Pentagon releases UFO footage
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That's not really how science works lol.
Some totally unknown person just posting an essay about something on Reddit, and because they use long words and talk about genes and DNA, doesn't mean "the science is correct" that's just nonsense. Especially without any sort of peer review etc.
Like 100% of all claims to do with aliens, it comes with no evidence, no peer review, nothing that can be reviewed - it's just a story on Reddit, it's meaningless without further foundation and evidence.
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"Please disregard everything science has discovered for the past 200 years coz I found a reddit post and/or some bloke who wears a hat was told by someone else who also wears a hat saw something and/or a blurry video of a balloon lol"
That's a no from me
That's a no from me
As usual you have completely misunderstood what is being said and have little clue what we are talking about. The use of the science in terms of methodology is correct. The use of the science as in writing about molecular biology is correct.
Typically most fiction writers doing a quick story in 1 night would write fluffy BS Science that sort of sounds correct to people outside of that profession. But the methodology and science being written wouldn’t stand up to someone who has a Phd in molecular biology. We are not saying the story is true. Rather we are saying its not a story written up by a 13 year old in a basement in a few hours for fun. Rather it’s a well written bit of creative writing by someone who spent time on it and has a good knowledge of molecular biology to the point where they likely have a Phd or work in that profession.
Let me break it down in simple terms for you as I know you are not good with details. When fiction writers write about hard science subjects they usually put down quick fluffy BS science that sounds correct to readers who don’t know any better. That is not the case with this work we are talking about.
Roar87 and myself are talking about the incredible amounts of creative thinking and correct use of Scientific knowledge that went into that creative writing. As I said before I can appreciate the thought, intelligence, time and skill that went into writing this work.
What claims to do with aliens? You seem confused again. Everyone knows while I say UFO’s are real I am not convinced they are Aliens but rather more likely unmanned military drones using technology that is not public or something like that.
As for no evidence, no peer review you mean like your fake debunks, your made-up fake narratives and all the times you refused to give evidence or acknowledge details. Your the one that keeps making up fake claims often without any real evidence.
You posted a link to Reddit, of somebody who'd written what looks to me, to be a story or an account of something that in my opinion is very unlikely. You then go on to claim that it's most likely legitimate, purely because of how the account was written, along with the language and words used within it, you provide no other evidence, foundation or reason why.
This isn't scientific at all, it's baloney.
It doesn't matter what a person writes, how fancy the language is, what the persons name, credentials or shoe size is - what matters is evidence, and whether the claims being made can be tested, falsified or compared to experiment, nature or experience.
None of the latter applies in this case, because it's most likely a load of unsubstantiated nonsense posted on Reddit.
This is why I cannot take you seriously. As this is yet another example of how you make up fake events and fake narratives. First of all I did not post the link to this creative writing. Second I did not claim its more likely legitimate purely because of how its written. So this is another case of you seeing things that are not there, misunderstanding the situation and creating yet another fake narrative in your head.
In fact I did the opposite of calling it legitimate and called it a well written bit of fiction in the form of creative writing. What I said was its an impressive work of creative writing most likely by someone who works in the field or had a background in the subject of molecular biology rather then a 13 year old. Do you know what creative writing is? Writing that is typically fiction or poetry, which displays imagination or invention. Which perfectly describes this. Or to put it in simple terms creative writing is the "art of making things up".
Pottsey, you do seem to post with a “faux centrist” style - clearly trying to make it look like you’re being objective, whilst it’s clear to everybody you wish for these things to be related to other worldly aliens. This absolutely gets people’s backs up.
As for the Reddit post, clearly written by somebody with a good understanding of genetics. What lets the validity of the post down is I would expect somebody associated with this project - or with such a high level understanding of genetics - to be providing a much more detailed account of the biological aspects of the story. Very basic, generic, Alien trope-aligned descriptions of organs, but with a well thought out top level overview of the genetic information massively lends itself to be a work of fiction in my opinion.
I think theoretically had I worked on the genetics of such a project I’d have a much better understanding of the overall biology from speaking to colleagues and reading related data.
As for the Reddit post, clearly written by somebody with a good understanding of genetics. What lets the validity of the post down is I would expect somebody associated with this project - or with such a high level understanding of genetics - to be providing a much more detailed account of the biological aspects of the story. Very basic, generic, Alien trope-aligned descriptions of organs, but with a well thought out top level overview of the genetic information massively lends itself to be a work of fiction in my opinion.
I think theoretically had I worked on the genetics of such a project I’d have a much better understanding of the overall biology from speaking to colleagues and reading related data.
I couldn't find the comments again but there were a few seemingly genuine experts on there who pointed out the holes in the OP. Lots of people stated how well it was written but there were some apparent experts on there who picked up some valid criticisms. Huge pinch of salt required me thinks. Would be interesting if it was true though!
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The person who linked the original reddit post is on my ignore list, so all I saw was you linking the post people were talking about, or a post it was related to. (who cares?)
It was you who said "the science checks out" which I just thought was funny, and I asked you to clarify how you came to that conclusion, and you went off on a tangent about me creating fake narratives and fake events, and the same old nonsense.
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I saw that reddit post and couldn't understand the point made at the end about the aliens spiritual beliefs regarding the soul. How do they even know what they believe? Did he/they speak to it when it was alive and ask it?
