Pentagon releases UFO footage

ianh said:
The image quality of "Laser Designation Pods" is often surprisingly low for those who don't see them that much as they imagine that these would be amazing. The RAF has used 3 different generations which have a approximate "resolution" of their CCD/FLIR as follows -

1st Gen "Pave Spike" from the 70's - approx 128x128 resolution
2nd Gen "Tiald" from the late 80's - approx 256x256 resolution
3rd Gen "Litening 3/Sniper" from mid 2000's to now - approx 1024x1024 resolution

3rd Gen is currently the standard across the RAF, USAF and NATO etc and it's still not what people would consider "HD". Also, even if it were, the way the aircraft actually records the information can have a huge impact on image quality, so much so that what the pilot see's directly on his screens is often better than what we would see as a recording. So for example a Tornado GR4 flying over Syria in 2019 viewing their 3rd Gen Litening 3 pod on just a 800x600 AMLCD screen will still have been recording the images on a multi-track S-VHS tape from the late 80's for viewing back at base!
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Is the plane's software written in COBOL? :)

I'm guessing that the general idea is "proven to work", but it seems a bit odd that a plane costing tens of millions has much worse imaging than a cheap children's toy.
 
Angilion said:
I'm guessing that the general idea is "proven to work", but it seems a bit odd that a plane costing tens of millions has much worse imaging than a cheap children's toy.
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These aren't phone cameras, they're FLIR; forward-looking infrared. A handheld system at a lower resolution costs £40-60 grand, even ignoring the fact they have multiple FOV options and advanced tracking etc.
 
Interesting they seemed to be going into the water.

What makes me think it's something manmade is the height - almost exactly 20k feet. What are the odds aliens are using human measurements that are standard in aviation and sitting at exactly 20k? Sounds like a human designated altitude.
 
Surely this is disinformation 101? Show publicly that the best of the best, pilots, tech can’t identify something, whilst secretly you have full details on what might be a potential future enemies tech?

isn’t this the whole thing around Roswell, a way to distract away from ultra high tech secret skunk work planes being flown?
 
I've posted this before, but it's almost certainly advanced USA tech that other areas of the military and most of their government likely don't even know exist.

The Pentagon wouldn't release anything that they're not already more than happy to already be out there. Alien UFO conspiracies offer a great smokescreen to cover up what has always been the most likely option that it's human made technology from extremely secret levels of the US military, by far the highest funded military that has ever existed in human history.

Why the Pentagon want to even hint at this? Their opposing military intelligence won't think be thinking this is aliens at all, but they might be scared that the USA is hinting at having extremely advanced military technology at their disposal.

So while everyone waffles on about UFOs, opposing military intelligence gets the real message. A quiet show of strength at a time of great uncertainly for the USA and World as a whole.
 
Washout said:
Interesting they seemed to be going into the water.

What makes me think it's something manmade is the height - almost exactly 20k feet. What are the odds aliens are using human measurements that are standard in aviation and sitting at exactly 20k? Sounds like a human designated altitude.
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A unit of measurement is mathematics still though and even nature uses maths in many of the wonders it creates from ********** to patterns on leaves and the spiral arm nature of galaxies themselves. Any reasonably advanced civilisation will almost certainly have an understanding of maths and things that fly all utilise basic principles of flight which is universal. So whilst 20k feet might be 20k feet to humans, as we invented the terminology, the concept of measurement remains the same, it could be called something else to another civilisation but it would still be a fixed measurement of distance.

I don't think these are alien at all though, the disinformation idea is far more likely. remember that militaries have been working on exotic top secret flying crafts even since before WW2 and defence budgets are seemingly bottomless are they not?
 
Could be one part of the armed forces testing there new toy by seeing if the rest of them can identify it and deal with it out in the open away from anyone else.
If not, then its not likely to be Russian or Chinese so... that leaves us with... the unthinkable.
 
mrk said:
A unit of measurement is mathematics still though and even nature uses maths in many of the wonders it creates from ********** to patterns on leaves and the spiral arm nature of galaxies themselves. Any reasonably advanced civilisation will almost certainly have an understanding of maths and things that fly all utilise basic principles of flight which is universal. So whilst 20k feet might be 20k feet to humans, as we invented the terminology, the concept of measurement remains the same, it could be called something else to another civilisation but it would still be a fixed measurement of distance.

I don't think these are alien at all though, the disinformation idea is far more likely. remember that militaries have been working on exotic top secret flying crafts even since before WW2 and defence budgets are seemingly bottomless are they not?
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I get that but feet as a unit of measurement is a fairly arbitrary one. Not based off anything in nature. Think it was literally based off a kings foot size?! So if it was aliens it'd be highly suspect that whatever unit of measurement they use they were hovering at exactly 20k human feet.
 
Nasher said:
This video has been on youtube for years already.

The MOD also released a load of "UFO" stuff at the start of this year.
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That may be so, yet I can guarantee only a tiny % of people are aware of it. It’s very good news it has gone official and not to be dismissed in such a way.
 
sideways14a said:
Could be one part of the armed forces testing there new toy by seeing if the rest of them can identify it and deal with it out in the open away from anyone else.
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As much as I'd like to believe in "Aliens!" I think the vast majority of sightings are man-made and if simply not completely ordinary stuff that gets mislabeled, then it's military tech being tested. It can't be a coincidence that the general shape of UFO's has changed over the years, broadly in line with what was being tested on the hush-hush. It the years running up to the reveal of modern stealth tech. everything was a triangle. In the 40-45's everything was saucer shaped. Latest images again follow the same trend as the available tech. They seem smaller and drone/oddly shaped. They are highly maneuverable as you'd expect from something being operated remotely and not hampered by the low G loads from having a human pilot onboard. Much of this stuff has been around for many years before it is revealed or has the whistle blown.
 
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They aren't military experiments, if they were you'd see them being used in the open by now like the Blackbird and U2 eventually were. You can't keep secrets forever.
 
Angilion said:
Is the plane's software written in COBOL? :)

I'm guessing that the general idea is "proven to work", but it seems a bit odd that a plane costing tens of millions has much worse imaging than a cheap children's toy.
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The only one I know for sure is the Tornado GR4 which still had a Main Computer which was built in the early 70's for the GR1 (no idea the Language) and then it had an "add-on" SBC using Ada 95 to bring the computer upto GR4 standards. I "had" to go for an interview to join the software team (TISMT) when I got promoted as I scored very highly on the "software" streamlining tests you do during training, however I never wanted software, despite having the aptitude, and I was honest about that so I stayed on 1st line and joined a Helicopter squadron, which I'm sure some recruiter would have felt was an adequate punishment but suited me perfectly.

On the same track, When I worked on AWAC's you'd imagine they'd be state of the art - nope - the main computer and display computer were two "dual filing cabinet sized" IBM computers from the 60's which still had to be "booted" by typing the "BIOS" into individual memory registers in Hex and had only recently swapped from reel to reel tape recorders to HD's (which had to be slowed down via a hardware emulator so as not to crash the "tape speed only" computers) whilst printing out reports on dot matrix pressure sensitive paper.

Basically the military uses nothing new, everything which looks "brand new" will actually be 10+ years old already and thats doubly so for software where "bugs" can be life threatening in ways most wouldn't even imagine.
 
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