Original Starcraft 2 Thread

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 00:22

SheepBeast said:
:/ what year you living in? 1960 or 2012?

Living in the year of Logic actually XD
He was born a male and he wants to be female. I accept he's free to do so but that doesn't make him a female.

SheepBeast said:
Wasn't even close. Huk wasn't playing so great. MC vs Stephano next. I'm gonna be alternative and predict a Stephano win.

That's not alternative, it could go either way tbh XD
MC has been on multiple continents in the past month or so. He's gotta be tired.

Plus these last 2 games have been utter BS. It shows how Zerg is broken. 'O you killed my whole army? I'll make 100 lings so you better be able to kill them too'
-_- Production capabilities are just too much. You can't have a Toss with 50 gateways in a normal game or 50 rax.

Slinkie · 15 Jul 2012 at 00:36

Dragon is such a legend, enjoy this.

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 00:42

Dragon is so fun to watch XD

Too bad he's not that good but I hope he'll get past just being an entertaining player one day.

SheepBeast · 15 Jul 2012 at 01:35

Slinkie said:
Dragon is such a legend, enjoy this.

<3 dragon

Kamwah said:
Living in the year of Logic actually XD
He was born a male and he wants to be female. I accept he's free to do so but that doesn't make him a female.

You do realise that there is a difference between sex and gender? And even aside from that, it's just plain obnoxious and rude to continually refer to someone as male when they've made it clear they want to be identified as female.

Plus these last 2 games have been utter BS. It shows how Zerg is broken. 'O you killed my whole army? I'll make 100 lings so you better be able to kill them too'
-_- Production capabilities are just too much. You can't have a Toss with 50 gateways in a normal game or 50 rax.

Well, IMO toss front loaded warp in is more imba than Zerg's larvae mechanic.

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 02:13

I don't care what Scarlett wants, I realize there is a difference but I do not care. Black and White view = Scarlett is a guy
Plus if that's what he wanted then he shouldn't have come out with something that personal because it really shouldn't mean anything to us.

Both of them are pretty imbalanced. I've lost all my TvZs today, I've been playing my usual style and it's just not working. There is no way to have enough siege tanks to secure a third in mech play before Zerg goes to hive and 4+ bases.
It's just incredibly stupid how the matchup is.

SheepBeast · 15 Jul 2012 at 12:40

Kamwah said:
I don't care what Scarlett wants, I realize there is a difference but I do not care.

Not sure how you can justify this. In fact, I'm sure you can't.

If you're sitting having dinner and someone asks you to pass the salt, I assume you wouldn't, because you dont care what they want? You wouldn't hold a door open for an old lady?

It's basic manners.

Alex74 · 15 Jul 2012 at 14:01

Kamwah said:
...Both of them are pretty imbalanced. I've lost all my TvZs today, I've been playing my usual style and it's just not working. There is no way to have enough siege tanks to secure a third in mech play before Zerg goes to hive and 4+ bases.
It's just incredibly stupid how the matchup is.

More or less stupid than TvP?

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 16:58

SheepBeast said:
Not sure how you can justify this. In fact, I'm sure you can't.

If you're sitting having dinner and someone asks you to pass the salt, I assume you wouldn't, because you dont care what they want? You wouldn't hold a door open for an old lady?

It's basic manners.

That's completely different. If someone asks me to call a giraffe a hippo then I'm not going to because it's not.

The same way Scarlett is a male therefore why would I call him a female? It makes no sense.
Just because you're willing to accept calling something it is not because that person wants you and I'm not doesn't mean I'm rude and obnoxious.
These kind of people aren't doing anything illegal so why should they care what someone else thinks?

Just to add I don't think we should argue about this here, it's way offtopic and we obviously have different opinions. No need to argue about it.

Alex74 said:
More or less stupid than TvP?

Pretty much near enough the same. They are pretty much the same mechanics wise except Zerg has the larva mechanic which is worse lol.

SheepBeast · 15 Jul 2012 at 19:13

Kamwah said:
Just to add I don't think we should argue about this here, it's way offtopic and we obviously have different opinions. No need to argue about it.

You're being deliberately antagonistic, don't expect me to ignore it.

frankmcg · 15 Jul 2012 at 19:25

Alex74 said:
More or less stupid than TvP?

Both stupid matchups. Can't win either unless I do big damage before the 10 min mark either with with a stim marine hellion push to kill z's typical 5 min 3rd expo, or with the 2 rax marine/maurader to kill P's expo around the 6 min mark. If I don't manage either of those I basically lose even if the game goes on another 10 mins!

And yes I did come back to play a few games after "quitting", but I did't enjoy it!

likely going down to plat soon

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 19:33

SheepBeast said:
You're being deliberately antagonistic, don't expect me to ignore it.

No. All I did was refer to a male as a 'he'.
If I was being deliberately antagonistic I could have said "I can't believe he got beaten by a confused tranny who obviously isn't in the right mind"

frankmcg said:
Both stupid matchups. Can't win either unless I do big damage before the 10 min mark either with with a stim marine hellion push to kill z's typical 5 min 3rd expo, or with the 2 rax marine/maurader to kill P's expo around the 6 min mark. If I don't manage either of those I basically lose even if the game goes on another 10 mins!