He explains in the post that they're just studying recovered bodies, so there was obviously a craft which would likely be studied separately that could have more information about them.
I don't know why the majority of people post in threads like this, you're essentially hardcore skeptics, you don't find the subject interesting and if you were stood in front of an Alien you'd be trying to pull it's mask off or insist it was an illusion. You know without clicking on the reddit thread that there isn't rock solid evidence, it's something that's fun/interesting/entertaining to read and speculate about. Instead of doing that though we get incredibly boring pedantic people in this thread just being condescending and not contributing to a fun or interesting discussion. If you're a hardcore skeptic then perhaps a UFO/Aliens thread might not be for you. Pretty much just bore off
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It’s another example of how what you described as what happened is different to what really happened. I am also curious if you have that person blocked how did you click the link and read the link?
Now it appears as though its very likely you haven’t even seen any of the content we are talking about. You seem quick to make judgments on content that you say is blocked to you. Perhaps if you read the link you would understood what I was talking about in terms of science and it checks out. The use of molecular biology and the methodology behind how its used is written well in that work of fiction.
Yes I said the science checks out as it does. Since it appears as though you never looked at the link as it was blocked for you. The work of fiction was based on a molecular biologist who worked in a lab talking about molecular biologist stuff and the person who wrote it got the molecular biologist science right, hence the science checks out which was why I was impressive with it as a bit of creative writing as typically writers get this type of science wrong.
You did ask me to clarify. I was clear in saying the Science I was talking about was science in terms of methodology and the link is clearly written by someone with a good level of knowledge in molecular biology.
It wasnt me that went on a tangent. Right after I called it an impressive bit of fiction/creative writing. You did your usual fake narrative thing of trying to push the opposite to what I said. You’re the one that falsely said I posted the link (fake event), you’re the one that falsely said I am trying to make it sound more legitimate purely based on how its written despite me saying its fiction (fake narrative). Your the one that went on about "without any sort of peer review etc" for something I was calling an impressive bit of creative writing. You’re the one that said its not scientific at all, it's baloney when its clearly is scientific in terms on content.
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So for you to come out with that conclusion I presume you have an expertise in that science?
I know I wouldn't have a clue. there are subjects that I do know about - music equipment, guitars, amps, PA, recording, domestic appliances, Inquests, Clinical Negligence etc and I'd weed somebody out in an instance if they were full of BS.
Science I don't know and especially molecular biology but you must do.
Not directly myself. While I have an interest in Science I am a very long way from having an expertise in molecular biology. Though I do know a handful of biology scientists/teachers in real life due to my job.
I clicked the button that says "show ignored content".
Ok, so you're making a big deal about this being science fiction, which is a bit of a U-turn, because earlier you seemed to be quite excited about what went on in the lab discussed in the Reddit post:
Interesting U-turn,
"Oh, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out as that is the same lab......"
later on;
It's the same as half of the things you've posted in this thread, as @MoNkeE pointed out. You have a habit of posting something, making a song and a dance and making obvious insinuations about it, then you sort of backtrack and start a huge argument, when you're unable to clarify things.
Ah yes and here's another boring post from @Screeeech not discussing the topic, he's simply here to snort in derision
There is no you turn because you are completely wrong about what you think happened. Though I believe UFO's are real though more likely from a man made source. I don't believe live aliens are visiting us so why would I believe a story about a biologist study on an alien life form that has zero evidence? What I was interested in from the link I posted is he knows a molecular biologist in a lab at that fort. As per his post. He intends to ask this biologists about her analysis of the technical claims to see if the science is meaningful or a bunch of BS. To quote the person in the link I gave “my purpose here is to get a legitimate opinion from an expert in the field on the technical aspects” I was interested in it from a science point of view. As I explained before usually fiction writers make up bunch of BS that sounds correct rather then get the science right. That is what interested me as I explained to you multiple times. So how about you admit you misread my post and we can move on.
So you are not able to admit your mistake that is clear for everyone to see? Instead you are attempting, rather poorly I might add to deflect away from what you got wrong. I don’t know what you expect out of this thread as everyone can look back at the quotes and reread the past pages to see I am telling the truth and you are either lying or mistaken about what you think happened.
I haven’t backtracked that’s just another fake narrative you are using which I can only assume is some poor attempt at deflection. You are the one making a song and dance over fake claims and fake events that you made up.
As for unable to clarify things. See https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/pentagon-releases-ufo-footage.18885266/post-36504749 I clarified my stance clearly within 45mins of my first post. That clearly states what I meant by science and how I think the work is fiction. That post is 100% clear with no insinuations.
You created fake insinuations after this post. So as far as I concerned this is settled. What happened is you misread a bunch of posts, then you made up fake events and fake claims based on your misreading of a clear post. So can we now move on and get back on topic? I am sure no one else wants us to go back and fourth on this anymore.
You can’t post a fantasist thread about UFOs and being visited by aliens on a computer hardware forum and only want people to participate in an echo chamber. What do you want, a whole thread of “great link, thanks for the information”?
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You're the one linking Reddit threads on /r/aliens, so you'll have to answer that one yourself....
You can attempt to gaslight me all you like, but at the end of the day, you're the one posting these links not me, I'm just asking for evidence, or some foundation other than "This guy uses fancy words, so it must be aliens right?"