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PC Games Intel performance testing fake.

Well, that's me not buying Intel.

Oh wait, that happened last year when I got a 1950x!
 
sandys said:
Don't see the problem too much, they tested games in game mode and results come out rubbish because that is meant for machines with more cores than the 2700x, that's AMDs fault for making things too complex, an average user can make the same mistake without knowledge of platform.

Why wouldn't you put a software configurable chip in game mode when testing games? I'm sure the TR results would also not be in local mode either as that is not the default which would lead to poorer TR results in games also.
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:eek: For a member that has been on here since 2003, that is the most uneducated answer i think i have read. Have you not learned anything about benching in the last 15 years ? Obviously not. This is a so called professional site that has just made a complete mockery of the term "Pofessional"....................have you not read anything or even watched the videos ? I suggest you do.
 
kitfit1 said:
:eek: For a member that has been on here since 2003, that is the most uneducated answer i think i have read. Have you not learned anything about benching in the last 15 years ? Obviously not. This is a so called professional site that has just made a complete mockery of the term "Pofessional"....................have you not read anything or even watched the videos ? I suggest you do.
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It's not uneducated, I know quite well how Ryzen works, hence why I suggested it is an easy mistake to make, in the early days of Ryzen the big websites made mistakes on this too, particularly with game mode.

Mine runs just fine, just playing devils advocate really, no one has died :D

Intels statement is ultimately true, 9900x will be the best gaming chip, nothing changes here.

d1am0nd g33z3r said:
Anyone in a position to do a quick 2700X AotS Bench with Game Mode On & Off? I've been looking around for one but can't find anything.
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I've only got a 1900x but it is 40fps in game mode and 52fps normal, so quite a drop
 
so humbug whos pro amd posting " PC Games Intel performance testing fake. " isnt exactly the same ?

the simple truth is amd is way behind in gaming benchmarks. intel has the gaming crown. its been this way for about 15 years now. the only comeback amd has had is they try and market more cores to sell vs less mhz. so cause they cant compete they offer more slower cores. its that simple.thats why they offer you more cores. cause they cant compete.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
so humbug whos pro amd posting " PC Games Intel performance testing fake. " isnt exactly the same ?

the simple truth is amd is way behind in gaming benchmarks. intel has the gaming crown. its been this way for about 15 years now. the only comeback amd has had is they try and market more cores to sell vs less mhz. so cause they cant compete they offer more slower cores. its that simple.thats why they offer you more cores. cause they cant compete.
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Missing the point so hard your post reads like bait.

Anyone capable of reading a graph knows that Intel has faster cpus for gaming. They put their name on a grossly incompetent test that unfairly exaggerates this and are being mocked for it.

To claim "best gaming cpu" they didn't need to hold up lies but did anyway.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
so humbug whos pro amd posting " PC Games Intel performance testing fake. " isnt exactly the same ?

the simple truth is amd is way behind in gaming benchmarks. intel has the gaming crown. its been this way for about 15 years now. the only comeback amd has had is they try and market more cores to sell vs less mhz. so cause they cant compete they offer more slower cores. its that simple.thats why they offer you more cores. cause they cant compete.
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Yes, Intel performs better in the gaming segment... But not 50% better, which is the point of the thread. How could you have missed that?
 
It's funny how no-one was interested in 1080p frame rates with high end hardware until AMD became competitive. Up to that point it was all about trying to achieve 60fps+ at 4K. Now it's all about getting 135fps rather than lagging behind at only 125fps at 1080p.

The majority are running 1080p because they can't afford 4K hardware. 2080Ti performance with a 9900K at 1080p is about as irrelevant as it gets.
 
Troezar said:
It's funny how no-one was interested in 1080p frame rates with high end hardware until AMD became competitive. Up to that point it was all about trying to achieve 60fps+ at 4K. Now it's all about getting 135fps rather than lagging behind at only 125fps at 1080p.

The majority are running 1080p because they can't afford 4K hardware. 2080Ti performance with a 9900K at 1080p is about as irrelevant as it gets.
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Hit the nail on the head with this! It's crazy to use 1080p to benchmark a high end GPU and CPU as it's not how the system would be used by the end user. I don't even think the whole 'exposing cpu bottleneck' at 1080p really works as the results at 4k show a closing of the gap, and the CPU is working harder at 4k to push more data. The results at 4k being better surely means that the CPU benefits from higher resolutions rather than 1080p results somehow being predictive of future perforance.
 
Troezar said:
It's funny how no-one was interested in 1080p frame rates with high end hardware until AMD became competitive. Up to that point it was all about trying to achieve 60fps+ at 4K. Now it's all about getting 135fps rather than lagging behind at only 125fps at 1080p.

The majority are running 1080p because they can't afford 4K hardware. 2080Ti performance with a 9900K at 1080p is about as irrelevant as it gets.
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Not really, you'll find the majority are on 1080p for high refresh rate gaming. The hardware isn't there for 4k 144hz and some people don't wanna go 1440p when they know 4k is the holy grail.
 
gavinh87 said:
Not really, you'll find the majority are on 1080p for high refresh rate gaming. The hardware isn't there for 4k 144hz and some people don't wanna go 1440p when they know 4k is the holy grail.
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The majority of who? I bet the vast majority of gamers are running 1080p 60-75Hz screens with RX 580/GTX 1060 or below.
 
gavinh87 said:
Not really, you'll find the majority are on 1080p for high refresh rate gaming. The hardware isn't there for 4k 144hz and some people don't wanna go 1440p when they know 4k is the holy grail.
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But I'll bet you they don't have a 1080Ti or 2080Ti in the vast majority of cases. Also unlikely to have an 8700K or a 9900K when it comes out.

Easy way to check is the sales of high end CPUs and GPUs is far less than the sales of 1080p screens.
 
Troezar said:
But I'll bet you they don't have a 1080Ti or 2080Ti in the vast majority of cases. Also unlikely to have an 8700K or a 9900K when it comes out.

Easy way to check is the sales of high end CPUs and GPUs is far less than the sales of 1080p screens.
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I was waiting for the 9900k or the 9700k but for a 50% price hike there is no chance im even considering it, not because I couldnt eat the 50% but because of the market manipulation of the 8000 series, the little performance boost of the 9000 series and the disgustingly biased benchmarks paid for by Intel, if you couldn't pre-order the chips then I dont think it would be as much of a issue. I've always had Intel processors but now I'm waiting for Zen2, I don't like companies that I've be loyal to treating me like I'm an idiot.
 
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