Pentagon releases UFO footage

Pottsey said:
The Congress briefing very clearly said both events involved jamming. Radar went down, flir system malfunctioned. Plus Congress took a field trip to Eglen Air Force Base to directly look at the evidence with there own eyes. They confirmed it was a craft of unknown origin and there was high resolution photos.

Matt Gaetz said
“We asked to see any of the evidence that had been taken by flight crew in this endeavor and to observe any radar signature, as long as, as well as to meet with the flight crew.”

“we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability either from the United States or from any of our adversaries And I’m somewhat informed on the matter having served on the armed services committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and Advanced Technologies for several years. “

They confirmed there was a high resolution photo of a craft so we know its not a bird. They confirmed both events has jamming with radar being knocked offline again Birds and balloons don't do that.

Like I said before calling it a bird or Balloon it just CT level nonsense at this point.
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If something was jamming equipment it wasn’t mentioned or described in these hearings. IF something was jamming, it was something else.
 
Pottsey said:
The Congress briefing very clearly said both events involved jamming. Radar went down, flir system malfunctioned. Plus Congress took a field trip to Eglen Air Force Base to directly look at the evidence with there own eyes. They confirmed it was a craft of unknown origin and there was high resolution photos.

Matt Gaetz said
“We asked to see any of the evidence that had been taken by flight crew in this endeavor and to observe any radar signature, as long as, as well as to meet with the flight crew.”

“we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability either from the United States or from any of our adversaries And I’m somewhat informed on the matter having served on the armed services committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and Advanced Technologies for several years. “

They confirmed there was a high resolution photo of a craft so we know its not a bird. They confirmed both events has jamming with radar being knocked offline again Birds and balloons don't do that.

Like I said before calling it a bird or Balloon it just CT level nonsense at this point.
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It's 100% nonsense until we get to see compelling evidence. I literally don't care who says otherwise.

If we never get to see compelling evidence (why not?) then it will always be 100% nonsense, and nothing but nonsense.

Especially because, even tho these "craft" are busy showing off to the US military, and holding hands with people who believe in ET, they won't be so good as to reveal themselves to non-believers :p So **** em :p They ain't getting my vote until they come to my town and give me a good probing.
 
FoxEye said:
It's 100% nonsense until we get to see compelling evidence. I literally don't care who says otherwise.
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I'm in the same vein to be honest,

If this does turn out to be real, and there is actual alien or breakthrough technology being exhibited - then I'll happily hold my hands up and say "I was wrong" and I'll be happy to do that, because the discovery and proof that it's there will be worth the embarassment of being wrong the whole time.
 
Sankari said:
What reason? And why do we never find any debris from these alleged crashes?
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I was playfully poking fun at the people who say "Super mega tech aliens cross universe then crash, lol, not gonna happen". I don't know if anything has really crashed and I'm not invested in either position. But I could imagine a vastly superior intelligence being many times more subtle than us. Maybe they want to downplay their tech level. Maybe it is teenage aliens trolling humans. Murder/suicide like MH370. Or the pilot got a bit stoned on space drugs. Just saying if you have aliens then it isn't inconceivable that aliens might crash on earth.
 
Screeeech said:
I'm in the same vein to be honest,

If this does turn out to be real, and there is actual alien or breakthrough technology being exhibited - then I'll happily hold my hands up and say "I was wrong" and I'll be happy to do that, because the discovery and proof that it's there will be worth the embarassment of being wrong the whole time.
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If anyone is in possession of alien technology, why are all human factions fighting each other with human technology?

Or does anyone really believe that, "Far far away, in another galaxy, the US and Russia are fighting each other with light-sabers." Having both used advanced alien tech to discretely leave Earth so nobody believes they've got advanced alien tech. And that matters to them because, reasons.

The reality of human behaviour is that whomever got an advantage from alien tech first would use it. The only plausible explanation for not seeing it is that nobody has it.
 
Screeeech said:
I'm in the same vein to be honest,

If this does turn out to be real, and there is actual alien or breakthrough technology being exhibited - then I'll happily hold my hands up and say "I was wrong" and I'll be happy to do that, because the discovery and proof that it's there will be worth the embarassment of being wrong the whole time.
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Honestly, if any of these claims are close to true it changes the world.

We instantly rocket up the Kardashev scale. Everyone at space x is made redundant, fission and fusion reactor tech is dead. We build a Dyson sphere and populate galaxy in our lifetime.
 
jigger said:
Honestly, if any of these claims are close to true it changes the world.

We instantly rocket up the Kardashev scale. Everyone at space x is made redundant, fission and fusion reactor tech is dead. We build a Dyson sphere and populate galaxy in our lifetime.
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I’d like to help with populating the galaxy.
 
Pottsey said:
The Congress briefing very clearly said both events involved jamming. Radar went down, flir system malfunctioned. Plus Congress took a field trip to Eglen Air Force Base to directly look at the evidence with there own eyes. They confirmed it was a craft of unknown origin and there was high resolution photos.

Matt Gaetz said
“We asked to see any of the evidence that had been taken by flight crew in this endeavor and to observe any radar signature, as long as, as well as to meet with the flight crew.”

“we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability either from the United States or from any of our adversaries And I’m somewhat informed on the matter having served on the armed services committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and Advanced Technologies for several years. “

They confirmed there was a high resolution photo of a craft so we know its not a bird. They confirmed both events has jamming with radar being knocked offline again Birds and balloons don't do that.

Like I said before calling it a bird or Balloon it just CT level nonsense at this point.
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Would you be this passionate if the meeting was about witness reports on finding God, Allah, Jesus etc but it's all evidence that you are not allowed to see?
Would you really argue the toss over not being shown or would you be like us?
It's like you believe every word of Bernadette Soubirous in Lourdes because she says she saw the Virgin Mary, it's just ridiculous how you are arguing about it.
 
