People to actually look at the content posted and discuss it rather than attack posters who've read it
Pentagon releases UFO footage
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People to actually look at the content posted and discuss it rather than attack posters who've read it
Soldato
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As I pointed out yesterday those are fake events you made up. Just look at yesterday where you assigned link claims to me that I did not make. Anyway I have been consistent in this thread in saying I think UFO's are real but not Aliens more likely classified military craft using technology that is ahead of what civilian's have access to. I am sure you have created an entirely different fake narrative in our head. But that is my stance and anyone and do a search to see I am telling the truth.
Unless I forgot a link from a while back as far as I recall I posted to /r/aliens a grand total of 1 time. That one time was in reference to some fiction where I said I was interested in seeing if the science is correct in the creative writing.
This happens time and time again. You make up a fake events. Fast forward to another day then you refer back to those made up events of yours. Just like when you created that entire crypto delusion as a debunk.
So now instead of admitting you made a mistake and misread my post which has been proven with a quote. Its somehow my fault you made a mistake. Everyone can see my post has not been edited. https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/pentagon-releases-ufo-footage.18885266/post-36504749
There is no gaslighting from me. You just got in wrong and for some strange reason instead of admitting you misread something you are going further and further down the rabbit hole making up excuses on how you didn’t read it wrong.
Now who is gaslighting? The claim some guy is using fancy words so it must be aliens came from you. That narrative is one you created. Until you brought that up no one else had mentioned that or even made insinuations towards that.
As the others have said you seem to only be here to snort in derision and when you cannot do that you make up fake narratives and fake events as has been proven, then you snort in derision at that.
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I WANT TO BELIEVE.
I've been into UFOlogy from the age of 13 and now I'm 65 with time running out and sad to say I may never get my answers.
However I'm not willing to listen to any made up nonsense on the subject no matter how big some of the words are.
I need 100% proof and if that's a spacecraft landing on Earth with undeniable proof it happened then I'm in.
Similar here, I would love it to be true but experience over the years has shown that these stories often amount to pretty much nothing.
Still interested in unidentified flying objects though.
You said the post I linked was written by a 13 year old without even reading any of it, despite multiple people in the comments saying it had to be written by someone with a hardcore understanding of molecular biology, yet you're saying you want to believe? lol
You guys are taking this “13 year old” comment way too literally. It was intended as a humorous remark to indicate someone with too much time on their hands.
I still put no stock in what any of the commenters think about the matter in that post, the individual words may make sense scientifically but none of them are proof of anything.
Lastly, when did you develop mind-reading abilities?
What’s this then?
That very much looks to me, like a link to Reddit, on r/aliens….
Your joking, right? You just referred to the one exception I listed in my post that you just quoted.
“Unless I forgot a link from a while back as far as I recall I posted to /r/aliens a grand total of 1 time. That one time was in reference to some fiction where I said I was interested in seeing if the science is correct in the creative writing.” Which is the link you just referred to.
Look at https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/pentagon-releases-ufo-footage.18885266/post-36505523 as an example of a fake event you made up.
My point is you are misreading and misremembering posts then blaming me for your mistake. Anyway, that’s enough of you trying to derail this thread. Its time to move onto something else. I have proven my point and the quotes show I am telling the truth and you are the one in the wrong. No wants us to spend next week going back and fourth over your mistake.
lol
So you post a load of nonsense from r/aliens on Reddit, then say "The science checks out" (which it doesn't)
What did you expect to happen Pottsey? For everybody to just nod and go "Yep, no problem with that, seems legit bro"
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I thought that my question was a valid one. The conclusion at the end about their belief in the soul seemed speculative at best and out of place. It had the appearance of being a projection of the author's own beliefs about the soul.
I suspect the increased focus on UFO's is more about the US flexing on Russia, and more specifically China, about new technology.
If we look back at advanced technology in the past, especially flying objects, the US had been testing them for decades previous.
I'm thinking there is either some new fuel and/or propulsion on the horizon, as with net zero targets on present course we're not going to meet them. But if a new energy source suddenly appeared in the public space it would be a game changer. They just need to figure out how to bleed the most money out of the people for the old technology first, and then find a way to bleed the most money out of the people with the new technology.
If we look back at advanced technology in the past, especially flying objects, the US had been testing them for decades previous.
I'm thinking there is either some new fuel and/or propulsion on the horizon, as with net zero targets on present course we're not going to meet them. But if a new energy source suddenly appeared in the public space it would be a game changer. They just need to figure out how to bleed the most money out of the people for the old technology first, and then find a way to bleed the most money out of the people with the new technology.
What nonsense from r/aliens? are you still under the delusion that I have been posting multiple links from r/aliens? Have you already forgotten you made those events up about multiple links being posted by me. That never happened outside of that one link which has been explained and had nothing to do with live Aliens. That one link that had no nonsense. Where are all these other links you claim? Where are the nonsense claims from r/aliens I apparently posted? If I forgot about one from a long time ago show me. Can you quote a post? I don't think you can because its all a fake narrative you made up to cover up that you made a mistake.
