OK I can't take it any more * Ford 1.4 TDCI tuning help*

Cheers TaKeN, that a lot of help. Thank you.

Ive always kind of felt the engine has been deliberately retarded, as in the 1st and 2nd it feels quite promising. It certainly seems to have a lot of potential 1.4 TD kind of way of course.

I take it not many people here have used plug-in EC mods.

Promising in a 'if I spend thousands on this engine but I may as well not bother and get something more powerful' way...
 

Yes I know too...

Well I probably wouldn't have to do a lot of loom splicing, their are ways round it. But even if I did it would be unlikely any mechanic would start to strip the loom.

Seriously? You are worried about your warranty and you still think this is all a good idea after admitting you'll need to cut up the loom. What are you going to do, re-splice everything every time it needs a service or goes in for warranty work.

Can we stop feeding the troll now?
 
No offence but how old are you?

I just can't comprehend how you can't understand the futility of trying to tune such a pony engine using such an elaborate tuning method.

Answer the question: Why don't you just buy a better car than trying to make this car something it isn't and will never be?

No offence to you, but why don't you go boil your head in a bag :p

Have you never tuned a car to make it faster ?
 
Yes I know too...

Well I probably wouldn't have to do a lot of loom splicing, their are ways round it. But even if I did it would be unlikely any mechanic would start to strip the loom.

Problem is you really don't seem to, as ever with OCUK threads the op ends up trying to educate those who try and help by pretending he knows best.

Have you never tuned a car to make it faster ?

LOLZ, you do know what he owns right....

Yes a 1.0 micra......
 
Have you never tuned a car to make it faster ?

Ah, you've got me there.

I guess this is why I can't understand it. You see, I just drive an old Mitsubishi. Very slow, very heavy and just has this lethargic old 2.0 litre powering it.

I just don't see the point in modifying cars. What's the point in a 4.4 second 0-60 and a 12 second quarter mile? Whats the point in having a car that can do the nurburgring in less than 8 minutes 11 seconds?

Guess I'll never know. I'm the type of guy who appreciates 4 doors to get the kids in and a large boot for the golf clubs.
 
OP asks advice, rejects this advice, OP claims superiority, rinse and repeat.

Not all, people seem to be getting a little upset because I mentioned using a proper programmable ECU to improve a 1.4TD.

I can't quite understand why people find this such an outrageous scenario.
 
Because its a waste of time when you can buy a handheld unit to achieve the results you want for less than £400 FFS.
 
Not all, people seem to be getting a little upset because I mentioned using a proper programmable ECU to improve a 1.4TD.

I can't quite understand why people find this such an outrageous scenario.

Would you feed a homeless person champagne and caviar as his first proper meal in 5 years or would a burger and chips do exactly the same job but be 100x cheaper.

I have a tuned 1.4, I spent £380 taking it from 150bhp to 180bhp, not thousands taking it from 60bhp to 90bhp.

With this size engine £/bhp is vital, otherwise you're just throwing away money for no reason.
 
Because its a waste of time when you can buy a handheld unit to achieve the results you want for less than £400 FFS.

Is that not one of the options in my opening post :)


I'm thinking of maybe a Motec programmable ECU, a custom exhaust / air filter and a decent remap should make huge difference, but I have also seen some piggy back type ECU's promising some decent gains for sub £350 but I'm a little cautious as they seem to use a generic setup.

Anyone have any experience with tuning this engine ?

Cheers,
Jigger
 
Not all, people seem to be getting a little upset because I mentioned using a proper programmable ECU to improve a 1.4TD.

I can't quite understand why people find this such an outrageous scenario.

Makes as much sense as me wanting to put a cold air feed, a SS manifold, exhaust and all other sorts that I dreamed up to put on my 1.4 Astra. When I was 17.
 
Then why are you talking about third party management and splicing engine looms.

BTW, Does this Motec ECU you speak of support canbus?
 
Then why are you talking about third party management and splicing engine looms.

BTW, Does this Motec ECU you speak of support canbus?

I'm not, I mentioned Motec ( as Ive used them a few times in the past and been very happy ) as an option, and ten people seemed to want to discuss the potential problems, and argue the finer points some of which that I don't agree with.
 
I can see people throwing toys out of prams left right n centre yet the op seems perfectly willing to listen to reasonable advice whilst at the same time fully exhausting his options regarding tuning. Don't quite understand the level of outrage myself.
It's pretty simple for most people. A) I own this car. B) I want to see what I can do, within reason, to improve this car. C) exhausted options, oh well keep it till something more to my liking turns up.
Just that between B and C you have the OMG DOOOOM! chaps an chapesses. Give the op the time to get to C at his own speed (relatively slowly it's only a 1.4 :P )

I don't know that particular lump but if it performed like a 4pot vag 1.9 with 90bhp(standard) after a tune it'd definitely be worth it in something so light but then I can't see the ford lump being enjoyable with it's neck wrung further than it's standard tune with it being half a litre behind to start with (have to use vag comparison as my experience of ford diesels is nil).

Good luck op, I suspect you'll probably end up at conclusion C but at least you'll know a lot more about your options when you get there :)
 
I'm not, I mentioned Motec ( as Ive used them a few times in the past and been very happy ) as an option, and ten people seemed to want to discuss the potential problems, and argue the finer points some of which that I don't agree with.

At the end of the day its your decision but people are putting forward valuable arguments that for the power gains which you will receive (presuming you have the 68bhp DLD engine) you'd be better up saving your money and putting it towards a car which is slightly faster.
 
Can't believe this ford 1.4 turbo produces no horsepower? my 1.6n/a made 50! what is the turbo doing, ahhhhh yeah reducing soot aka nothing. Get a better engine OP, in a better car!

Don't believe you have any strong emotional ties to this car anyway, sell it!
 
Can't believe this ford 1.4 turbo produces no horsepower? my 1.6n/a made 50! what is the turbo doing, ahhhhh yeah reducing soot aka nothing. Get a better engine OP, in a better car!

Don't believe you have any strong emotional ties to this car anyway, sell it!

LOL, I don't really mind the car, it has some good points and I'm not stuck with it all the time. If I did sell it I still need a small very economical car that's a bit quicker. A cloaking device and something like a 535td would be the perfect solution to my problem.

Its more the way the gearing is set, and the narrow power band that's the problem TBH. I have a feeling the gear box has been designed to cover a wide range of models, as at points it kind of gives you a little hope.
But if you want to overtake a wagon at 50, on an A road with an incline you can do it in two ways, Slowly with a lot of noise and smoke, or slowly with less noise and smoke. If it could just keep making a little power into the the higher end of the 3000 rev range it would be expectable.

I'll have a look at the engine setup and see what I can do. Maybe I can do something with the actuator to keep the boost on a little longer.
 
Back
Top Bottom