OSX El Capitan

MagicBoy · 30 Sep 2015 at 23:39

The dev versions have near identical performance to Yosemite on my Core 2 Mac mini. That's with an SSD fitted. Mavericks onwards are very beachball-y on mechanical drives.

Think of El Cap as Snow Yosemite.

CircleFaust · 1 Oct 2015 at 07:58

has told me my copy cannot be verified, d/l again
but it won't do that in app store

ChrisD. · 1 Oct 2015 at 08:14

Window manipulation is still **** poor compared to Windows.

tom_e · 1 Oct 2015 at 08:17

Updated last night, not had a proper play with it yet though.

EyeDot · 1 Oct 2015 at 12:06

Be very careful if you use Office for Mac 2011 (or Outlook 2016) as there appears to be a known issue where it simply hangs / crashes constantly.

My outlook is useless currently!

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3098396

Valo · 1 Oct 2015 at 12:11

EyeDot said:
Be very careful if you use Office for Mac 2011 (or Outlook 2016) as there appears to be a known issue where it simply hangs / crashes constantly.

My outlook is useless currently!

Thanks for the heads-up. I was just about to start the upgrade.....think I'll hold of for a bit then.

EDIT: Did a bit of looking about and it appears it's mainly Outlook with the issues, as long as you have the very latest update installed for Office 2011 the rest of the apps should be fine. I've now updated and everything is running fine.

Irish_Tom · 1 Oct 2015 at 12:26

S2KIP said:
Window manipulation is still **** poor compared to Windows.

I use a little addon called BetterSnapTool which is much better than the in-built controls.

MagicBoy · 1 Oct 2015 at 12:27

Outlook 2011 is borked for me, 2016 is fine.

sbi5ar · 1 Oct 2015 at 12:30

Irish_Tom said:
I use a little addon called BetterSnapTool which is much better than the in-built controls.

This is a must have application in my opinion.

MagicBoy said:
Outlook 2011 is borked for me, 2016 is fine.

Not used 2011 in ages, but 2016 is working fine for me

ChrisD. · 1 Oct 2015 at 13:56

Irish_Tom said:
I use a little addon called BetterSnapTool which is much better than the in-built controls.

Cheers, I'll have a look tonight. But why don't Apple build in something decent into the OS? M$ managed it in 2007 when Windows Vista was released.

The built in one into El Capitan is dreadful if you ask me, especially on a 5k iMac.

Django x2 · 1 Oct 2015 at 14:21

2016 fine here too

sbi5ar · 1 Oct 2015 at 14:26

S2KIP said:
Cheers, I'll have a look tonight. But why don't Apple build in something decent into the OS? M$ managed it in 2007 when Windows Vista was released.

The built in one into El Capitan is dreadful if you ask me, especially on a 5k iMac.

I think they want you to utilise full screen apps etc...

ChrisD. · 1 Oct 2015 at 15:00

sbi5ar said:
I think they want you to utilise full screen apps etc...

Full screen apps on a 27" monitor with 5k resolution is unworkable unless it's something like Lightroom, PS or iMovie etc. For day to day working windows manipulation needs some love from Apple IMO.

flying grouse · 1 Oct 2015 at 17:31

I've noticed that there isn't an option for secure erase items in the (trash bin)

the apple website it should be there. "Finder preferences" (advanced) Secure Erase

shiver · 1 Oct 2015 at 17:42

Irish_Tom said:
I use a little addon called BetterSnapTool which is much better than the in-built controls.

+1 for BetterSnapTool

ChrisD. · 1 Oct 2015 at 17:46

Yeah using it now, much better. Why the functionality is not built in is beyond me.

Hxc · 1 Oct 2015 at 17:50

Any way you can turn off the stupid drag app to the top of screen for mission control feature? I have Bettersnaptool using the top of the screen as a maximise and it's annoying me about every 5 mins.

I have killed mission control entirely at present but that's not a permanent solution.

matt100 · 1 Oct 2015 at 17:58

Genius.. updated today, work laptop using... yep.. outlook 2011.

Nice big chunk of the day wasted on disaster recovery.

opethdisciple · 1 Oct 2015 at 23:46

matt100 said:
Genius.. updated today, work laptop using... yep.. outlook 2011.

Nice big chunk of the day wasted on disaster recovery.

All our work MacBooks use Office 2011. I wisely thought not to apply the update in case it broke something! :rolleyes:

EyeDot · 2 Oct 2015 at 02:25

Valo said:
EDIT: Did a bit of looking about and it appears it's mainly Outlook with the issues, as long as you have the very latest update installed for Office 2011 the rest of the apps should be fine. I've now updated and everything is running fine.

Entirely wrong!

2011 simply wont work on El Captain AFAIK!