In terms of what I was talking about can you explain which bit of science doesn’t check out? Clearly you think the writer made a mistake so you must know what they got wrong in terms of the science I was talking about. After all if I am wrong and the science doesn't check out from the point of view of methodology in molecular biology you must be able to explain what the writer got so wrong. So just what is wrong? Why are the real biologists saying the science checks out and is correct from the point of view of methodology if its not? So just what is it you spotted that all the molecular biologists are wrong about and you have figured out is really incorrect?
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This:
It's not science and there is no methodology.
When you "do science", it requires a hypothesis, a description of the methodology used, results, evidence, a conclusion then further discussion, peer review and references.
The thread linked on Reddit in r/aliens and then the other thing linked by yourself contain nothing scientific at all. If you think it does - you need to go and learn the basics first.
It doesn't matter how many super-duper molecular biologists who post in that thread say that it "checks out" or "it's legit", they're all wrong, because there's no evidence, no experimental results, no peer-review and nothing that can be checked or validated, it's just a story posted on Reddit.
That's the whole point of science @Pottsey Posting stories on Reddit, which appear to have been written a certain way isn't science, because it doesn't follow the scientific method.
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Yeah I'm with you. I love poking my head in here occasionally for a giggle. Aliens
just like with religion there is never an actual shred of evidence. Someone working on alien bodies for years but not one person has ever managed to even sneak some skin cells out as proof.Hey I'm all for people believing crazy **** but don't expect others not to come in an question it. Especially when the claims out literally out of this world.
So basically, you have been misreading post after post despite everything being clearly explained to you multiple times. We are talking about a work of fiction as I have been saying since the start. The work of fiction is not real but is based on science with a Biologist doing molecular biology work in a lab.
As it’s a work of fiction it doesn’t need to have “results, evidence, a conclusion then further discussion, peer review and references.” Your nuts to do that to a work of fiction. I was talking about the use of science as in how the science is written about and I couldn’t have been clearer as I explained that to you multiple times.
To quote myself responding to you and I will bold since you seem to keep missing it in every other post “The use of the science as in writing about molecular biology is correct.”
Let me quote myself some more
“Typically most fiction writers doing a quick story in 1 night would write fluffy BS Science that sort of sounds correct to people outside of that profession. But the methodology and science being written wouldn’t stand up to someone who has a Phd in molecular biology. We are not saying the story is true. Rather we are saying it’s not a story written up by a 13 year old in a basement in a few hours for fun. Rather it’s a well written bit of creative writing by someone who spent time on it and has a good knowledge of molecular biology to the point where they likely have a Phd or work in that profession.
Let me break it down in simple terms for you as I know you are not good with details. When fiction writers write about hard science subjects they usually put down quick fluffy BS science that sounds correct to readers who don’t know any better. That is not the case with this work we are talking about.”
When I say the Science is correct the writer didn’t use made up BS science words like so many authors do. Instead they used the correct molecular biology Science words. As I explained before creative writing = fiction, a made-up story with creative use of imagination.
Which part of this is so hard for you to understand? Why do you keep going on like you think this thread is talking about this as though its real? There is only 1 person talking about this story as though its real and its you.
You are the one acting like the story is real with all your accusations. You’re the one bringing up all the nonsense about it being real. Your the one that called the link I posted that says it fake and a made up story a load of nonsense. So you disagree that its a made up story, if you don't disagree why are you calling the link that says its a made story nonsense? Why are you arguing against my link that says its fake along with my posts that says its a made up story?
Your the one that brought up stuff like “"This guy uses fancy words, so it must be aliens right?" those are your words not mine. Your the one that seems to want to Peer review the work of fiction.
“Like 100% of all claims to do with aliens, it comes with no evidence, no peer review, nothing that can be reviewed “
It’s a work of fiction so what you are saying makes no sense. The only person to refer to claims its real is you.
“You then go on to claim that it's most likely legitimate, purely because of how the account was written, along with the language and words used within it, you provide no other evidence, foundation or reason why.” Said by Screeeech
I never made this claim. You created that claim in your head. From the start I have been saying its a work of fiction, a made up story but well written. You are making up fake events and fake narratives. You are making up fake claims and assigning them to me. Just like you did with the links I never posted that you claimed I did. Then you have the nerve to say I am the one gaslighting. Look at what you are doing.
This is a long post due to the quotes. So TLDR:
In short everyone is talking about a work of fiction and how well its written for a work of fiction and I posted a link that says the work is fiction. While Screeeech says that link is a load of nonsense then goes on to shout bloody murder that the work is unsubstantiated, not peer reviewed, not legitimate, no evidence. While making up fake claims and assigning them to people. That about sums up the weekend.
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If you want to call it science, or say "the science checks out" as you did, then it has to follow the scientific method, otherwise it's not science at all - and it's wrong to suggest that the science checks out, or that because of how it's written, makes it any more believable.
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I think if it does emerge that 'aliens' do exist etc etc, a lot of people on these forums are going to be scraping a lot of egg off of their faces!
I am not in a position to dismiss all this alien stuff. I really dont know what to think about it except to keep an open mind.
I am not in a position to dismiss all this alien stuff. I really dont know what to think about it except to keep an open mind.