Our project this summer!

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 18:44

nydryl said:
Reading between the lines I'd say they need 19k and 6 of them put in £850 each towards the total required. That takes you down to around £14k.

Correct, thank you.

s innes · 26 Jan 2011 at 18:51

Beerguzzler said:
The aim is to assess the value for conservation of regenerating compared to primary tropical rainforest by carrying out all the research that is planned. I hope this answers the question.

this part of your satement has me puzzeld can you elaborate on it

beh · 26 Jan 2011 at 18:52

Beerguzzler said:
we need to raise an awful lot to pay for equipment, food, permits and wages for the guides/scientists.

Can you break it down a bit, how much on each and specifically what/why?

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:00

s innes said:
this part of your satement has me puzzeld can you elaborate on it

Sure, we are surveying both pristine primary forest and forest that has been cut down and then allowed to regenerate after different levels of clearance and disturbance due to agriculture/logging. This is now protected from hunting and other potentially harmful human activities. Both areas will be surveyed and the abundance and distribution of biodiversity compared. Focus will be on determining how ecosystems can recover from such devastating environmental change and if they are as valuable to conserve compared to untouched forest.

Mr-White · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:04

Those rainforest trees have got to be worth a fair bit, can't you start selling those to loggers ?

MW

Ahleckz · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:04

People in this thread seem to think that research is free...

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:07

beh said:
Can you break it down a bit, how much on each and specifically what/why?

This is our prospectus, full breakdown is in there and information in a lot more depth. Thanks for the interest

nydryl · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:07

Ahleckz said:
People in this thread seem to think that research is free...

I suppose the difference is that here the money is getting raised directly from the public whereas it is normally raised behind the scenes from funding bodies in the form of a grant. Judging by the responses it's just as well not all research is funded this way.

Stewy · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:07

Off to H&M to do market research, require £500 but could come down to £300 if people are being tight, anyone feeling generous?

[TW]Fox · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:10

Ahleckz said:
People in this thread seem to think that research is free...

No, people in this thread think research is paid for by other means including grants from interested parties.

It isn't generally used as an excuse to blag literally 5 figure sums off the general public so you can go on what is basically a 6 week jolly on the other side of the world.

guyfawkes5 · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:14

StewartMG said:
Off to H&M to do market research, require £500 but could come down to £300 if people are being tight, anyone feeling generous?

Depends, do you pay for your own travel?

[TW]Fox · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:15

guyfawkes5 said:
Depends, do you pay for your own travel?

I'd be happy to pay for a flight if I got free accomodation and living costs whilst I was there!! What a great deal!

This isn't the sort of thing that should be funded by charitable donations, there are far far better places for your money if you wish to give to a good cause. No matter how people try and dress it up this isn't anything other than a bunch of students going to a fantastic place for a virtually free field trip.

Stewy · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:16

guyfawkes5 said:
Depends, do you pay for your own travel?

How about... I pay for the petrol but you guys pay parking? Seems fair.

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:19

[TW]Fox;18321173 said:
No, people in this thread think research is paid for by other means including grants from interested parties.

It isn't generally used as an excuse to blag literally 5 figure sums off the general public so you can go on what is basically a 6 week jolly on the other side of the world.

We do get considerable funding from interested parties, there is no excuse to blag money at all, this money is used directly to fund research and most of the time we raise the extra money by holding band nights, quizes and so on. And, i'll say it again, it will NOT be a 6 week jolly. I could have used my money and saved my time to just go to Peru and just travel but instead I am giving time and money to help a cause I believe in.

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:21

[TW]Fox;18321202 said:
I'd be happy to pay for a flight if I got free accomodation and living costs whilst I was there!! What a great deal!

This isn't the sort of thing that should be funded by charitable donations, there are far far better places for your money if you wish to give to a good cause. No matter how people try and dress it up this isn't anything other than a bunch of students going to a fantastic place for a virtually free field trip.

Do you think most charities don't pay or provide the people that work for them with accomodation and food?

guyfawkes5 · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:26

Beerguzzler said:
Do you think most charities don't pay or provide the people that work for them with accomodation and food?

Oh dear.

beh · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:30

Beerguzzler said:
This is our prospectus, full breakdown is in there and information in a lot more depth. Thanks for the interest

Ta, makes things a lot clearer, should have linked that in the OP

Oh, and definitely google docs > keepandshare.

[TW]Fox · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:48

Beerguzzler said:
Do you think most charities don't pay or provide the people that work for them with accomodation and food?

Do you think your jolly to Peru is anything like volunteering at a cancer hospice in Rotherham?

I'd be amazed if there is anything not known about the Amazon in Peru that a bunch of students on a bargain holiday will be able to tell the established science community.

arknor · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:52

Beerguzzler said:
Do you think most charities don't pay or provide the people that work for them with accomodation and food?

actually they dont i know a guy who goes to africa every year to help a charity and he has to pay for his own flights and living expenses.

anyway

we need to raise an awful lot to pay for equipment, food, permits and wages for the guides/scientists.

so you want people to pay your wages out of the donation? you and your friends are the "scientists" on this expedition ?
or is it just a holiday and you will pay some local "scientists" to collect data for you.

Beerguzzler · 26 Jan 2011 at 19:58

[TW]Fox;18321437 said:
Do you think your jolly to Peru is anything like volunteering at a cancer hospice in Rotherham?

I'd be amazed if there is anything not known about the Amazon in Peru that a bunch of students on a bargain holiday will be able to tell the established science community.

No I don't and I wasn't pretending it was. However, this type of volunteering generally requires going into the middle of nowhere and working full time which requires money. Just because we cant afford to pay for the whole thing doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to help. You will be amazed then that the last expedition got very good results including finding and identifying new species in one area. And work form last summer is currently about to be published in a journal. Your forgetting that we are working with the scientists that are part of the science community.