Pentagon releases UFO footage

[Pottsey]

Ball lightning.

Ball lightning - Wikipedia

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Ball lighting doesn't fly in formation and then use ECM to disable fighter jets. Plus they took a high resolution photo of the unknown craft which they had a full radar sequence off. They would know what lightning looks like.

What were the other threats?

Reduce there salaries, form a select committee under oversight so that we can do the subpoenaing and some other stuff that I cannot remember right now given how late it at night.

I can’t see any mention of him seeing the radar sequence? He says he wasn’t initially allowed to see “the” image or radar information, then later describes seeing the image.

"there is a radar sequence that I and I alone have observed in the United States Congress." Matt had extra/higher security clearance the others where not allowed to see that bit.

 

[Pottsey]

Some examples

Redditch
Shape of UFO: Cylinder
Date spotted: 16/05/2022
Description: Cigar-shaped object glowing bright white with a green tinge. Shot to the left very fast and quickly lost from sight

Droitwich
Shape of UFO: Sphere
Date spotted: 14/12/2021
Description: Fast moving white sphere around 500ft high, travelling at approx 600-800mph

How do they submit these? No photo? Any extra evidence? No radar data?

I think that database says about half are submitted with photos. Anyone can submit to that database its open for everyone.

 

[Angilion]

If real evidence of some advanced technology does come out at the end of this then some folks on the thread are going to look like luddites.

Firstly, the Luddites were right about what they said, although not in what they did. They weren't much like the corrupted modern meaning of the word.

Secondly, it has nothing to do with this even if you're intending the modern corrupted meaning of the word. There's nobody in this thread arguing for the suppression of technology for the sake of suppressing technology. The main objection is to the "we don't know what it is, so it's aliens" idea.

Thirdly, I doubt if any of the people who are objecting to that idea would be arguing that aliens should be suppressed for the sake of suppressing aliens.

Is there anyone here who is ethically opposed to aliens at all, let alone advocating using force to suppress them if they exist?

 

[rumple9]

They come in peace or to observe otherwise they would have obliterated us by now

 

[GGizmo]

I don't believe aliens from another world as made the technology.

I think it's more likely this will be human made technology worked on for decades. But because it might be using a new power system they have created then it'll not be seen as a regular update. It would be like a new gpu being powered differently. The new gpu would be the natural evolution. But the power change would be more difficult to explain.

If these craft are using a different way to generate power it could open up an entire new industry. The fossil fuel net zero debate could be solved immediately. It would change the dynamics of world geo politics.

 

[Thekwango]

Firstly, the Luddites were right about what they said, although not in what they did. They weren't much like the corrupted modern meaning of the word.

Secondly, it has nothing to do with this even if you're intending the modern corrupted meaning of the word. There's nobody in this thread arguing for the suppression of technology for the sake of suppressing technology. The main objection is to the "we don't know what it is, so it's aliens" idea.

Thirdly, I doubt if any of the people who are objecting to that idea would be arguing that aliens should be suppressed for the sake of suppressing aliens.

Is there anyone here who is ethically opposed to aliens at all, let alone advocating using force to suppress them if they exist?

that's a whole lotta words just to point out they used the word Luddite incorrectly.

 

[keyser van someone]

Plus they took a high resolution photo of the unknown craft which they had a full radar sequence off.

May I see that photo please?

 

[keyser van someone]

Anyone can submit to that database its open for everyone.

ouch. So it's all just noise.

 

[keyser van someone]

Check it out, some people think the moon lands were faked, weird. Thoughts?

One giant ... lie? Why so many people still think the moon landings were faked

It all started with a man called Bill Kaysing and his pamphlet about ‘America’s $30bn swindle’ ...

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pottsey]

May I see that photo please?

How many times does this have to be explained that the photo and the rest is classified. Congress had to take a field trip to Edgar Military Base and had to get security clearance to view the data directly on base. They could not view the data off base remotely. The people on the Congress field trip confirmed the data was real and despite there extensive experience and skills they couldn't associate it with any known craft in the US military or other military. As per the interview link provided to you, so have other people like Christopher K. Mellon Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for Intelligence who have said they have seen the data first hand and its real. Even the director of AARO said they have UAP footage doing interesting makeovers. You might not be able to see it directly but we have had more then enough high ranking people confirm the data is real and there. There is no reason to doubt them in what they are saying.

ouch. So it's all just noise.

No its not just noise its a large collection of circumstantial evidence that is backed up by world wide circumstantial evidence. If you want to look at the database of UFOs from military data that only makes use of military sources go look at the AARO presentation. ARRO did that slideshow which collated all the military sources into an average reported UFO sighting by military platforms often with muti sensor data.

 

[Pottsey]

Check it out, some people think the moon lands were faked, weird. Thoughts?

One giant ... lie? Why so many people still think the moon landings were faked

It all started with a man called Bill Kaysing and his pamphlet about ‘America’s $30bn swindle’ ...

www.theguardian.com

My thoughts are the people in this thread denying the evidence being posted is real are the same type of people who think the moon landing was faked and who deny all that evidence is real.

 

[keyser van someone]

Sounds great, I look forward to seeing the evidence.

