PC Gaming is Dead

** Please stop the bickering or I will close the thread we have had enough PC gaming is dead threads to sink a battleship **

Stelly
 
PC Gaming is awesome! What’s the most hated game of the year? Probably something like Call of Duty Infinite Warfare (even hated by people who haven’t played it). Compared to the games I grew up on (Pacman, Digger and the worst Golf game ever) it is astonishing, and it still probably doesn’t make my top 20 games of the year.

Even with no proper games, the demos and mini-games on my Vive are literally mindblowing. I give my friends and family members a go just to see their reactions, gamers and non-gamers alike are blown away every time. Kids to grandparents with big stupid grins they can’t wipe off their faces afterwards. ‘Can I have another go’?

Someone said in another thread how 2016 was such an awful year for games, no originality etc. blah blah blah yakketty schmakkety:

Battlefield 1
Dishonored 2
Dark Souls 3
Deus Ex 4
Hitman
Civ 6
Firewatch
Forza
Doom
Overwatch
Tomb Raider
Total War: Warhammer
N++
WOW: Legion
F1 2016
Xcom 2
Superhot
Titanfall 2
Day of the Tentacle Remastered!
COD Modern Warfare Remastered!
Pony Island!

And I know there were brilliant games I missed.

I think the main reason people are unhappy is because they don’t really appreciate what they already have. I'm happy I do.
 
DooMeR said:
I play both on pc and console and from my experience console is far more fun these days than pc. As stupid as it sounds there is far less kiddy bs and drama on consoles.
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Oh come on you know thats hyperbole. I remember PS3 GT online racing as being full of the most obnoxious asshats imaginable. And don't even get me started on multiplayer fps gaming. You'll every imaginable insult possible not to mention stuff that would probably get arrested for if it was said in a public place.
 
There are idiots and on all platforms, the pcmr elitism is tiresome, pc gaming isn't dead, console gaming isn't dead, mobile gaming has become more popular and I reckon a lot of casual gamers have moved to gaming on their smart devices (~24% YoY growth).

Not sure how confident I am in these figures, but both pc and console gaming seem to be growing at similar rates (~4.5% YoY): http://resources.newzoo.com/global-games-market-report

VR may push things back towards consoles as the power requirement is less (?) or the consoles are more efficient at it; see ps vr.
 
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Sp00n said:
VR may push things back towards consoles as the power requirement is less (?) or the consoles are more efficient at it see ps vr.
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That is a good point regarding the performance gains using less power on a propitiatory system.

All depends how much VR is accepted. I hear lots of noise but am still waiting for that "killer" app to show me how awesome it is. Everything just seems like a proof of concept tech demo at the moment.

It could very easily become another "3D".

I also only have one "working" eye so I am not certain if it will work for me or others in similar situations.
 
PC gaming is not dead, far from it. Never owned any of the Xbox or PS consoles. Only owned a Wii. Just prefer PC gaming for the freedom and ability to improve my hardware over time to play stuff at max settings. Been a PC gamer since 95.

Also become addicted to modding games, Fallout 4 and Skyrim for example. Something that I'd be very limited with on a console.

I'm not PCMR but do find all that very amusing :)
 
Rezident said:
PC Gaming is awesome! What’s the most hated game of the year? Probably something like Call of Duty Infinite Warfare (even hated by people who haven’t played it). Compared to the games I grew up on (Pacman, Digger and the worst Golf game ever) it is astonishing, and it still probably doesn’t make my top 20 games of the year.

Even with no proper games, the demos and mini-games on my Vive are literally mindblowing. I give my friends and family members a go just to see their reactions, gamers and non-gamers alike are blown away every time. Kids to grandparents with big stupid grins they can’t wipe off their faces afterwards. ‘Can I have another go’?

Someone said in another thread how 2016 was such an awful year for games, no originality etc. blah blah blah yakketty schmakkety:

Battlefield 1
Dishonored 2
Dark Souls 3
Deus Ex 4
Hitman
Civ 6
Firewatch
Forza
Doom
Overwatch
Tomb Raider
Total War: Warhammer
N++
WOW: Legion
F1 2016
Xcom 2
Superhot
Titanfall 2
Day of the Tentacle Remastered!
COD Modern Warfare Remastered!
Pony Island!

And I know there were brilliant games I missed.

I think the main reason people are unhappy is because they don’t really appreciate what they already have. I'm happy I do.
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Same old same old then....

Apart from the odd one or 2....
 
mid_gen said:
Err no, that isn't how it works.
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Pretty much, in essence anyway.
Konami, I think, were big into console games but refused to release on PC, even though it'd cost them little more than the DVD-ROM burning, because the games already ran on PC.
Aforementioned Dev friend was ranting about precisely this, citing how PC gaming was indeed dead (despite also being PCMR himself) because of the above.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Pretty much, in essence anyway.
Konami, I think, were big into console games but refused to release on PC, even though it'd cost them little more than the DVD-ROM burning, because the games already ran on PC.
Aforementioned Dev friend was ranting about precisely this, citing how PC gaming was indeed dead (despite also being PCMR himself) because of the above.
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That really isn't how games development works.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Pretty much, in essence anyway.
Konami, I think, were big into console games but refused to release on PC, even though it'd cost them little more than the DVD-ROM burning, because the games already ran on PC.
Aforementioned Dev friend was ranting about precisely this, citing how PC gaming was indeed dead (despite also being PCMR himself) because of the above.
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Your friend is wrong. It takes a lot of work to get a good PC version of a game out the door.
 
mid_gen said:
*sigh* go on then....
They are working on PCs.
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The way Lying Dev explained it to me is that they basically create fully-fledged games that run on PC (which they have to, because that's what they're devving them on). They then add in the console controls (if not already there), functionality and little tweaks, before bunging it out the door to be put on disc and published.

All they'd need to do for a PC release is include the controller config, add in any PC-specific aspects and again bung it out the door. The PC side basically costs the publisher nothing as they've already done most of it in order to make the game, but publishers don't/didn't want to release on PC for reasons of piracy and what-have-you... which was what prompted the rant - I said I wanted a gaming PC and he started on about PC gaming being dead, with the above being his reasoning why.

Apparently you could find a few Console-Only releases on the usual torrent sites hacked and ported for PC, with the porting being done badly because it was a third party who didn't always know how it was structured, or were just amateurs.

That's the rough jist, anyway. It was a long and detailed rant about how it all works and why I would be wasting my time getting a PC for gaming... 4 years later, I'm very glad I ignored him!
 
It's a non-trivial amount of work to get a PC version out the door. Like I said, there's a good sized team in the next room that have been working on the PC version of one of our big upcoming titles for almost as long as the game has been in development.

They aren't doing any of the core game development, none, nada. Just the platform specific stuff. It's most definitely not a case of pressing the 'PC release' button and sending it off to Valve.
 
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