Overheating Watercooling loop? - Please Help

not to be funny but you did wash out the rads first ? could be as simple as blockage on the blocks ..or pump
with the thickness of those rads cant see static pressure being a problem ..

I did yeah, loads of crap came out of them which i was kinda surprised about considering they are tested and new :/

High static-pressure fans on the rad (Corsair SP series, Akasa Viper or Piranha for eg) and get a rear exhaust fan in there- can't see one on your pic.
I'm thinking it's lack of case airflow, pure and simple.

I have now added a rear fan as suggest by a couple of chaps and will see if this improves, my old fans that i was going to swap out to test are only 1200fpm fans so i don't think that would make a blind bit of difference so i have ordered some new ones with a bit more umph and will test
 
I did yeah, loads of crap came out of them which i was kinda surprised about considering they are tested and new :/



I have now added a rear fan as suggest by a couple of chaps and will see if this improves, my old fans that i was going to swap out to test are only 1200fpm fans so i don't think that would make a blind bit of difference so i have ordered some new ones with a bit more umph and will test


with regards to your old fans you could install them on the otherside of the front rad, a push pull for testing may improve temps and you'll see how much heat is being dumped into the rad my your components.

which fans did you end up buying?
 
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Sorry to disagree
Yes 1150rpm is on the lower side fan wise
But I only run mine 900 to 1200 max
1850 to 2200rpm would be severely loud
Ideally maybe they should have got 1500rpm fans so had a bit in reserve
But I will be very surprised if most people in here with custom loops are running 1850~2200rpms

Edit forgot the make of my fans lol
Noise blocker eloops I think


I have to agree here, i don't think its a fan issue. I run my fans at around 1200rpm using arctic cooling P12 PST fans which is virtually silent using a modest fan curve and it keeps my temps around 42-44c max for gpu and 65-67c max for cpu. I would check your gpu block and make sure its actually mounted correctly as i have a sneaky suspicion that maybe the culprit. It seems more like to me that your gpu block isn't mounted correctly which is causing your high gpu temps which in turn is driving your cpu temps up as it runs off the same loop. If you knock 5-6 degrees off your cpu then that is what i would call normal under load under a watercooling setup. Your gpu however should sit under 50c under water and 78-81c is way too high, something is definitely not right there. Out of all the builds i've done, i've never had a gpu under water go over 50c unless im running 2 cards in the same loop.
 
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i forgot to ask but what are your idle temps under water?, you mention load temps but not idle

also just to check what method did you use to apply thermal paste to the cpu and gpu, its best with 3rd gen ryzen to apply paste and use a old card to completly cover the ihs, same thing goes for the 2080ti, the whole core needs covering, if you used a pea sized amount thats not enough.

when you took the gpu block off first time around was the transfer of thermal paste equil on the core and the block its self?
 
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i forgot to ask but what are your idle temps under water?, you mention load temps but not idle

also just to check what method did you use to apply thermal paste to the cpu and gpu, its best with 3rd gen ryzen to apply paste and use a old card to completly cover the ihs, same thing goes for the 2080ti, the whole core needs covering, if you used a pea sized amount thats not enough

I originally applied a pea size to both CPU and gpu but when I reapplied both thermal pastes yesterday i spread the thermal paste evenly with a scraper on both CPU and GPU, CPU temps remained the same and GPU temps did improve but still stupidly hot.

with regards to your old fans you could install them on the otherside of the front rad, a push pull for testing may improve temps and you'll see how much heat is being dumped into the rad my your components.

which fans did you end up buying?

I have just purchased some 6x Arctic P12 PWM PST as mentioned by a previous chap in the thread, they are relativly cheap and have good reviews, if they do the job brilliant if not, no real loss
 
i forgot to ask but what are your idle temps under water?, you mention load temps but not idle

also just to check what method did you use to apply thermal paste to the cpu and gpu, its best with 3rd gen ryzen to apply paste and use a old card to completly cover the ihs, same thing goes for the 2080ti, the whole core needs covering, if you used a pea sized amount thats not enough.

when you took the gpu block off first time around was the transfer of thermal paste equil on the core and the block its self?

My idle temps are 28-30C for the GPU and 39-42C on the CPU, my room temperature is currently 26C
 
I hope it does turn out to just be the fans for you
But you pretty much went by the book
Those vardar are what EK website states are the correct ones for that thickness and fins per inch radiator
At least if it doesn't totally cure it the higher rpm fans are going to improve it to less worrying temps taking a bit of the pressure off you while we try to give more suggestions to help

Edit this 15 posts per 24 hours limit on new forum members is very frustrating when trying to help people any one know how long it lasts for

2nd edit to get round 15 posts limit

which exact version of the eloop fan?
Me?
Can't remember lol
Off top of my head they may go up to 2000rpm
But no way I would run them that fast
Even if I mess around at 1500rpm it's much too loud for me personally
It's not the fans themselves as such
It's the noise of the air being moved through the radiator I assume
 
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The liquid in your loop and the copper/brass in your radiators should provide a large amount of thermal mass. This means every joule of energy given up from the CPU and GPU will contribute to less temperature rise (compared to a smaller thermal mass like less liquid).

What I'm getting at here is that it should take minutes, maybe even tens of minutes to heat soak your liquid and radiators up to, say, 50°. That's a 25 degree increase from ambient. Components will then have a delta over liquid temp - GPU is usually only a few degrees but CPU can easily be 20-30° over liquid temperature, under load. Meaning 50° water would give maybe 70-80° CPU temp. If you're finding temperatures rise to maximum faster that, something is up. Regardless of overall cooling capacity (defined by radiator area, fan speed and airflow/temperature), there should be some inertia on components temps.

