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glen8 said:
I was making a point

You seriously don't expect all black people to apologise when a black person commits a crime, or all dog owners to apologise when a dog kills a small child. Why should all muslims have to apologise every time there's a terrorist attack.

I know people will say it's because of their religion, but that's rubbish as ISIS is not about religion. It's about power and control.

That's like saying when a christian commits a crime, all christians must apoligise.
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No it's like saying when a country accepts hundreds of thousands of immigrants who feel brotherly love for their religious mates and not their host countries see multiple attacks in a single year, caused by people from their original nation and of their religion, kill hundreds of civilians in terrorist attacks...Then the minimum we would expect, as their gracious hosts is a show of disaffection that that amounts to more than 50 words hidden away below the centreline of the mbc website.
 
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Find where the ISIS headquarters in, then drop my nagging mother in.

That would wear them down.
 
D1craig said:
well... yes, they are the "informers" are they not?

like i said after the Hebdo attack i doen maybe 30mins of research and only found one statement from a semi prominent figure in a muslim society condemning the act. all the other things i read said "yes it is disgusting but he deserved it (not in such few words minds) because he drew a picture we didnt like".

its upto the people that are being victimised to come out and inform us aswell, if they think they are being hard done by they should do something to ease our minds and actually condemn the atrocities without giving excuses for them.
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It sounds like you just expect to be spoon-fed information, to be honest. You can't have a a particularly high opinion of Muslims in the first place if your immediate assumption is that they're not condemning it.
 
bitslice said:
99.999% ?
God, the utter **** that muslim sympathisers dare to dribble in here.

survey:
51% of British muslims didn't oppose the idea that preaching hate against the West was OK

25% of British muslims were sympathetic to the Charlie Hebdo killers, so take a wild guess at how many in Pakistan were jumping for joy?
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No, the not so closeted racists are what is utter **** in here.

Get this straight, you are NOT stating facts. When a full census is done and you get some percentages you can use them as fact. When a paper asks 100-1000 people for their view, presuming their answers are accurate they can't be extrapolated to universal percentages because it's ridiculous.

A reporter goes to a pub outside the Chelsea stadium and asks 100 people inside who supports Chelsea, the result is 98% of people do, 2% don't like football.... does that mean 98% of the UK population support Chelsea?

Papers are biased, drama stirring **** that aren't accurate or trustworthy and haven't been for a very very long time.

If you want to find some facts which paint a race or group of people in a bad light there are MANY that are hard to argue with. Using a crap and tiny and entirely inaccurate poll as proof when you and everyone else keep talking about the same single tiny inaccurate poll it makes you look ridiculous and unintelligent.

You're a paper who wants to **** stir, you go to a specific mosque known for having horrible views and ask only people coming out you can get the results you are looking for when you start working on the story. Do you honestly think you'd get the same results if you asked 1000 muslims who had lived in the uk for three generations?
 
TheVoice said:
It sounds like you just expect to be spoon-fed information, to be honest. You can't have a a particularly high opinion of Muslims in the first place if your immediate assumption is that they're not condemning it.
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its not my immediate assumption it is from from things that are said or not said by the reporters.

if you are to apologise you go out and seek the audience that wants the apology you dont post it on local pages. that statement may aswell be in the muslim times or something. it was not an attack against muslims it was an attack against the western way of life. so they should seek out the western reporters and ask them to voice their views. its not hard.

basically we have just been attacked by them, we should not have to go to them for an apology they should come to us and give us the apology.

Christians did do things as bad as this but that was not in recent history and on such a scale.
 
bitslice said:
99.999% ?
God, the utter **** that muslim sympathisers dare to dribble in here.

survey:
51% of British muslims didn't oppose the idea that preaching hate against the West was OK

25% of British muslims were sympathetic to the Charlie Hebdo killers, so take a wild guess at how many in Pakistan were jumping for joy?

as I don't have any crayons left, here is a picture

I think we can safely assume these are not 'moderates',
If British muslims are quietly two faced about these attacks, then we can assume that musilms in the rest of the world will be a bit more forthcoming about their satisfaction.

Give the media a few days and they'll get you the pictures of muslims celebrating last nights Paris attacks.

#ParisBurns
#Parisinflames


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Your mentioned survey - did it in fact ask every single British muslim in the UK? I doubt it.

Those ***** you posted a pictured of - irrelevant to the current discussion as that is a group based in Pakistan right? Why are you conflating the issue by posting them here? Nonsense approach.

I stand by what I said - the vast majority of muslims are just as horrified by this as everyone else. Just because you decide to narrow your vision to the most ignorant, extremist of the bunch, doesn't mean diddly-squat.
 
glen8 said:
That's like saying when a christian commits a crime, all christians must apoligise.
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After the Catholic abuse thing, many individual Catholics went out of their way to apologise.

Islam behaves just like the Vatican were doing, constantly pretending that the fault does not lie at their door and they are not responsible for what individuals are doing, while all along they are secretly enabling it to continue by looking the other way.
 
glen8 said:
I know people will say it's because of their religion, but that's rubbish as ISIS is not about religion. It's about power and control.
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Of course Isis is about religion, Isis are Islamic, Isis members are all Muslims, are you implying they have nothing to do with the religion that they base their entire lives around, whose primary goal is an Islamic State, based entirely upon Islam? :confused:
 
Neil79 said:
So instead of TALKING, why don't they get off their asses and go out on the streets and condemn this barbaric attack? :mad:
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Unless they jumped on a plane and physically went to fight ISIS you or someone else would just say that wasn't enough and they should be doing something else.
 
SciNeT said:
Of course Isis is about religion, Isis are Islamic, Isis members are all Muslims, are you implying they have nothing to do with the religion that they base their entire lives around, whose primary goal is an Islamic State, based entirely upon Islam? :confused:
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No not at all, I'm just struggling to understand how so many people can be THAT stupid
 
Daze said:
How can you be racist against a religion :confused:
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You can't, there's no racism involved, no matter how hard some morons try to inject it. What race do Serbian Muslims belong to as opposed to Saudi Muslims as opposed to Iranian Muslims for example.
 
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