Pentagon releases UFO footage

Nobody is qualified on here to say that any claims by Grusch are almost certainly false. Nobody knows what the real truth is. We may never find out.

That’s the issue. Nobody in world is qualified, so we have to make an assumption. Grusch has made extraordinary claims without providing any evidence. Claims that are almost certainly false.
 
Well they are taking him seriously, do you think the language in the NHI bill is some kind of accident / coincidence?
Have you heard some government/local/federal fruit loops talk? The public are a bunch of weirdos. hi :)

I think it more a case that we live in a free society, freedom of speech means that with enough interest you can talk about any weird subject. Check.
 
Have you seen it and is it worth watching? I always avoided Ancient Aliens as I thought it was like all those ghost programs with tiny little things are blown out of proportion and minor things are turned into sensationalism style media. Perhaps I should give 1 episode a go and approach it from an entrainment point of view.

I've never missed an episode and you already know I'm a sceptic.
What it is brilliant for is bringing new stuff forward that I might not have seen and I can look at it from an archaeological or entertainment point of view without bringing Aliens into it.
 
Grusch did make those claims. Grusch has made a lot of outrageous claims that are almost certainly false. The testimony from Grusch is based on nothing more than hearsay.
Given your history of lying and making outrageous claims yourself, I want to see some evidence. Give me a video timestamp or direct text quote of Grusch making those claims at the Congress briefing. I have seen zero reference to Grush making a claim about Aliens that are either extra-terrestrial or inter dimensional at the Congress briefing. I have read Grush statement and his claims have no reference to what you are referring to.

As for hearsay do you even know what that means. Clearly you don't despite the fact its been explained to you multiple times and you keep lying and saying Grusch is nothing more then hearsay. Need I remind you Grushs claims where substantiated and deemed credible and urgent meaning they are not hearsay. The Intelligence Community Inspector General looked into and confirmed Gruschs claims.

Do I have to remind you again that Gruschs job at the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), specifically tasked him to uncover any illicit programs Special Access Programs (SAPs), an achievement he ultimately accomplished. Gruschs claims are not hearsay they are real backed up by evidence. I am talking about the real claims Grusch made not the fake claims you created.

EDIT: For those that want to see Gruschs real claims and statement https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Wstate-GruschD-20230726.pdf which is very different to fake narrative Jigger is trying to push.
 
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I've never missed an episode and you already know I'm a sceptic.
What it is brilliant for is bringing new stuff forward that I might not have seen and I can look at it from an archaeological or entertainment point of view without bringing Aliens into it.
Thank you. It sounds like I wrote that program off too fast. It should be on OnDemand/Streaming some place. Will see if I can find it.
 
Given your history of lying and making outrageous claims yourself, I want to see some evidence. Give me a video timestamp or direct text quote of Grusch making those claims at the Congress briefing. I have seen zero reference to Grush making a claim about Aliens that are either extra-terrestrial or inter dimensional at the Congress briefing. I have read Grush statement and his claims have no reference to what you are referring to.

As for hearsay do you even know what that means. Clearly you don't despite the fact its been explained to you multiple times and you keep lying and saying Grusch is nothing more then hearsay. Need I remind you Grushs claims where substantiated and deemed credible and urgent meaning they are not hearsay. The Intelligence Community Inspector General looked into and confirmed Gruschs claims.

Do I have to remind you again that Gruschs job at the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), specifically tasked him to uncover any illicit programs Special Access Programs (SAPs), an achievement he ultimately accomplished. Gruschs claims are not hearsay they are real backed up by evidence. I am talking about the real claims Grusch made not the fake claims you created.

Watch the hearings. The claim was made. Grusch seems like a chap with an axe to grind for some reason.

What Grusch cliamed is fanciful nonsense based on nothing more than hearsay and without substance. Grusch really should have been forced to produce evidence to the public and arrested over the claims of having evidence of murder and assaults within government agencies.
 
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Watch the hearings. The claim was made. Grusch seems like a chap with an axe to grind for some reason.

What Grusch cliamed is fanciful nonsense based on nothing more than hearsay and without substance. Grusch really should have been forced to produce evidence to the public and arrested over the claims of having evidence of murder and assaults within government agencies.
I have watched the hearing and searched the transcript and there are no claims about inter dimensional aliens by Grusch. I take it by your lack of direct quote or lack of video timestamp that the outrageous claims where invented by yourself and so are fake like all the other fake claims you have created in this thread. Go on prove it, give me a link or timestamp. Or is this another fake claim you created like all the other times you got caught out doing this?

