Soldato
Erm, because it's not really a measure of performance and is pointless?
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Pascal Titan-X Launch
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Erm, because it's not really a measure of performance and is pointless?
Cue post about playing games with three/four cards with MSAA cranked up.
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There willl most likely be a 1080Ti... It is very obvious because they do it every time...
The reason for this is :
They do not get full yeilds on the Titan X...
They then save up these cards and release them later as the xx80 Ti with less CUDA cores.
Unless the titan X is already cut down and does not have the full cuda cores...
If when they release the reviews we see that the Titan X already has some disabled shader units, then it is possible there will not be 1080ti... but I would say that is very unlikely.
The reason for this is :
They do not get full yeilds on the Titan X...
They then save up these cards and release them later as the xx80 Ti with less CUDA cores.
Unless the titan X is already cut down and does not have the full cuda cores...
If when they release the reviews we see that the Titan X already has some disabled shader units, then it is possible there will not be 1080ti... but I would say that is very unlikely.
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It was either Jayztwocents or Awesomesauce latest video where they said that Volta is expected in about 8-9 months time.
From what it looks like is the GP102 is on par with the telsa version ( same cores)with all the stuff not needed for gaming stripped out which would make the chip smaller than the telsa version I think some where around 454mm, Now nvidia can still make a large chip as they can go to 600mm which makes room for the gaming GP100 which has the same number of transistors at 15.3 Billion but all for gaming. so its just a case of utilizing the space effectively for the task. In terms of watering down a name, all anyone should ever care about is how much performance they get for there money, and if it makes them happy then so be it.
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there are some things we can read about it. not sure how accurate they are, of course.
http://growthfinancial.net/2016/07/...launch-first-volta-processors-in-may-of-2017/
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Titan cards have always had pointless amounts of vram, its one of the reasons its priced as high as it is.
This is also not the point I was trying to convey, seanspeed said that its the same quantity of vram but GDDR5X infering that the GDDR5X was the reason it wasnt more than 12GB and made up for the lack of high quantity of VRAM. I was mearly pointing out that the 1080/1070 had doubled the VRAM of the previous gen and was also GDDR5X.
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You have been very sensible holding off on ordering the 1080s before the case arrives. I was starting to worry it was just me waiting, will be 3 months next week since I ordered a Parvum L1 and still not received it. Had a pair of 1080s sat waiting to go in for a while now. Looks like the Titan X will release before I even get the 1080s in a case which is a bit of a slap in the face.
Still could be worse, I could still be waiting for the ASUS Strix 1080 OC to arrive when the Titan releases if I hadn't swapped already.
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So this surely confirms the 1080 Ti? I'm guessing they'll keep it under wraps and keep making a big margin on the 1080 until AMD can respond.
Guessing 3-6 months (or in this case whenever Vega is close).
So I answered your question yet I'm not surprised you found a way to try and dismiss it anyways....great.
It worked out fine. Fury was a disappointment for reasons other than its memory.
I'm saying the switch to GDDR5X and improving memory management algorithms makes it an equally big jump. Here's some numbers to assure you leaps are being made:
Kepler Titan
6GB GDDR5
6Ghz
288GB/s
Maxwell Titan
12GB GDDR5
7Ghz
336GB/s
Pascal Titan
12GB GDDR5X
10Ghz
488GB/s
The switch to GDDR5X is extremely relevant in not needing to throw more modules on there.
Other way around. Volta is the big new architecture. Pascal was not originally in plans, but was thrown in as a stop-gap architecture to have something for when the 14/16nm process was ready to go.
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Even though you can't get 8GB Vram on a 384-bit bus? So.. what? We're supposed to get a 6GB Ti? Less than the 1080? Or a Ti with also 12GB Vram but that'll ruin TX sales.
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you are not the first one who keeps saying pointless.
If you don't need it then fair enough. Gibbo was saying that Titans were being snapped up by corporations and I am pretty sure it's not to feed their employee's gaming habits.
My point, it's not pointless to others and there are other uses for those other than gaming.
Soldato
Will wait and see what the 1080Ti is like, 980Ti is still powerful and has decent resale value. Plus no games coming that I'm really interested in that could make use of a new card anyways.
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I guess the 1080 TI will be the first card which can run 4k ultra at crazy fps so that would be reason enough to get it
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Pascal was slotted in as a short term solution, and is basically Maxwell on a smaller process (16nm instead of 28nm)
Volta will be a much bigger and more significant architectural change.
Right, you're suggesting they have a completely new GPU in the works that nobody has gotten word of......and who wouldn't have a place in the naming scheme as GP100, 102, 104 and 106 are all taken...
I'm talking about from Nvidia's side. The Titan name is meant to be their flagship product. If they come out with a newer, bigger GPU later on than the Titan branding means nothing anymore. It's just another model in the lineup. Defeats the whole purpose of a 'flagship' product in terms of how a company uses it to boost brand perception.
Wow, this was a surprise. I was not expecting this so early. If it's up to 60% faster than an original Titan X, then according to my calculations, if correct, it's only up to 20-25% faster than a stock 1080 which isn't much for the price. I used this techpowerup review to get this https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/.
As others have said, this card may be what would traditionally be the 1080Ti and we'll see a true Titan card later with HBM2 for even more money called the TitanXX or whatever as Nvidia have no competition in this segment. This would be an inspired move by Nvidia, however, not good for the consumer or their wallet.
As others have said, this card may be what would traditionally be the 1080Ti and we'll see a true Titan card later with HBM2 for even more money called the TitanXX or whatever as Nvidia have no competition in this segment. This would be an inspired move by Nvidia, however, not good for the consumer or their wallet.
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The thing with 2 is it isn't actually faster it simply does not have Nvidia holding it back by stopping the creation of overclocked non reference versions by there board partners.
The only time I remember that not being the case was when OCUK & INNO3D did cherrypicked Titan Black chips with the Hercules cooler at the end of it's life. But that was when the ti did have the same cuda cores and only lacked the additional 3gb's of vram.