Paris attacks.

Mynight · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:13

Random Guy said:
Fair enough. The current sample size from muslims I know (approximately 20) shows a 100% rating for being utterly horrified. Good enough?

Sorry no. Anecdotal isn't evidence.

I'm not saying I disagree with you I just found it amusing you derided someone for not having evidence then post exactly the same but opposing view.

The ones I know are truely saddened by the attack and are worried about reprisals from the plebs across the road from us

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Edit: not sure of the word for a wrong reprisal. It's not like my neighbours had anything to do with it.

glenimp617 · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:13

maccapacca said:
Oh dear Facebook is full of people changing their profile picture to overlaid french flags.

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment that'll be all they do in between watching x factor and emmerdale.

what do you expect them to do :confused:

Rroff · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:13

MANFACE said:
Something really wrong going on here.

Hence my comments in the migration thread - Its actually kind of stunning that David Cameron seems to be the only leader in Europe with any comprehension of the scale of the coming problem and the right way to go about dealing with it but has very little support for implementing it.

leoncc · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:14

I feel so sorry for the people trapped inside for that amount of time with no help and totally defenceless.

I can't believe so many lives were lost though, truly shocking.

Why did they take so long securing a perimeter around Bataclan when they must have been monitoring social networking sites knowing people were being executed for ages and pleading for help, I mean you know they are there to not negotiate, just cause as much casualties as possible then kill themselves so surely the GIGN should have stormed the building sooner?

D1craig · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:14

TheVoice said:
So it's their fault you're misinformed?

well... yes, they are the "informers" are they not?

like i said after the Hebdo attack i doen maybe 30mins of research and only found one statement from a semi prominent figure in a muslim society condemning the act. all the other things i read said "yes it is disgusting but he deserved it (not in such few words minds) because he drew a picture we didnt like".

its upto the people that are being victimised to come out and inform us aswell, if they think they are being hard done by they should do something to ease our minds and actually condemn the atrocities without giving excuses for them.

Psycho Sonny · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:14

glen8 said:
what do you expect them to do

boycott muslims

glenimp617 · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:15

leoncc said:
I feel so sorry for the people trapped inside for that amount of time with no help and totally defenceless.

I can't believe so many lives were lost though, truly shocking.

Why did they take so long securing a perimeter around Bataclan when they must have been monitoring social networking sites knowing people were being executed for ages and pleading for help, I mean you know they are there to not negotiate, just cause as much casualties as possible then kill themselves so surely the GIGN should have stormed the building sooner?

I thought they went in quickly, some so called expert was on the news saying it was certain to run for days....then about 20mins later it was all over. Just goes to show what these experts know!

Gilly · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:16

leoncc said:
I feel so sorry for the people trapped inside for that amount of time with no help and totally defenceless.

I can't believe so many lives were lost though, truly shocking.

Why did they take so long securing a perimeter around Bataclan when they must have been monitoring social networking sites knowing people were being executed for ages and pleading for help, I mean you know they are there to not negotiate, just cause as much casualties as possible then kill themselves so surely the GIGN should have stormed the building sooner?

It felt like no time and cannot have been much more than an hour, if any time at all. That's a remarkable turnaround.

Even then, and hopefully having been able to take some time, some of the police that stormed the theatre gave their life for their fellow man. As bad as it is today, it could have been worse.

The Running Man · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:16

When chelsea fans were done for racism, the club, the manager, the fans spoke out and acted. Words such as ashamed etc were bandied about.

Why does the Muslim community not feel.inclined to react in this way?

Raz · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:18

The Running Man said:
Why does the Muslim community not feel.inclined to react in this way?

Are you serious?

NickK · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:18

ISIS were considered too extreme by the extremists in Iraq.. they're point of view is that all muslims should pledge allegiance to their self-appointed nutcase leader. So in the end - he's trying to replace all islamic relationships to him as the spokes person of Allah. So although there may be some shared mileage in spreading Islam, the reality is it's far from what normal muslims would actually see as Islam.
For Muslims, at a personal level, it's considered unbrotherly/improper to question others belief publicly and religious leaders need to state this. This is from discussions with a work colleague at the time whose dad was in the Pakistan airforce.

Not being able to hold and air a different opinion, to me personally, is nuts. It's control pure and simple.

glenimp617 · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:19

Does anyone actually think that the events of last night will change anything?

Personally, I think that the world leaders will go on television and say things like "im shocked", "terrorists wont win", "freedom will not be diminished" and then everyone will carry on as normal

Random Guy · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:19

The Running Man said:
When chelsea fans were done for racism, the club, the manager, the fans spoke out and acted. Words such as ashamed etc were bandied about.

Why does the Muslim community not feel.inclined to react in this way?

Are you sure they haven't?

http://www.mcb.org.uk/horrific-attacks-in-paris-muslim-council-of-britain-responds/

Who exactly are you waiting to hear from?

thebennyboy · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:19

Sincerely hope that all those injured make a swift recovery and RIP to those who lost their lives.

Mynight · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:21

glen8 said:
Does anyone actually think that the events of last night will change anything?

Personally, I think that the world leaders will go on television and say things like "im shocked", "terrorists wont win", "freedom will not be diminished" and then everyone will carry on as normal

No I don't. It will be the standard lines after such an event yet nothing will change for the better. However I'm not sure what could be done to change things for the better now.

The damage is long since done and I don't imagine Isis will respond to any form of peace talks.

glenimp617 · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:21

Raz said:
Are you serious?

I know that whenever I see a crime being reported on the news, I personally make an apology on all the social media sites on behalf of humans

Raz · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:21

http://www.eastlondonmosque.org.uk/news/paris-attacks - East London Mosque
http://www.mcb.org.uk/horrific-attacks-in-paris-muslim-council-of-britain-responds/ - MCB

That's just two

Maccapacca · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:21

glen8 said:
what do you expect them to do

Write a few words? have an opinion? Clicking an app your mate has clicked so you do too isn't support. It's apathetic and massively empty.

glenimp617 · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:22

maccapacca said:
Write a few words? have an opinion? Clicking an app your mate has clicked so you do too isn't support. It's apathetic and massively empty.

Perhaps they will do both

Cosimo · 14 Nov 2015 at 15:23

Pigeon_Killer said:
She talks so much **** a blowjob from her could easily be classed as anal sex.

Quoted for the truth.

The Running Man said:
Where does he say, 'let's side with our homelands. The uk, France, Europe. Lets not allow them to associate us with these acts as we vocally disavow ourselves ftom them by flying the English and french flags from our mosques.

Just the Tricolor would do. What a sign of solidarity that would be.

Paris attacks.

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