'On yer bike' says Boris...
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We used to have a massive leisure centre here in burnley but the new one doesn't even have a diving pool. A step backwards imho. We need some better facilities.
How much volume does the tin of tomatoes lose when you cook it?
If it loses a third, then the end product is going to contain about the same amount of sugar per 100g as the pre-made sauce.
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There is added sugar in the sauce, it's listed in the ingredients. A few extra grams doesn't hurt too much but I suppose if your not making anything yourself the added sugar would start to add up a a bit.
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There is indeed. But it isn't going to be much. Tomatoes (80%) and Bacon (10%) leave 10% split between all of the other ingredients.
Though that wasn't the point. It's false to assume that just because the sauce contains more sugar per 100g than a tin of tomatoes, a home-made sauce will be better. The amount of sugar per 100g of finished sauce will depend greatly on how much water is cooked out of the sauce. You can easily cook a tin of tomatoes down to 1/3rd of its original volume (particularly if it's a cheaper, more watery tin). That would roughly triple the amount of sugar per 100g.
It works the other way too. You could leave the sauce quite wet and have comparatively little sugar per 100g vs a pre-made sauce. But it won't taste great. This is why mass-produced sauces tend to contain sugar (and other flavour enhancers). Cooking things down properly takes time, and means the same quantity of raw ingredients doesn't go as far. It's cheaper to cook the product less and just add things to improve the flavour and texture.
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I love how we've gone from cycling to talking about a specific pot of Sainsburys pasta sauce. 
Somebody else should try it next time they make a Bolognese and give me some feedback vs their own sauce.
Somebody else should try it next time they make a Bolognese and give me some feedback vs their own sauce.
It's easy not to be fat. First work out your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate, Google it), then add in any activity you do, that gives you a base line for how many calories you need to maintain your weight each day. Subtract 500 or 20% from this. Then you go to the super market and read the labels or use Myfitnesspal, plan your meals out so you're eating 500 or 20% less than your BMR each day, make sure you include everything including the milk in your tea and the butter on your bread, etc. If you do this along with a bit of exercise then magically over time you'll lose weight. If you lift weights and eat a fairly high protein diet (1.5g-2g of Protein per kg of bodyweight at least) then you'll also gain some muscle. Don't go below 40-50g of fats because you need those in your diet for hormone production. Also make sure you treat yourself at least once a week, allow yourself a cheat meal while being sensible (not a full days binge on pizza, chocolate and alcohol) - this will give you something to look forward to after a long week of keeping to your calories and exercising. That's what I do and I weigh about 11 stone 3lbs and I'm fairly strong (185kg Deadlift for example). I spend maybe 20-30 minutes a day lifting weights 5-6x a week.
I don't really get this, happy for it to be explained. From a non-educated point of view, losing weight is using more calories than you consume. It's what I've been living by over the last year or so and has worked very well. How can using twice as many calories be 'bugger all'?
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You have to be careful with calories burned during exercise, it's usually wildly off and it's over estimating as well. The best way is to set a calorie target then use exercise to supplement the deficit don't go off the calories burned on your machine, app etc as it will more than likely say you have burned more than you actually have. It's a very rough guide not to be taken as gospel.
Back when the BBC did comedy
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Most people are not that strong willed.
What?! Exercise does bugger all for weight loss?!
Do not listen to this man.
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So a complete lifestyle change is easy for people?
You find those things easy as it's your routine and your used to doing it. As for the normal public they could never commit to that in one go. It's about small steps to get a better/healthier lifestyle.
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Plus most diets are complete tosh, and no-one ever sticks to them.
It doesn't really matter what you eat, as long as it's balanced (and the bad stuff is in moderation).
I have a fair bit of respect for Joe Wicks, as he practices what he preaches, and openly enjoys alcohol and snacks/chocolate etc.......in moderation. That's the way it should be done.
If you just stick to steamed spinach for the rest of your life, you won't last 2 days before going mad!
It doesn't really matter what you eat, as long as it's balanced (and the bad stuff is in moderation).
I have a fair bit of respect for Joe Wicks, as he practices what he preaches, and openly enjoys alcohol and snacks/chocolate etc.......in moderation. That's the way it should be done.
If you just stick to steamed spinach for the rest of your life, you won't last 2 days before going mad!
can have exercises that increase your metabolism, so, calories in, is not a panacea, to loosing weight;
let alone the other health benefits of exercise.
moreover fixing your bike https://www.gov.uk/guidance/fix-your-bike-voucher-scheme-register-as-a-bike-repairer
subsidising leisure centre access, for a start , would be more efficient.
let alone the other health benefits of exercise.
moreover fixing your bike https://www.gov.uk/guidance/fix-your-bike-voucher-scheme-register-as-a-bike-repairer
so you can't buy the components and diy.
subsidising leisure centre access, for a start , would be more efficient.
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No! 'Off yer bike!', unless you want to die, as according to IDS, you've got more chance of dying on a bike, than you have of COVID.
As above, I'm 5'9 and weigh 65kg so not exactly looking to lose weight at all. But we have his 'Fresh Start' book and it's awesome. Really good every-day recipes that for us, just happen to be relatively healthy. It gets more use than our Jamie books currently.
I don't see why your'e arguing this. You know as well as anyone else that for a vast variety of reasons, homemade will always be better. Ingredients, processing, the fact the sauce has already been cooked so has probably lost most of it's nutrition anyway. It's just a fact of life, and the sooner people (whether or not they're struggling with weight) accept they should be able to knock together a red pasta sauce from scratch the sooner we will cease to be a nation of 63% fatties.
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I was holding out for this before buying bits to get my bike back into shape. Seems pointless. The repair shops round here start at £50 for a service and I'm sure apopointments will be like gold dust. Can't be faffed, I'm off to buy some new tyres and tubes 
Where's the life style change? I finish work and do my 30mins of exercise then make my dinner, which is planned out in advance before I went out and bought the food. Like obviously you need some discipline, but you take things 1 day at a time, before you know it you've been at it for a month, then 3 months, and gradually you're happier with how your clothes fit, happy with your weight loss, and more confident in how you look. I do not find it easy to not eat chocolate every day and eat whatever I want for dinner trust me, I'm not special, I was a chubby kid at school, now I'm in better shape and stronger than most of the lads who played Rugby etc. Anyone can do it.
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You can't outrun a bad diet.
It takes an hour of running flat out to burn off 1 snickers bar.
Now let's say you eat 2 snickers as snacks every day. That's 2 hours of running flat out to burn them off.
Basically diet is the most important factor because if you are eating crap it doesn't really matter unless you are spending 12 hours a day in the gym then obviously you need calories.
Diet is the most important factor. You could get a 6 pack without doing any exercise at all.
But you cannot burn off a crap diet and have a 6 pack by spending an hour in the gym every other day.