 

[keyser van someone]

These non-humans are really busy, 1000 sightings in the UK alone, I hope they have a union.

 

[aardvark]

My thoughts are the people in this thread denying the evidence being posted is real are the same type of people who think the moon landing was faked and who deny all that evidence is real.

i see a lot of talk, testimony, sensor glitches, blurry video/photos - nothing i would consider good evidence of anything.

i'm a scientist - if i tried to write a paper based on what evidence we have so far seen i would be laughed at, and rightly so.

You give this 'evidence' far more weight than it deserves, because so far it all adds up to a whole lot of nothing.

 

[Pottsey]

You give this 'evidence' far more weight than it deserves, because so far it all adds up to a whole lot of nothing.

No it doesn't add up to a load of nothing. The circumstantial evidence alone is high enough volume that strongly suggest something is going off. Then we have the more solid evidence like the Belgium event or Nimitz event. Neither of which are a sensor glitch's and in the case of Belgium backed up by a large amount of witness's many of which are reliable, backed up by transcript from the military fighter jets talking to the ground controller while attempting to intercept the UFO. Along with and direct testimony from the military and radar footage that shows the UAP craft doing manoeuvres that the F-16 cannot keep pace with. That Radar footage + transcript is evidence that this is more then nothing.

Plus I believe Congress, the Intelligence directors/officers plus everyone else are telling the truth (not the BS artist Youtubers, I mean the large volume of government officials). Why would they take a field trip to Edgar Military Base and lie about the evidence they have seen? There are just to many respectable high ranking people involved many of which have reputations beyond approach for it to be some sort of conspiracy theory world wide hoax that some people on here seem to want us to believe. That's not to say its aliens but something is going off and if everyone just dismisses it out of hand like many posters in this thread are doing then it will never be solved.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uY47ijzGETwYJocR1uhqxP0KTPWChlOG/view That's a well sourced paper that has the ships deck logs, direct quotes between the officers, first and 2nd hand witness, lots of extra details that people who only watch the short video like to pretend doesn't exist.

These non-humans are really busy, 1000 sightings in the UK alone, I hope they have a union.

Please can you stop being so disingenuous all the time. 1000 sighting from a short timeframe from 1 database out of many databases. The real number of total sighting over the years is orders of magnitude higher in the UK and its also worldwide. Which is why it counts as a collation of circumstantial evidence. If we extrapolate the data it looks like there have been over 1 million sightings world wide possibly much higher over the years.

 

[jigger]

No it doesn't add up to a load of nothing. The circumstantial evidence alone is high enough volume that strongly suggest something is going off. Then we have the more solid evidence like the Belgium event or Nimitz event. Neither of which are a sensor glitch's and in the case of Belgium backed up by a large amount of witness's many of which are reliable, backed up by transcript from the military fighter jets talking to the ground controller while attempting to intercept the UFO. Along with and direct testimony from the military and radar footage that shows the UAP craft doing manoeuvres that the F-16 cannot keep pace with. That Radar footage + transcript is evidence that this is more then nothing.

Plus I believe Congress, the Intelligence directors/officers plus everyone else are telling the truth (not the BS artist Youtubers, I mean the large volume of government officials). Why would they take a field trip to Edgar Military Base and lie about the evidence they have seen? There are just to many respectable high ranking people involved many of which have reputations beyond approach for it to be some sort of conspiracy theory world wide hoax that some people on here seem to want us to believe. That's not to say its aliens but something is going off and if everyone just dismisses it out of hand like many posters in this thread are doing then it will never be solved.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uY47ijzGETwYJocR1uhqxP0KTPWChlOG/view That's a well sourced paper that has the ships deck logs, direct quotes between the officers, first and 2nd hand witness, lots of extra details that people who only watch the short video like to pretend doesn't exist.



Please can you stop being so disingenuous all the time. 1000 sighting from a short timeframe from 1 database out of many databases. The real number of total sighting over the years is orders of magnitude higher in the UK and its also worldwide. Which is why it counts as a collation of circumstantial evidence. If we extrapolate the data it looks like there have been over 1 million sightings world wide possibly much higher over the years.

Have you any evidence at all of these craft? Any evidence at all of these events not being easily explained as anomalous sensor/bad data?

Any evidence at all that stands alone without injecting the word or claims of highly dubious people?

 

[Pottsey]

Have you any evidence at all of these craft? Any evidence at all of these events not being easily explained as anomalous sensor/bad data?

Any evidence at all that stands alone without injecting the word or claims of highly dubious people?

For you first question yes the Belgium evidence as has been posted and explained. That one cannot be anomalous sensor or bad data. As for your next bit the Edgar Military Base event the people involved in that are not remotely dubious. In fact in the past I have given you a long list of highly ranked, respectable people many of whom have reputations beyond reproach. None of those people are remotely dubious.

 

[jigger]

For you first question yes the Belgium evidence as has been posted and explained. That one cannot be anomalous sensor or bad data. As for your last bit the Edgar Military Base event the people involved in that are not remotely dubious. In fact in the past I have given you a long list of highly ranked, respectable people many of whom have reputations beyond reproach. None of those people are remotely dubious.