Also, new radiators need cleaning. Some people have experienced some brands coming fairly clean out of the factory. I wouldn't take the chance, there's always some kind of crud to flush out :)
 
heres the thing .. the rads are what 20-25mm thick ? static pressure should not be a problem ..
mine are old and nearly twice as thick and I run vardas on them at 12-1300 no probs with temps ..
I'm going to stick with a circulation problem. idle good temps .. when you stress them how long does it take to heat up ?
in hw info tdie should hit 50 and climb slowly
cpu temp itself should rise very slowly .. if both are hitting limits after 10 sec i's not fans .. the water would not have reached thermal limit yet
 
39-42°c and 28-30°c are not good idle temps imo, unless your room is 27°c but then thay wouldn't explain the cpu temps. My systems idle temps are a degree or two above ambient room temperature so low 20's.
When you stress test the system how long does it take it to reach max temps?
WIth thin rads I doubt the fans would be an issue and you say that your flow rate is good and your cleaned out your rads. Did you flush them until only clear water comes out? I've connect my rads to the hose pipe in the past to get all the gunk out!
Personally I would be checking the mounting of your blocks as everything else appears to be ok. Do you radiators get warm? Does the entire radiator heat up? Maybe there is still air caught in the rads.
Also check the GPU block fittings are not restricting flow as if the thread is too long that can pretty much cut off your water flow.
 
Did you take the cpu block apart? The plate inside of the wrong way round will reduce flow by about 90%. Had it happen to me and got similar results to you.
 
Did you take the cpu block apart? The plate inside of the wrong way round will reduce flow by about 90%. Had it happen to me and got similar results to you.
Good point, i had this as well. Goes the same with the gpu block as well. If its running the wrong way it can cause this. Whats the inlet and out of your pump running?
 
if your idle temps are that low it's got to be down to fans, if your idle temps were high then i'd say the blocks were mounted incorrectly, but a gpu idle temp of 30ish is perfect, tbh the cpu is pretty good too idle

Thats good news at least, hopefully these fans sort all the issues, I will admit after installing my rear fan after some wiggling it does seem to have helped my GPU temps by around 10-15C or so, which is insane so must prove it to be an issue with airflow to be saving that much heat i couldn't believe it but have been using the pc all day on games that caused temps of 81C before and now not going above 66C and my CPU is also cooler at around 59-62C.
Turned the fan off and temps back to as they were before in about 20-30mins, back on and lowers to the above temps again after 30 or so mins.

The liquid in your loop and the copper/brass in your radiators should provide a large amount of thermal mass. This means every joule of energy given up from the CPU and GPU will contribute to less temperature rise (compared to a smaller thermal mass like less liquid).

What I'm getting at here is that it should take minutes, maybe even tens of minutes to heat soak your liquid and radiators up to, say, 50°. That's a 25 degree increase from ambient. Components will then have a delta over liquid temp - GPU is usually only a few degrees but CPU can easily be 20-30° over liquid temperature, under load. Meaning 50° water would give maybe 70-80° CPU temp. If you're finding temperatures rise to maximum faster that, something is up. Regardless of overall cooling capacity (defined by radiator area, fan speed and airflow/temperature), there should be some inertia on components temps.

Also, new radiators need cleaning. Some people have experienced some brands coming fairly clean out of the factory. I wouldn't take the chance, there's always some kind of crud to flush out :)

The temperatures take around 15-20 mins to reach maximum temperature and it is a slow build not a idle to max instantly.

I cleaned the radiators before fitting and these were clean with only a few particles present, which i was surprised with.

heres the thing .. the rads are what 20-25mm thick ? static pressure should not be a problem ..
mine are old and nearly twice as thick and I run vardas on them at 12-1300 no probs with temps ..
I'm going to stick with a circulation problem. idle good temps .. when you stress them how long does it take to heat up ?
in hw info tdie should hit 50 and climb slowly
cpu temp itself should rise very slowly .. if both are hitting limits after 10 sec i's not fans .. the water would not have reached thermal limit yet

The temperatures take around 15-20 mins to reach maximum temperature and it is a slow build, there is an initial spike and then it slowly builds up to max temp.

Did you take the cpu block apart? The plate inside of the wrong way round will reduce flow by about 90%. Had it happen to me and got similar results to you.

The Cpu is not really of concern as it is warm but well within margin for error i believe and i think the improved airflow should fix this, also i did not take the CPU block apart as it had the correct AMD plate preinstalled with a pretested label affixed to the block. My main worry is the fact my GPU is running around 30-35C hotter than other 2080tis on similar watercooling loops, when checking the instructions and the block itself there is no designated in or out unlike what can be found on the CPU block
 
Thats good news at least, hopefully these fans sort all the issues, I will admit after installing my rear fan after some wiggling it does seem to have helped my GPU temps by around 10-15C or so, which is insane so must prove it to be an issue with airflow to be saving that much heat i couldn't believe it but have been using the pc all day on games that caused temps of 81C before and now not going above 66C and my CPU is also cooler at around 59-62C.
Turned the fan off and temps back to as they were before in about 20-30mins, back on and lowers to the above temps again after 30 or so mins.

thats very good news to hear, i'm suprised a exhaust fan can reduce temps that much but hey if a fan not connected to the rads can do that imagine what temps you'll get with 6 new fans on the rads :), on a side note though the ambiant temps inside you case must be terrible if a exaust fan dropped temps like that
 
I’m still leaning on a flow problem. My cpu is normally in mid 40s and GPU is mid 50s under loads. Water temp normally maxes at 32c. Fans are set to run by water temp, not running below 30 and about 30%at 32c so its very quiet.
 
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