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not much point early game, a lot of others would disagree and go stim or whatever, but if you wanna end early just pure numbers will always be better then a perk here or there that youv spent a lot of gas and minerals on. (wheras you could have got 6+ marines for the same price it costs to go stim)
naturally if the game is going some distance you need to get stim and shields and then weapons/armour level 1 at least but i normally leave w/a1 off bio units and upgrade whatever vehicle tech i have.
your downfall tbh is probably 1) not constantly producing suvs and 2) your build order and timings.
all comes with practice.
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I can understand how SC becomes so addictive I've been reading up and thinking about difference strats for the past week, I'm not a geek in the slightest, in fact I don't really play many games at all but this has reignited my 10 year + love of SC from when I was a wee lad.
Just hope the g/friend doesn't find me maniacally tapping away at my macro in a darkened room...
Just hope the g/friend doesn't find me maniacally tapping away at my macro in a darkened room...
I can understand how SC becomes so addictive I've been reading up and thinking about difference strats for the past week, I'm not a geek in the slightest, in fact I don't really play many games at all but this has reignited my 10 year + love of SC from when I was a wee lad.
Just hope the g/friend doesn't find me maniacally tapping away at my macro in a darkened room...
Mine found me... turned around and left me there ^^
Think this is why i love it so much! holds so much nostalgia for me after playing the first game religiously for years, it would be rude not to do the same with this one
Well she did find me one evening playing the SP side whilst I was meant to be 'working' and she just asked "what's that" ... screwed her face up a little because she didn't understand and buggered off. That'll do for me.
Passes the time in the week, but come the weekend it's beer o'clock.
Passes the time in the week, but come the weekend it's beer o'clock.
It can't be used for ladder, but only custom games. which makes sence really, it prevents ladder abuse.
to add somebody click on the friends icon thingy at the bottom right. then you can click add friend.
You get two options, RealID friend (you need their battlenet email address) and a character ID friend (where you jsut need the character name, and the number ID)
so to add me, you want to click on the button, add character ID friend (or something similar) and then just type in the top box 'Luxotican' and then '425' in the bottom box.. then just talk to me and i'll add you back!
Quite a few 3 rax builds get an early Engineering Bay and get the 1st weapons upgrade. Can make a huge difference in early battles, particularly when it's TvT.
You can only check your opponents profile after the match has ended. Left click on their name and select View Profile. Took me about 3 weeks to figure that out!
EDIT: Yeah, hover your mouse cursor over your Avatar when in the game menu's and your three digit number will display.
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Also, anyone see the GSL ro64 brackets? Nada and Boxer in the same bracket. TLO vs SangHo first round. :O
SangHo was a very good, a-team BW player. Nobody really knows how much he's been playing SC2. Hopefully not a lot though so TLO can advance.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160514
You can add me if you want - scott_evertonfc at hotmail.co.uk
SangHo was a very good, a-team BW player. Nobody really knows how much he's been playing SC2. Hopefully not a lot though so TLO can advance.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160514
You can add me if you want - scott_evertonfc at hotmail.co.uk
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Is a pure Marine based army with upgrades a viable option or is that a bit newb?
Perhaps throw in a load of Medivacs to chew up the gas?
I'm just thinking of ways to improve my micro by keeping builds and attacks to basics.
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Lots of marines early on is pretty good. But after 5-6 minutes you need to include something else, marines die too quickly to higher tech.
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you never really want to go one unit army....just think that if you did that against zerg all they would need is banelings and you would be destroyed in about 10 seconds.
the whole point of the 3 rax marine push into late orbital/factory is to get a good basic army out and see what happens without any crap added on...its stupidly effective against P especially if they decide to tech up (this is where you need to be clever and hide your other rax if they scout) as their ground army will be limited. but you would do the push and whilst its happening get your factory/star-port up and go into 'stage 2' of the game so to speak.
the good thing about marines is that they dont cost gas and as such dont limit your tech tree build up early on (unlike say maruaders) and as long as your producing suv's all the time your economy will be stable.
my starter builds normally go:
9 depot
12 rax
14 rax
15 depot
17 rax
then gas more depots around 20. basically by the time your first rax is done your second one is half way completed and when thats finished you should be building your 3rd
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i think.. if you click on the add a friend button, it displays your number in that menu, or one of the menus off that
Level as in league? Im in Diamond. you can find out once you've played or added them. just left/right click on their name, then view profile.. that takes you to their main splash page where you can see their games p[layed in 1v1 - 4v4
as said before, its viable to start with, at least for the first couple of mins, especially if you keep them all bunched up, they can be quite potent.
Later on however you'll need to start adding marauders and upgrades and maybe move onto mech.
Zerg have a lot at their disposal in their early tech tree to shred marines into tiny tiny bits.. Banelings, Roaches, Zerglings when surrounded.
Is it wise to build 3 barracks without having any gas to construct addons for them? and when you do have the addons you don't have the gas to upgrade or build any T 1.5 units?
I don't see any reason to delay your Orbital Command, unless im missing something? sure it gives you your 2nd rax about 20-30 seconds quicker, but you don't have the economy to pump units out then.
Personally i prefer a build like this:
10 Depot
12 Barracks
13 Refinery
15 Orbital Command
16 Supply
That leaves you with between 25-50 gas to instantly put an addon to your barracks, be it reactor or tech lab. Also giving you better economy because you can actually use your first MULE isntead of being forced to scan.
This build is quite flexible too, as you can lay down another gas or stick down a couple more barracks. depending on if you want to tech or pump out some aggression.
Not really, you need Maurauders in there too.
The 3 rax build isn't really an all-in marine build as most will add two reactors and a tech lab. It's more of an early push/defense build that can be modified to react to your opponents build.
I find it good against Protoss but 1:1:1 I find works better for T or Z.
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kinda missing the point though, the whole early strat is about getting units fast , the added guff of gas, addons etc delay it. yeh you get all that stuff but its slightly delayed, the constant pumping of suvs keep you economy in check until the first push...like most things its all about the timings i guess.
once you have your 3 rax then you get the gas, oribital etc but by then you would be thinking about pushing unless something crazy has happened. once my 2nd rax is built i have more then enough to pump units from both, same with the 3rd rax and keep on adding more suvs, depots etc.
give it a try, I used to do the whole standard opener but then so does everyone else, imo this gives you the edge to make that early push and at least have a good chance of it landing properly and its something different! sc2 doesnt get anywhere with people trying the same strategys that have been around since day1.