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Over 1000 dead and rising as 50'c+ Heatwave hits Hajj in Saudi Arabia
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Which is why ideologies with that mindset very strictly forbid suicide. They have to, or else many believers would commit suicide (the most sensible course of action for a believer in such an ideology unless the ideology strictly forbids suicide) and the ideology would lose power. Or, more likely, not gain much power to begin with.
The deceased have achieved the purest success possible in their ideology - they have died in a way that their masters approve of. What's the reason for compassion?
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“Please don’t commit mass suicide to get to heaven - we won’t have enough people left and will be downgraded from a religion to a cult and lose our tax free status…”
Mind you, could you class 1000 deaths as mass suicide…?
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My hajj was the Isle of Wight festival in 1970. Once in a lifetime great bands, nudie beach bathing and temperatures in the twenties (probably). No deaths.
and not many virgins (probably).
and not many virgins (probably).
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Hagar flexing a bit there…
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My Dad went to that. Hendrix one right?
Soldato
Yes. In the early hours of the morning.
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Jonestown without the Kool-Aid.
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Wait...are the dead rising?
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Mass pilgrimage, for no apparent gain... could say the same about football fans.
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At least they are doing their bit to help reduce climate change.
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Life is cheap in the Arab world, this will be shrugged off as usual.
It's no different to a lot of the views in the thread for that lad that decided to go for an extended stroll in Tenerife and went missing. Both activities obviously have there risks and get filled under the FAFO/ 'play stupid games win stupid prizes category'.
According to the BBC 1.8 million Muslims have, unsafely, made the trip this year.
What's behind deaths at this year's Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia?
Hundreds of people are feared to have died and several countries have opened investigations.
www.bbc.co.uk
That means that over a 60 year period, in which the average human might be of a suitable age to make such a trip, that around 108 million people could actually visit Mecca.
There are around 1.9 billion Muslim's globally. So it's quite clear that making this trip is a vanity endeavour for a miniority not something that most adherents can be expected to complete at some point in their life.
It's yet another example of the clear man made and nonsensical nature of religions.
And much like for other, sometimes more secular, idiocy it attracts a like amount of sympathy when it inevitably goes wrong....
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No, no I'm pretty sure he hasn't, since he's still alive.
Morons following their "religion" while they go trek through a 50c desert is profoundly dumb and it cost them their lives.
There were 10000 deaths from booze last year in the UK. Plenty of other far dumber than a pilgrimage reasons people die for including plenty of things you've done yourself.
People think with no religion we'll all be better off but the sad truth is without it people find even more idiotic things to dedicate themselves to.
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I can prove alcohol exists and has a measurable effect on whoever drinks it.
God(s) achieve neither of these, thus religion is one of the more dumber ways to waste your life.
Alcohol is also a dumb way to waste it, but at least it’s real.
No you can't prove Gods don't exist, you can't disprove it either, but they can have a measurable effect on peoples lives, in this context it's killed a load of people, religion has had postiive effects on some peoples lives too. Btw I don't bellieve in God but I hope he/she/it exists.