product and it is perfectly fine after 2 years of usage, where as someone else got the same product, and it stop working after using a month, you claim it must be something messed up on their part when using that product. Things are not as simply one size fit all in this world.

Personally I wouldn't recommend using things like driver sweeper, as while it can help some lucky soul by chance that fixed the problems that they got (the OP of this thread for example), it equally has as much chance on making the problems worse, making a problem that might have been fixable via other means into big problem that can't be resolved without reinstalling the Windows.
 
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Allot of people went to the nvidia forums when they had a problem with nvidia drivers, people also referred to nvidia, when showing people (new buyers) the problems nvidia were having e.g. The stutter fest, bugs, broken sli and many-many other problems. So, what was nvidia`s answer to all of this (e.g. users linking to nvidia forums), well, nvidia panicked and left everyone in the cold, shut down their forums. People said "it was hacked" and some said "nvidia is no hurry to bring their forums online" or whatever, but i would say, it was very convenient in favour of nvidia, the so called hacking that is, i just hope people left out to dry learn from this.

"We are continuing to complete work on strengthening security for the NVIDIA Forums.
We expect to bring this site back online soon. Thanks for your patience" nvidia

What a joke right? anyone want a bet, that nvidia will wipe the forums clean bcoz it got soo bad or had nvidia allowed the forums to continue, it would have got publicly rap*d.
 
Why don`t you go to nvidia forums before you start throwing conspiracy theories propaganda out..

Oh sorry, i forgot - there is no gfx nvidia forums lol


Edit: btw, i just hit 100 posts :)
 
You still sound like it.

AMD moderate their forums to remove any bad postings about their drivers.

They're both as bad as each other.
 
At-least AMD have a forum.

I only posted this to let OP know that AMD is nothing like most make them out to be vs nvidia.

Nvidia have been well known for playing really dirty tactics e.g. taking forums offline so people cant complain anymore...wow, thats what i call blatant, in your face dude ;)

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2099561.jpg

Would you not think, forums are a priority for people to express their feedback (bugs-stutter) etc, not for nvidia it isn't, seems, they rather not know lol. just saying
 
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OK AMD fanboy. Back in your cage.

Bad.... as.... each other.

It's not like there's a million other forums which have thousands of users to raise awareness of any issues. Oh wait...

I'm not saying they shouldn't have a forum I'm just saying your point of view is ridiculous.
 
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Rusty0611 said:
OK AMD fanboy. Back in your cage.

Bad.... as.... each other.

It's not there's a million other forums which have thousands of users to raise awareness of any issues.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have a forum I'm just saying your point of view is ridiculous.
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Look, why are you getting all butt hurt? I only stated facts about nvidia forum being down, or why its been down sooo long... maybe, you can explain for us, since we cant tell from nvidia`s ass from your head.

Edit: people are getting angry, that forum needs to come online asap, and should be as it was, with all posts intact...now run along and make sure it happens lol
 
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