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The exit to his bedroom and thus safety was closer than the bathroom containing locked door and 'intruder'.
Still, 4 shots ought to do the job. Best not leave it at just the one, eh?
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The exit to his bedroom and thus safety was closer than the bathroom containing locked door and 'intruder'.
Still, 4 shots ought to do the job. Best not leave it at just the one, eh?
An intruder is of no immediate threat on the other side of a door.
True. What If's are pretty important. There were probably people on the road outside too, what if they were the intruders mates? Best shoot them, as well.
However you want to paint it there is something pretty odd about a scenario where your girlfriend gets up to pop to the loo in the night and you unload 4 bullets as a response.
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Not denying it's odd. Personally I'd have legged it as far as I could, but then again I don't live in SA.
Is it conclusive as to if he had his legs on at the time? Running away sharpish could have been tricky without them ...
He's got bail.
I don't think so. The magistrate was quite scathing about some evidence not being dealt with properly at the time. Particularly the mobile phone records, and the ballistics which appear to contradict whether Pistorious, actually had his prosthetic limbs on. Though I'm sure it will run for months.
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[TW]Fox;23814739 said:
^^ This
It should have also been obvious after the first shot that he made a mistake. Anyone know why he did it ? Affair ? Break up ? What's the low down
If literally anyone knew that, I'm sure they would have been stood in the dock on behalf of the Prosecution instead of Hilton 'Bumbling' Botha.
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WHAT, you serious?
"It's OK wife & kids, the intruder is in the bathroom and as long as the intruder doesn't come out, there is no immediate threat so everybody back to bed and stop being pussies"
What's the immediate threat if the intruder doesn't come out, and there's no line of sight from the door to your bedroom (ie he can't shoot through the door and hit anyone)?
My issue with this is if he was so in love with her why wasn't his first reaction when he thought there was an intruder to make sure she was safe? He quickly had a gun in his hand and had the ability to defend both of them once he established where she was. Would you really shoot first and ask questions later when the potential victim was the love of your life?
Look at his website
"I’m sure Reeva herself is watching you and guarding you from above with much love, like an angel."
I bet she is.
"In time you will be forgiven by all those who matter."
Reevas family obviously don't matter?
"I don’t care what you may or may not have done"
Good to hear, people like a good murderer.
"I’m sure Reeva herself is watching you and guarding you from above with much love, like an angel."
I bet she is.
"In time you will be forgiven by all those who matter."
Reevas family obviously don't matter?
"I don’t care what you may or may not have done"
Good to hear, people like a good murderer.
I feel like I should make a point on this. I don't want to get into a discussion of whether it was right or justifiable, whether or not I believe his story etc. but it's something to consider.
You or I are probably far less vulnerable in this position. If we believe there is an intruder behind the door, but is not an immediate threat, we can make a retreat from this danger zone slowly and cautiously, keeping the gun aimed at the door at all times. If someone jumps out, and we don't recognise them, we shoot them.
Oscar Pistorius' version of events state that he did not have his prosthetic legs on at this point, giving him very limited mobility on his stumps. If he requires the use of his hands to support himself and move around without the prosthetic legs, then this makes him significantly more vulnerable than you or I, as at best he would have to maintain grip on the gun with a single hand whilst using that hand to help him get around, meaning he could not react to a threat as quickly, but possibly worse than that have to carry it in his lap or elsewhere. This means that whilst someone behind the door may not be an immediate threat to you or I, and questionably so in his case, it does mean that the potential threat is greater (assuming he has to move around in this way) to him and leaves him far less time in which to react.
Yes, because thats exactly what he said. Not.
'Everyone out, now'
Intruders don't break in to commit random acts of murder for the lulz. They break in to steal things, and carry weapons to intimidate the people they might meet and protect themselves from any violence from the home owners.
It would be fairly unlikely if an intruder took it upon himself to chase through the house after the occupants in order to execute them.
The occupants fleeing is exactly what an intruder wants - he wants to thieve your stuff, not add 2 counts of premeditated murder to his rap sheet.
But this is all irrelevent really. If it really *was* an intruder, why would he have run and locked himself in the toilet before being approached by the home owner? There would have been no reason to do such a thing until he knew he'd been discovered! No cash or tv's to steal in the bog.