P & O Ferries

robfosters · 17 Mar 2022 at 13:51

Should revoke their licence

Pudney · 17 Mar 2022 at 13:54

Sirrel Squirrel said:
Are you even allowed to do that to employees without notice? Especially as they are unionised too.

lookitsjonno said:
Basically you get put on gardening leave

Probably more accurate in this instance to say that the ex-employees are receiving Payments in Lieu of Notice (PILONs).

Gardening leave the employee remains an employee and can still be asked to work.

b0rn2sk8 said:
Isn’t it illegal to make someone redundant and then replace them with someone else doing the same job?

Outsourcing a role is a valid reason for redundancy AFAIK.

Pudney · 17 Mar 2022 at 13:55

Separately to above, I'm not sure how much leverage the Union is going to have... If the parent company pulls financial support then P&O could go bust and its members would probably receive even less money.

Malevolence · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:13

robfosters said:
Should revoke their licence

This. And then resurrect Hoverspeed.

Housey · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:16

BUDFORCE said:
All the rich and wealthy people are going to live on them in the middle of the ocean whilst the rest of the world burns in a nuclear holocaust.

No we have submarines.

I mean they, sorry they. I’ll be at home not in my top secret tunnel to the sea port under Devon that we must not discuss.

Housey · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:17

Just need some diesel for my train so all good

oh ****

iamtheoneneo · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:17

So P&O are done then. I find it hard to believe most members of the public will support this behaviour

Housey · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:19

iamtheoneneo said:
So P&O are done then. I find it hard to believe most members of the public will support this behaviour

I think we need to wait and see. Right now we have a union creating fud. If they sack staff and replace them all with foreign nationals I suspect it will hit them a bit for sure.

Maccy · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:20

iamtheoneneo said:
So P&O are done then. I find it hard to believe most members of the public will support this behaviour

Hopefully everyone will boycott them.

Housey · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:21

800 redundancies

Housey · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:22

I suspect now they get people to apply for ‘new’ roles

lookitsjonno · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:23

I wonder if this will spill over into their cruise business

Nevakonaza · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:25

Sirrel Squirrel said:
Are you even allowed to do that to employees without notice? Especially as they are unionised too.

I think its illegal to do in the UK but id suspect P&O are probably owned & operated by someone outside the UK.
i could be wrong ive not read into who owns it,But REALLY scummy move by P&O i hope people bycot using them.

Freakbro · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:28

lookitsjonno said:
I wonder if this will spill over into their cruise business

We've got a cruise to the Fjords with them in Aug...been bounced since 2020 already due to Covid, looks like we're never going to get there!

200sols · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:31

Iirc PO cruises are owned by Carnival group and are totally separate from P&O ferries.

Uther · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:33

Is this where you get rid if all your decently paid skilled staff and bring in a load of min wage agency staff to run the ship?

Freakbro · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:33

200sols said:
Iirc PO cruises are owned by Carnival group and are totally separate from P&O ferries.

Ahh phew, I can still go with a clear conscience

Didn't want all these lefties with their cancel culture ganging up on me!

Uther said:
Is this where you get rid if all your decently paid skilled staff and bring in a load of min wage agency staff to run the ship?

What could possibly go wrong!

robfosters · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:42

Cant believe they even had the cheek to bus loads of foreign workers in to the docks to take over straight away.

Shocking behaviour.

andybird123 · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:43

Nevakonaza said:
I think its illegal to do in the UK but id suspect P&O are probably owned & operated by someone outside the UK.
i could be wrong ive not read into who owns it,But REALLY scummy move by P&O i hope people bycot using them.

It's not illegal if they are paid whatever redundancy package they are entitled to plus payment in lieu of notice. Who the owner is is irrelevant, they still have to comply with UK law if they have a UK company or UK staff.

The Funktopus · 17 Mar 2022 at 14:56

As a Brit working at sea myself, I fear there will come the day when we’ll be simply priced out of the market. Whole sectors of the industry have basically forced Brits out by paying wages that would be effectively untenable with the cost of living in the UK, but attractive to people from developing countries, like India, The Phillipines, Burma, Indonesia etc.