So zero evidence then. A boatload of nothing as described.

 

[Pottsey]

So zero evidence then, but a boatload of nothing as described.

You know that's a lie as I provided the live transcript from the event between the fighter jet pilot and ground controller along with the radar footage and evidence from the people on the ground which shows the radar footage is not a sensor glitch. That's proper evidence that you cannot explain away. That was a real fighterjet intercepting a UFO/UAP and the event has been proven to have happened. The radar footage shows the UFO doing manoeuvres that the F-16 cannot keep pace as confirmed by the military personal directly involved in the event. Since its not a radar glitch as proven by the rest of the data its not a load of nothing.

Plus we are now at a reported 40 whistle-blowers going though the process. Then we have all the Presidents, I think it was the Defence Secretory of Canada, Israeli Space Security Chief, US Commanders, lots of Senators not just in the US but other county’s like Brazil, Director National Intelligence, lots of Lieutenants, lots of fighter pilots, lots of weapon officer, sensor technicians, Dep. Asst. Secretary of Defence for Intelligence, NASA Astronaut, the U.S. Department of Defence Research and Development Board.

Above is not even a full list these are in addition to above
- Robert Sarbacher, U.S. Department of Defense Research and Development Board (RDB)
- Jim Shell, the former Chief Scientist for Air Force Space Command
- Nat Kobitz, Aeronautical Engineer, Director of Advanced Technology Development & Assessment, Director of Research & Development, and, Program Manager for Advanced Ships/Foreign Shipbuilding
- Jonathan Grey, officer of the US Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance working for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC)
- Eric Davis, astrophysicist
- Stanton Friedman, nuclear physicist
- Garry Nolan, immunologist
- Karl Nell, former Army Colonel
- Arthur Exxon, brigadier general
- Thomas Dubose, brigadier general
- Walter Haut, public information officer at the 509th Bomb Group
- Chase Brandon, ex-CIA agent
- Jesse Marcel, lieutenant colonel
- Philip Corso, American Army officer
- Bob Oeschler, NASA Mission Specialist
- Clifford Stone, US Army sergeant
- Luis Elizondo, former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence
- Colm Kelleher, biochemist who managed AAWSAP contract with Defense Intelligence Agency
- David Grusch, former intelligence official, veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
- Wilbert Smith, senior radio engineer for Transport Canada's Broadcast and Measurements Section
- Jose Carlos Pereira, brigadier from Brazilian Air Force

Most of these are reliable trustworthy people with respectable ranks/positions. Many have reputation's beyond approach. Your lying by calling all these people highly dubious people.

 

[jigger]

You know that's a lie as I provided the live transcript from the event between the fighter jet pilot and ground controller along with the radar footage and evidence from the people on the ground which shows the radar footage is not a sensor glitch. That's proper evidence that you cannot explain away. That was a real fighterjet intercepting a UFO/UAP and the event has been proven to have happened. The radar footage shows the UFO doing manoeuvres that the F-16 cannot keep pace as confirmed by the military personal directly involved in the event. Since its not a radar glitch as proven by the rest of the data its not a load of nothing.

Plus we are now at a reported 40 whistle-blowers going though the process. Then we have all the Presidents, I think it was the Defence Secretory of Canada, Israeli Space Security Chief, US Commanders, lots of Senators not just in the US but other county’s like Brazil, Director National Intelligence, lots of Lieutenants, lots of fighter pilots, lots of weapon officer, sensor technicians, Dep. Asst. Secretary of Defence for Intelligence, NASA Astronaut, the U.S. Department of Defence Research and Development Board.

Above is not even a full list these are in addition to above
- Robert Sarbacher, U.S. Department of Defense Research and Development Board (RDB)
- Jim Shell, the former Chief Scientist for Air Force Space Command
- Nat Kobitz, Aeronautical Engineer, Director of Advanced Technology Development & Assessment, Director of Research & Development, and, Program Manager for Advanced Ships/Foreign Shipbuilding
- Jonathan Grey, officer of the US Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance working for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC)
- Eric Davis, astrophysicist
- Stanton Friedman, nuclear physicist
- Garry Nolan, immunologist
- Karl Nell, former Army Colonel
- Arthur Exxon, brigadier general
- Thomas Dubose, brigadier general
- Walter Haut, public information officer at the 509th Bomb Group
- Chase Brandon, ex-CIA agent
- Jesse Marcel, lieutenant colonel
- Philip Corso, American Army officer
- Bob Oeschler, NASA Mission Specialist
- Clifford Stone, US Army sergeant
- Luis Elizondo, former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence
- Colm Kelleher, biochemist who managed AAWSAP contract with Defense Intelligence Agency
- David Grusch, former intelligence official, veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
- Wilbert Smith, senior radio engineer for Transport Canada's Broadcast and Measurements Section
- Jose Carlos Pereira, brigadier from Brazilian Air Force

Most of these are reliable trustworthy people with respectable ranks/positions. Many have reputation's beyond approach. Your lying by calling all these people highly dubious people.

You know it’s the truth.

Any evidence at all?