Grusch real claims are not fanciful or nonsense. They are not based on nothing more then hearsay without substance. Grusch provided substance, provided files and dates, got the claims substantiated. The claims where said to be credible and urgent by the Intelligence Community Inspector General after an investigation. To call it all hearsay is just you lying.

How do you explain the Intelligence Community Inspector General after doing an investigation and looking into the data provided saying the claims are credible and urgent?
 
I have watched the hearing and searched the transcript and there are no claims about inter dimensional aliens by Grusch.

The UFOs could be from another dimension

Grusch, who received a college scholarship from the Air Force to study physics, did not describe the unusual aircraft as technology from another planet. “I don’t want to necessarily denote origin,” he said. “I don’t think we have all the data to say, Oh, they’re coming from a certain location.” Grusch proposed the vehicles the Pentagon is hiding could have come from a different physical dimension as described in quantum mechanics, saying, “We know there are extra dimensions due to high-energy particle collisions, etc., and there’s a theoretical framework to explain that.”
“It could be that this is not necessarily extraterrestrial and actually that it’s coming from a higher-dimensional physical space that might be co-located right here,” he said.
 
I love it when these people start talking about other dimensions, about how these things can pop into and out of existence, like god moving things around with VMware.

THEN THEY CRASH.... IN AMERICA :D
 
Grusch was just speculating regarding the dimensions thing, jigger has taken that out of context to claim he's made an assertion.
 
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I have watched the hearing and searched the transcript and there are no claims about inter dimensional aliens by Grusch. I take it by your lack of direct quote or lack of video timestamp that the outrageous claims where invented by yourself and so are fake like all the other fake claims you have created in this thread. Go on prove it, give me a link or timestamp. Or is this another fake claim you created like all the other times you got caught out doing this?

Grusch real claims are not fanciful or nonsense. They are not based on nothing more then hearsay without substance. Grusch provided substance, provided files and dates, got the claims substantiated. The claims where said to be credible and urgent by the Intelligence Community Inspector General after an investigation. To call it all hearsay is just you lying.

How do you explain the Intelligence Community Inspector General after doing an investigation and looking into the data provided saying the claims are credible and urgent?

Nope Grusch just said some things and proved nothing of his claims, hence the reason it’s all nonsense. Grusch made the claims in the hearings at least twice, we’ve been over this before.

Grusch has provided nothing more than a fantastic story.
 
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Grusch wasn’t there to speculate.
In reference to the question asked of him he was there to speculate. So basically your claim of inter dimensional aliens is not only wrong but yet again you Jigger was the person making outrageous fake claims.


Grusch has provided nothing more than a fantastic story.
That's not true and you know it. Grusch provided lot of files and data to backup his story plus there are dozens of other staff members backing him up. The Intelligence Community Inspector General after an investigation and looking into the claims said its credible and urgent. Just look at the audit which shows they have over a billion dollars missing per year and around 60% of there assets missing. The failed audit talked about in the briefing proves Gruschs claims are true and is more then just a fantastical story.

You keep saying Gruchs claims are fantastical which just goes to show how extremely naïve you are to think Gruchs claims cannot be real.

What is so fantastically about 60% of assets missing and billion+ dollars missing and so Grush is tasked into finding and uncovering any illicit Special Access Programs (SAPs) then Grush finding and reporting back those illicit Special Access Programs (SAPs) to Congress. According to you this is all nonsense that we should ignore. Yeah, lets just let them keep losing billions of dollars in illegal SAPS. No need to investigate that at all as according to Jigger its all just hearsay. Gruchs is not making any claims on Aliens that is just nonsense you Jigger have made up. Gruchs real claims are about illegal SAPs without legal oversight diverting money from legal projects. That is serious and needs looking into.

So no real progress so far then about anything? :p
You might want to read the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (S. 2226) through its first procedural gate, 72-25. The new Schumer-Rounds Amendment ("UAP Disclosure Act") which was added to the bill without objection. Of course people like Jigger will just pretend this isn't real and didn't happen but it did happen and is real progress.
 
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