Paris attacks.

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Raz said:
Military Muslim/Islamic expansions. Do you think the Romans, British etc were terrorists as well?
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Romans encouraged self rule and tbh Britain did well out of it.
I don't think anyone living under ISIS are loving it.

As much as Britain exploited other countries, at least they were not the hell holes they reverted to afterwards. Is there anywhere in Africa you'd choose to live now?
 
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XeNoN89 said:
This thing is going to happen more and more due to the left's let everybody in policy.
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Yrp. It need a stop putting to it now. If anyone bleats about most of them being peace loving people, well it don't matter if they're brethren are going to travel round Europe murdering innocents.
 
How awful, RIP. :(

Sadly I can only see this sort of thing becoming more and more common.

Hopefully they can save the hostages...
 
hartgeh3 said:
might cancel my trip there next week!
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Dont m8,then they win.

I visted London a week after the Tube bombings,refused to cancel,security was tight at some places during that time but still everyone went about their business no panic,no drama,city didnt let the lunatics scare them .As they say Soldier on! :)
 
mithrandir said:
40 dead butu I have a feeling it will rise especially with the hostages and from what I heard, suicide bomber, AK47 gunmen and others had grenades.
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Reports from Bataclan: some escaped, describing pools of blood and attackers using pump-action shotgun against crowd inside
— Jeremy Cliffe (@JeremyCliffe) November 13, 2015
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Sadly these hostages are dead, These people are prepared to die and there is nothing they want apart from publicity and a massive death toll. If a single hostages escapes i will be shocked. I hope i am wrong.
 
Housey said:
A watching brief, sharing of news as it comes in, no assumptions, no agendas, just observe for now would be my suggested approach.
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Nonsense. It's a forum not a Court. People can post whatever they like within the bounds of forum rules. We can speculate as much as we like.

This bears the hallmarks of a small cell Islamic terrorist attack based upon their chosen approach and multiple, coordinated strikes.
 
Rofflay said:
Lies... Since the founding they have been going on Holy War, Ask India or the Buddhist Afghans or the Christians in the Middle East who have all been butchered or converted. People like you are just as bad as an Islamic terrorist. You both give Islamization and the lies of peace merit.

This is your "Moderate" Muslims? God help us all.
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As it happens, I'm no longer a Muslim so it doesn't make much difference to me what you think, but I do know that you're not worth talking to.
 
XeNoN89 said:
Trying to pretend these terrorists aren't muslim or aren't doing this is the name of islam is just trying to ignore the problem. I know all muslims aren't terrorists but the percentage that are or support some of their extremist views is significant and ignoring that is an absolute joke.
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That is spot on.

But it is important to always keep that perspective and remember that a small but significant percentage.

Generalisations don't help in trying to prevent radicalisation or dissuading the more extreme individuals from doing horrible things.

At worst you lose the goodwill of people that are in a position to help prevent these things from happening.
 
George Hincapie said:
Nonsense. It's a forum not a Court. People can post whatever they like within the bounds of forum rules. We can speculate as much as we like.

This bears the hallmarks of a small cell Islamic terrorist attack based upon their chosen approach and multiple, coordinated strikes.
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I guess you only read so far...

Housey said:
Speculation is fine I think and only to be expected. We can probably all see what happened here now at the base level, no question it's a terror attack, one can therefore assume the likely candidates of such a crime. Now we need to hope their death is quick but painful and without further innocents getting hurt.
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Tosno said:
It can not be the religion of peace! Islam is peace. Some random real Muslim man standing outside a mosque will be on the news tomorrow to say the gunmen are not real Muslims, as Islam is peace.
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haha yea that old chesnut thats my favourite line.

I do wonder what gives muslims the right to tell whether other muslims are "real" ones or not.
 
I'm going to assume it is IS revenge on the drone strikes. But seems so well organised and quick.

Either way the terrorists are really starting to make an impact. Infear a lot of negative press towards anyone that isn't a white or non stereotype Westerner.

I fear a lot of hate crimes and aggression incoming.

Dark times.
 
Christ, I look away from the news for a few hours and more crazy stuff starts kicking off :( World is stoopid
 
Johno please? said:
haha yea that old chesnut thats my favourite line.

I do wonder what gives muslims the right to tell whether other muslims are "real" ones or not.
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They only do that to distance themselves from the extremists so they don't get treated as if it's their fault it happened.
 
Freefaller said:
I'm going to assume it is IS revenge on the drone strikes. But seems so well organised and quick.

Either way the terrorists are really starting to make an impact. Infear a lot of negative press towards anyone that isn't a white or non stereotype Westerner.

Dark times.
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I assumed the same with regards to Jihadi John.

Maybe the security in France isn't so good? and sleeper cells exist there.
 
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