Pentagon releases UFO footage

Conveniently ignores the fact that Grusch said both in the interview and again under oath that the evidence leans towards the craft being interdimensional, not extraterrestrial travelling light years to get here. Also he didn't say they all crashed, as the story goes some were recovered completely intact.

Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence, but at least argue over the correct details...
Those claims are so ridiculous, we might as well be having a discussion about the possibility of the moon having a core of solid Wensleydale.
 
Those claims are so ridiculous, we might as well be having a discussion about the possibility of the moon having a core of solid Wensleydale.

So change the argument to something you deem less ridiculous, just so you can then argue against that less ridiculous claim? That is a pointless exercise IMO.

Also, nobody is claiming under oath to have evidence from 40 witnesses that the moon has a delicious cheesy core. If they were, then sure, make a video to debunk it.
 
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So change the argument to something you deem less ridiculous, just so you can then argue against that less ridiculous claim? That is a pointless exercise IMO.

Also, nobody is claiming under oath to have evidence from 40 witnesses that the moon has a delicious cheesy core. If they were, then sure, make a video to debunk it.

The probability of the moon being made of cheese vs inter dimensional space travel… I think the cheese moon theory is more probable TBH.
 
The probability of the moon being made of cheese vs inter dimensional space travel… I think the cheese moon theory is more probable TBH.
It's also nice and convenient because it makes it easy to handwave away the lack of evidence.

"Oh, they're interdimensional. They don't have to travel through space or through our atmosphere. They just pop into existence, expose themselves to me and my mates, then pop out of existence again."

Might as well say, "They're all over the place, these aliens. Literally everywhere. But they're fully invisible, can move through solid objects, leave no traces, can't be detected... But trust me, there are 50 of them in the room with us right now!"

Anyone wanting a sane conversation might as well give up now.
 
It's also nice and convenient because it makes it easy to handwave away the lack of evidence.

"Oh, they're interdimensional. They don't have to travel through space or through our atmosphere. They just pop into existence, expose themselves to me and my mates, then pop out of existence again."

Might as well say, "They're all over the place, these aliens. Literally everywhere. But they're fully invisible, can move through solid objects, leave no traces, can't be detected... But trust me, there are 50 of them in the room with us right now!"

Anyone wanting a sane conversation might as well give up now.

That was my feelings listening to the Grusch testimony. Where would you even start with his nonsense?
 
"They're here".....


They're just very very very very very small aliens :D
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The probability of the moon being made of cheese vs inter dimensional space travel… I think the cheese moon theory is more probable TBH.
This wasn't what we were saying. I was pointing out that the debunk video above was arguing against something Grusch has not said.

It's amazing how nobody wants to do YouTube debunks of the non-human intelligence amendment bill.
 
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This wasn't what we were saying. I was pointing out that the debunk video above was arguing against something Grusch has not said.

It's amazing how nobody wants to do YouTube debunks of the non-human intelligence amendment bill.

Grusch has made many outlandish claims, one of them being inter dimensional aliens. It’s amazing how anyone can take him seriously, so could understand why people wouldn’t give him the time of day.
 
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Grusch has made many outlandish claims, one of them being inter dimensional aliens. It’s amazing how anyone can take him seriously, so could understand why people wouldn’t give him the time of day.
Well they are taking him seriously, do you think the language in the NHI bill is some kind of accident / coincidence?
 
Well they are taking him seriously, do you think the language in the NHI bill is some kind of accident / coincidence?

YouTube debunkers and scientific community don’t. If the American congress are prepared to waste public money on his testimony then that’s a shame on them.
 
YouTube debunkers and scientific community don’t. If the American congress are prepared to waste public money on his testimony then that’s a shame on them.
Congress is there to waste money on stuff in each Congressman's district and Senator's state so all their donors can get their face in the trough of $. This will be a drop in the ocean of money wasted.
 

An interesting discussion between 2 former/current front line US fighter pilots.

No one has all the answers and not sure they SOLVE as claimed, but some interesting points of view.

Sorry if this has been shared before.
 
Grusch has made many outlandish claims, one of them being inter dimensional aliens. It’s amazing how anyone can take him seriously, so could understand why people wouldn’t give him the time of day.
At the Congress briefing Grusch never made any claims about Aliens either extra-terrestrial or inter dimensional. In fact he did the opposite refusing to use the word Alien and wont denote an origin until its scientifically proven. He is keeping the aperture open. Like MookJong said if you are going to arguing against something Grusch said at least use something he really said not one of the many outlandish claims Jigger is known for making up. The core of Gruschs complaint isn't about Aliens, its about illegal SAP programs being run without Congress oversight via illegal channels of money. This appears to be true which is why people are taking him seriously and should take him seriously.

How many times do we have to point out Grusch provided Congress with evidence to backup what he was saying. That's why people are taking him seriously as he had access to the evidence from his job role.

If the American congress are prepared to waste public money on his testimony then that’s a shame on them.
They are not basing the new amendment bill on testimony alone. They are basing the the new amendment bill on the evidence they have been provided. Which is why the amendment bill matters and you should pay attention instead of pretending its based on nothing. Since you seem to have forgotten some of Congress took field trips to check out some of the information provided to them and they came back saying it was true.

@Pottsey

Latest Ancient Aliens S19E17 will interest you - Grusch, Pentagon, NASA, UAPs etc
Have you seen it and is it worth watching? I always avoided Ancient Aliens as I thought it was like all those ghost programs with tiny little things are blown out of proportion and minor things are turned into sensationalism style media. Perhaps I should give 1 episode a go and approach it from an entrainment point of view.
 
At the Congress briefing Grusch never made any claims about Aliens either extra-terrestrial or inter dimensional.

Grusch did make those claims. Grusch has made a lot of outrageous claims that are almost certainly false. The testimony from Grusch is based on nothing more than hearsay.
 
Grusch did make those claims. Grusch has made a lot of outrageous claims that are almost certainly false. The testimony from Grusch is based on nothing more than hearsay.

Nobody is qualified on here to say that any claims by Grusch are almost certainly false. Nobody knows what the real truth is. We may never find out.
 
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