FoxEye said:
For the love of super advanced alien technology, will people please stop posting Twitter links :p I can't be the only person for whom Twitter (inc embedded) doesn't load, at all...
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You're not. It doesn't load for me either and now I can't even click the link to see the content because you now need to log into Twitter to read anything on Twitter. Or whatever it's called this week. Muskville. I don't know.
 
The Funktopus said:
Perhaps our world is such a miserable place that it’s become the place the rest of the cosmos goes to end it all? We’re an intergalactic suicide hotspot. Or you know, an average truck stop.
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Perhaps Earth is a favoured spot for fly-tipping. Got a knackered old spaceship you want to dump without paying disposal fees? Just chuck it at Earth. There's nothing important there.
 
Screeeech said:
So no evidence of anything then, no evidence of ECM, no evidence of any craft - just a statement from a politician.
Why am I not suprised?
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Just a statement from the Pilots, Commanding officer and a group of Government officials who did a field trip to confirm the data. Not a single politician a group who went to investigate the data. As for evidence on the Craft a field trip was taken by a group of them with security Clarence to view the data directly both the footage and radar data.
But I guess you’re a bit of a conspiracy theorist who thinks all of them are lying for no reason. At this point we have zero reason to doubt them that a craft of unknown origin was involved.

Just because your duck idea was proven to be a load of nonsense, it doesn’t mean all of them are lying.

A human craft that engaged ECM to put out false readings on the radar is realistic and likely. ECM can make a target appear as separate targets and to disappear or move about randomly. Given two fighter jets were said as being hit by ECM. Then a human made craft of unknown origin using ECM would explain away everything reported in the events including the strange movements. The strange movements are likely just the ECM making the main target disappear and a false target appearing further away which was where the impossible moment of the object moving from point A to Point B came from.

Given the amount of people that confirmed ECM was used and the amount of people who have seen the raw data and said it’s a craft. The simple solution is it’s a human craft that used ECM.
To call it duck and that everyone is lying for no reason and with nothing to gain is entering conspiracy theorist level of nonsense. So you think the entire Government group all lied about it being a craft. You think all the pilots, weapon officers, commanding officer, technicians and all the others involved are also lying. Or you know you Screeech has made yet another mistake about calling it a Bird/Duck.





jigger said:
“If something was jamming equipment it wasn’t mentioned or described in these hearings. IF something was jamming, it was something else.”
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ECM Jamming was directly mentioned multiple times by multiple people in the hearing. They used the word craft and confirmed they witnessed the photos and the radar sequence of the craft while on a field trip to the base. Your idea about ducks/birds is wrong. ECM would explain the seemly impossible movements as the main craft disappears and a false reading appeared off in the distance. ECM can be setup to make the main target to move around randomly while the position of the real target disappears.

Its the simplest and most likely explanation and it doesn't require the conspiracy theorist level of nonsense about a Duck/bird that you and Screeeech are pushing which requires not only the people on the day to be lying but the entire group on the field trip to investigate the data afterwards to also be lying.
 
I feel that the whole discussion on aliens is always falling into the same conspiracy pitfalls of if the information isn't there, it's been hidden, not "lost" or "didn't exist", and if the information does exist but it doesn't support your result that aliens have landed then it's been "doctored" or "altered" it pushes back any meaningful discussion.
 
Pottsey said:
Given the amount of people that confirmed ECM was used and the amount of people who have seen the raw data and said it’s a craft. The simple solution is it’s a human craft that used ECM.
To call it duck and that everyone is lying for no reason and with nothing to gain is entering conspiracy theorist level of nonsense. So you think the entire Government group all lied about it being a craft. You think all the pilots, weapon officers, commanding officer, technicians and all the others involved are also lying. Or you know you Screeech has made yet another mistake about calling it a Bird/Duck.
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Ok well lets not get carried away.

The Duck/Bird/Balloon is what I think (and just about anybody with common sense) the gofast video is, you're talking about something else completely different which hasn't been seen by anybody, other than a small group of people who are making the claim?

Secondly, when you say "The entire government group, all the pilots, weapon oficers, commanding officers, technicians" exactly how many people can we confirm say they saw this? It feels like you're spinning things by just throwing things into the mix, was it 2 people who saw it, or 50? Names? Do you have a link or video which I can read/watch which mentions this ECM jamming stuff?
 
Just some notes and things to consider on the legal side.

Grusch has a pretty qualified lawyer representing him, a former Inspector General himself. Seems like a bad move for your credibility taking this case if it is all hot air.

Charles McCullough is a former Presidentially-appointed and Senate confirmed Inspector General. Specifically, he was the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (IC IG). In this role, he reported directly to then-Director of National Intelligence, the Honorable James R. Clapper, and oversaw intelligence officers responsible for audits, inspections, investigations. Furthermore, he was responsible for inquiries involving the Office of the Director of National Intelligence as well as the entire Intelligence Community.
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I have also been informed by someone who worked in the legal team overseeing the UAP wording added to the 2024 NDAA, that Chuck Schumer's separate "Disclosure bill" was drafted with direct oversight from the White House. Let that one sink in.

thehill.com

‘Non-human intelligence’: Schumer proposes stunning new UFO legislation

Fortunately, the public may not have to wait for the new legislation to become law to learn more about what the U.S. government knows about UAP.
thehill.com thehill.com

As I understand, Grusch did have direct access to satellite imagery showing UAP during his time at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA). This evidence was submitted to the IG and in coordination with Schumer's bill it will be reviewed and declassified to the public.

As I said a few posts ago, expect satellite imagery as the next step.
 
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