Soldato
Yep, works a charm for surface mould.
One for the landlords - mould
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I've not assumed you are lying. Pretty lame of you to say so tbh:
There you go 3 times at least I have said you need to find out what the causation is before suggesting it is someone else's fault and trying to find a way to take money of them.
I bothered to try and help going to the extent to digging out my contract to give you the exact wording of the relevant clause and all you can do accuse me of assuming you are lying when in fact I've done nothing of the sort.
You clearly haven't thought this through at all and were obviously just looking to make easy money. Well there is no easy money in this world. Now you are on here looking for methods to penalise someone else for your own shortsightedness.
I'll of course take all this back if you can show two things:
1) Where I said there was no mould in the place - rather than what I think I said you have no way of proving that.
2) That I said you are at fault - other than you need to rectify it either way because it's your property.
TBH it's people like you who shouldn't be landlords because you give the rest of us a bad name. You haven't thought something through at all and then are trying to punish others for you bad decision making. I've said throughout that the tenants need to abide by good housekeeping but the landlord needs to take control of structural problems - you haven't bothered to have the later assessed yet you are just presuming nothing has changed with the windows, the ventilation, the outside structure etc.
And that paint will come off if wiped down enough and mould will still grow on it - so will need reapplying periodically ...
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Soldato
Jesus christ Xordium, get off your high horse.
In all of his posts in the first page, he says that he wants to find out whats causing it and that he's trying to be a fair landlord.
It's pretty obvious from what he's said that it's almost certainly a result of their behaviour that mould is now occuring. It would be pretty coincidental for structural related mould to start after 7 years, as soon as the property's residents changed.
You're right that ultimately it is his responsibility as it's his property, but if it's the result of the tenants behaviour then it's only fair that some of the cost of rectifying it should be passed onto them (whether that's taken from their deposit or directly requested). Landlords get a lot of stick, and some of them deserve it, but often tenants are just as bad.
In all of his posts in the first page, he says that he wants to find out whats causing it and that he's trying to be a fair landlord.
It's pretty obvious from what he's said that it's almost certainly a result of their behaviour that mould is now occuring. It would be pretty coincidental for structural related mould to start after 7 years, as soon as the property's residents changed.
You're right that ultimately it is his responsibility as it's his property, but if it's the result of the tenants behaviour then it's only fair that some of the cost of rectifying it should be passed onto them (whether that's taken from their deposit or directly requested). Landlords get a lot of stick, and some of them deserve it, but often tenants are just as bad.
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Several times you've assumed straight off that when I've said there was no mould previously, this couldn't possibly be right. That certainly sounds like you think I'm lying to me.
I'll say it again, simpler for you so perhaps you can understand it. Not once have we thought it would be easy money. Simple enough for you?
You've ignored the part where the agency have gone in and checked things for some reason (I'm not for a second suggesting that this is as effective as a structural survey). We've had the heating power flushed, the boiler serviced - outside of its annual regular check, and an electrician in to check the ventilation is working as it should be. So to say we haven't "bothered" doing anything is rude and insulting. But no. You carry on telling me how bad I am for trying to make a quick buck whilst doing fa about it!
Lets try again, baby steps for you. I'll ask it hypothetically, since you can't seem to get off your high horse whilst enjoying the opportunity to tell me how bad a landlord I am.
In a situation completely unrelated to the OP, if the tenants could be proved to be at fault, is it unreasonable to expect them to contribute towards cleaning it up?
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extractor fans work better than windows for removing damp air btw and preventing mould build up.
Soldato
LeeUK comes across as someone you wouldnt want to rent to.
It's OK, I own my own property, and if I do sell up and rent, I'll be looking for social housing over a private landlord anyday.
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OP - if it is all such a hassle, then sell it.
OP - if it is all such a hassle, then sell it.
Firstly. I love that this is your first reaction. Quick, can I take their money now or later!? Typical landlord response, without waiting to hear the full story from your tenants.
Poor you. What if it's quite serious mould that they haven't caused themselves and that might have damaged, or be damaging their health? What if they were too worried to contact you because they thought you'd react the way you have in the first instance? What if they've suffered in silence and tried every possible remedy before contacting you. Honestly, just step back, use a bit of common sense and remember you're talking about people and their home here. And yes, it's their home whilst they pay the rent. Not yours.
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So many landlords think they can simultaneously cream the tenants for rent and expect them to pay the costs of running dehumidifiers/heating at levels they did while in the depths of winter etc... . If they want the latter then they best reduce the former accordingly. There is only so much a tenant is going to spend from their incomes on a property they get zero return from come selling time. If landlords can't accept that, they should hold out with voids for these mythical tenants that will or sell the property.
So many landlords think they can simultaneously cream the tenants for rent and expect them to pay the costs of running dehumidifiers/heating at levels they did while in the depths of winter etc... . If they want the latter then they best reduce the former accordingly. There is only so much a tenant is going to spend from their incomes on a property they get zero return from come selling time. If landlords can't accept that, they should hold out with voids for these mythical tenants that will or sell the property.
I think Xordium speaks a lot of sense. Tennants and Landlords need to work together on things like this to discover the ultimate source of the moisture.
Fortunately when we reported some damp patches and condensation to our agent they responded pretty quickly. They sent our a specialist who investigated the walls inside and out measuring the moisture content. As it turns out there was a suspect damp course in one area which was injected (I believe, he lost me a little). The condensation has mostly been improved by the LL getting the cavities insulated. They also cleared some of the leaky guttering.
For all of the people saying "well just turn the heat up" or "open a window".. All of the issues above were still present whilst trying to maintain a good house temperature (which cost us a small fortune prior to the cavity fix) and running a dehumidifier (which we purchased ourselves) while drying clothes or cracking a window (no trickle vents).
edit - for what it's worth I've been a landlord and a tennant so no "hate" here.
Fortunately when we reported some damp patches and condensation to our agent they responded pretty quickly. They sent our a specialist who investigated the walls inside and out measuring the moisture content. As it turns out there was a suspect damp course in one area which was injected (I believe, he lost me a little). The condensation has mostly been improved by the LL getting the cavities insulated. They also cleared some of the leaky guttering.
For all of the people saying "well just turn the heat up" or "open a window".. All of the issues above were still present whilst trying to maintain a good house temperature (which cost us a small fortune prior to the cavity fix) and running a dehumidifier (which we purchased ourselves) while drying clothes or cracking a window (no trickle vents).
edit - for what it's worth I've been a landlord and a tennant so no "hate" here.
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Soldato
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Only rich people can afford a dryer?
maybe a little bit sensational but not everyone has the income to buy and/or run another appliance. condensing dryers are the thick end of £200, and that's a cheap model (poor energy rating etc).
plus rented accommodation often have pre-installed white goods anyway and/or no room for extra appliances.