And yes I did come back to play a few games after "quitting", but I did't enjoy it! likely going down to plat soon

I played a TvZ yesterday and I killed 40 workers before the 15min mark with 2 blue-flame hellion runbys and it was still a close game. =/

SheepBeast · 15 Jul 2012 at 21:40

Kamwah said:
No. All I did was refer to a male as a 'he'.
If I was being deliberately antagonistic I could have said "I can't believe he got beaten by a confused tranny who obviously isn't in the right mind"

Ok. From now on I'll refer to you by the name "********". I don't care if you'd rather be called something else.

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 21:56

SheepBeast said:
Ok. From now on I'll refer to you by the name "********". I don't care if you'd rather be called something else.

You're being childish just because my opinion isn't the same as yours.
I find it hilarious how people like yourself defend it to the death.

I can tell you're going to be one of those people who won't drop it because you've got to be a keyboard warrior for gay/bi/trans rights all over the internet so I'll just block you to save you the hassle.

SheepBeast · 15 Jul 2012 at 23:33

Kamwah said:
You're being childish just because my opinion isn't the same as yours.
I find it hilarious how people like yourself defend it to the death.

I can tell you're going to be one of those people who won't drop it because you've got to be a keyboard warrior for gay/bi/trans rights all over the internet so I'll just block you to save you the hassle.

Ok so I'm being childish because I'm not afraid to voice my opinion that we should respect Scarletts wishes. You're of course being the mature one here. I cba arguing with you but no doubt any others reading this thread can make up their own minds. If you don't want to argue with me again then don't refer to Scarlett as male or otherwise behave like a douchebag. I'm not being a keyboard warrior, I do the same in real life is someone is behaving like an *******. If no one points it out to them then these people may start to think their behaviour is acceptable in modern society (which you're a part of whether you like it or not). Let's consider the matter settled.

On another note, I lol'ed @ MC: ("who do you think's gonna win") "stephano because zerg is so OP right now"

HankScorpio · 15 Jul 2012 at 23:40

Shocking comments from Kamwah. Do you know how much discrimination and violent, as well as verbal abuse that transgenders face? Which is what you're doing believe it or not. Many often commit suicide as a result of bigots not accepting their decision, as some people feel its up to them how others should live their lives.

I think you should be very careful what you say in this day and age as most people, myself included will not tolerate being in the company of morons who think it's ok to bully and discriminate against other people for no reason other than to announce their own shortcomings.

Kamwah · 15 Jul 2012 at 23:43

All I'm going to say is please refer to me as a God from now on because you seem to want to please everyones deluded wishes and Science tells us that Scarlett is a male therefore he will be referred to as a he.
That is not being a douchebag, that is being truthful. You can cluck like a chicken or **** in the yard like a dog but your'e still a human!

Zerg is OP but so is Toss lol. He's just lucky he doesn't play Terran.

HankScorpio said:
Shocking comments from Kamwah. Do you know how much discrimination and violent, as well as verbal abuse that transgenders face? Which is what you're doing believe it or not. Many often commit suicide as a result of bigots not accepting their decision, as some people feel its up to them how others should live their lives.

I think you should be very careful what you say in this day and age as most people, myself included will not tolerate being in the company of morons who think it's ok to bully and discriminate against other people for no reason other than to announce their own shortcomings.

I'm not discrimining and it's not verbal abuse. I do not believe that they shouldn't have any of the rights that anyone else has but I'm against how they fight for society to accept them completely because people have the right to their own opinions and some of them are going to be negative. I don't condone abuse be it phyiscal or verbal against anyone.

And again it's not bullying, if Scarlett wants me to respect his decision that he wants to be a girl then he should accept my decision that I'm not going to refer to him as one. It works both ways.

Just to add, I understand discrimination. Growing up in the UK and being verbally abused because I'm Chinese has always been an annoyance of my life. I understand a lot of them go through a lot of hardship but so does everyone else.

HankScorpio · 15 Jul 2012 at 23:55

Slinkie said:
Dragon is such a legend, enjoy this.

Ha that's awesome

Yeah Sheep, Also the fact that Stephano is playing like a boss. Seen some toss pushing out some pretty big wins vs zerg so they're not that OP, Stephano just holds everything so well, hardly seen him under pressure. (pushing those DTS off the hive kill was imba with drones)

Oh ZvZzzzzzzzz next.....

Naff8000 · 15 Jul 2012 at 23:55

"Wheres all the terrans gone?"

"they had it coming..."

Dist · 16 Jul 2012 at 00:26

Kamwah said:
Science tells us that Scarlett is a male therefore he will be referred to as a he.

If you are going to bring science into it, although some biologically aspects may mean she is born a male, brain scans have proven that transgendered people often have brain that is biologically closer to what they believe they truly are.

Kamwah · 16 Jul 2012 at 00:31

Dist said:
If you are going to bring science into it, although some biologically aspects may mean she is born a male, brain scans have proven that transgendered people often have brain that is biologically closer to what they believe they truly are.

But science always will show that Scarlett is a guy.

Always > Often

I'm not against trans, they can do whatever they want but don't get ****ed when I refuse to enjoy your logical fallacy.

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