Pentagon releases UFO footage

[Pottsey]

We are 54 pages in, we are none the wiser

Short of time so a quick messy copy and paste.

CONTROLLED DISCLOSURE CAMPAIGN PLAN.—With respect to unidentified anomalous phenomena records, particular information in unidentified anomalous phenomena records, recovered technologies of unknown origin, and biological evidence for non- human intelligence the public disclosure of which is postponed pursuant to section ll06, or for which only substitutions or summaries have been disclosed to the public, the Review Board shall create and transmit to the President and to the Archivist [and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate, and the Committee on Oversight and Accountability of the House of Representatives] a Controlled Disclosure Campaign Plan, with classified appendix, containing—

(A) a description of actions by the Review Board, the originating body, the President, or any Government office (including a jus- tification of any such action to postpone dis- closure of any record or part of any record) and of any official proceedings conducted by the Review Board with regard to specific un- identified anomalous phenomena records; and

(B) a benchmark-driven plan, based upon a review of the proceedings and in conformity with the decisions reflected therein, recom- mending precise requirements for periodic review, downgrading, and declassification as well as the exact time or specified occur- rence following which each postponed item may be appropriately disclosed to the public under this title.

“ "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena that formerly or currently is protected by any form of special access or restricted access" to notify the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) within 60 days of enactment, and to provide within 180 days (six months) "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."

AARO is the Pentagon office established by Congress to conduct investigations of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), and to collect information on current and past federal government activity pertaining to UAP.

The legislation also would require the AARO director to notify designated congressional committees and leaders within 30 days after receiving any such notifications, information, or exotic materials.“

The new ARARO website is live after a major delay. https://www.aaro.mil/

 

[koolpc]

That’s the issue. Nobody in world is qualified, so we have to make an assumption. Grusch has made extraordinary claims without providing any evidence. Claims that are almost certainly false.

How do know they are false?

 

[jigger]

How do know they are false?

Because the lack of evidence and chances of a single alien visitation are infinitesimally small and we have very plausible explanations.

 

[Roar87]

Because the lack of evidence and chances of a single alien visitation are infinitesimally small and we have very plausible explanations.

We have no idea what the chances of an alien visitation are, we are just guessing, if an alien race was 100,000 years more advanced than us, which is an incredibly tiny amount of time in the context of the Universe, they would almost certainly have devised a way of finding other life and travelling across vast distances. If humans are around for another 100,000 years without us killing ourselves then imagine the level of technology.

 

[jigger]

We have no idea what the chances of an alien visitation are, we are just guessing, if an alien race was 100,000 years more advanced than us, which is an incredibly tiny amount of time in the context of the Universe, they would almost certainly have devised a way of finding other life and travelling across vast distances. If humans are around for another 100,000 years without us killing ourselves then imagine the level of technology.

We do know how to measure distances and understand time and physics pretty well. Without the injection of wild theory’s or religious concepts non of what has been said hold water. Technologically what has been described is impossible and brings into question our understanding of reality.

 

[keyser van someone]

Grusch was just speculating regarding the dimensions thing, jigger has taken that out of context to claim he's made an assertion.

The UFOs could be from another dimension

Grusch, who received a college scholarship from the Air Force to study physics, did not describe the unusual aircraft as technology from another planet. “I don’t want to necessarily denote origin,” he said. “I don’t think we have all the data to say, Oh, they’re coming from a certain location.” Grusch proposed the vehicles the Pentagon is hiding could have come from a different physical dimension as described in quantum mechanics, saying, “We know there are extra dimensions due to high-energy particle collisions, etc., and there’s a theoretical framework to explain that.”
“It could be that this is not necessarily extraterrestrial and actually that it’s coming from a higher-dimensional physical space that might be co-located right here,” he said.

He's doing both at the same time. He's covered both bases. He's remains vague AND declared it could be "We know there are extra dimensions due to high-energy particle collisions, etc., and there’s a theoretical framework to explain that."

Which is it? I'm confused.

It's Goop. The science checks out.

 

[koolpc]

Because the lack of evidence and chances of a single alien visitation are infinitesimally small and we have very plausible explanations.

Well, lack of evidence that we the public have seen. Grusch did say that all his evidence has been submitted. So, i cant dismiss that as of yet. Nobody can. Time will tell i guess.

 

[keyser van someone]

How do know they are false?

False is the default scientific stance on most things until proven otherwise.

 

[jigger]

Well, lack of evidence that we the public have seen. Grusch did say that all his evidence has been submitted. So, i cant dismiss that as of yet. Nobody can. Time will tell i guess.

Grusch said a lot of things… Outrageous claims have been made by a very questionable person and zero proof has been shown.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

if an alien race was 100,000 years more advanced than us, which is an incredibly tiny amount of time in the context of the Universe, they would almost certainly have devised a way of finding other life and travelling across vast distances.

They could be 10 million years advanced but they would still be bound by huge distances for drones and transporting a bag of bones at distances & speed
Put simply if Aliens 1000 light years away from us want to visit it will take them that long to get to us at light speed so goodbye to all their relatives.
It's more complex than that with Time Dilation etc but Angilion will be along to tell us exactly how long it would take Aliens a 1000 light years away to get here and then get back home.

 

[visibleman]

I haven't posted for 10 pages, have we got aliens yet?

 

[Pottsey]

Because the lack of evidence and chances of a single alien visitation are infinitesimally small and we have very plausible explanations.

A) There is not a lack of evidence as evidence was submitted by Grusch. B) Gruschs claims at the core are not about aliens and so the chance of alien visitation being infinitesimally small doesn't discredit Grucshs claims. Gruchs claims might be proven to be 100% true and correct without Aliens being involved.

Grusch said a lot of things… Outrageous claims have been made by a very questionable person and zero proof has been shown.

As proven early on today the only outrageous claims are the fake outrageous claims you made up. The actual real claims are not outrageous nor is the person very questionable nor has zero proof been submitted. You are being extremely disingenuous and the way I see it you are the one that is very questionable given your history of making things up like you did about interdimensional aliens which was never a real claim.

 

[Mint8]

I haven't posted for 10 pages, have we got aliens yet?

Nope - just the same person repeatedly telling us there is "evidence" to prove it - despite there being no actual evidence in sight.

In other news - 400 losers went looking for the Loch Ness monster - they got "evidence" as well - but forgot to turn their recording equiptment on.......

 

[jigger]

A) There is not a lack of evidence as evidence was submitted by Grusch. B) Gruschs claims at the core are not about aliens and so the chance of alien visitation being infinitesimally small doesn't discredit Grucshs claims. Gruchs claims might be proven to be 100% true and correct without Aliens being involved.


As proven early on today the only outrageous claims are the fake outrageous claims you made up. The actual real claims are not outrageous nor is the person very questionable nor has zero proof been submitted. You are being extremely disingenuous and the way I see it you are the one that is very questionable given your history of making things up like you did about interdimensional aliens which was never a real claim.

Grusch has shown zero evidence, given absurd testimony and made ridiculous claims only a fool could take at face value.

 

[jigger]

I haven't posted for 10 pages, have we got aliens yet?

Nope, because it’s all nonsense.

 

[Pottsey]

He's doing both at the same time. He's covered both bases. He's remains vague AND declared it could be "We know there are extra dimensions due to high-energy particle collisions, etc., and there’s a theoretical framework to explain that."

Which is it? I'm confused.

It's Goop. The science checks out.

Grusch is a physicist and in the case of what he is talking about the science does check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle he wasnt saying the aliens are interdimensional. I thought he was not talking about aliens but rather about a possible/potential propulsion system from a theoretical prospective. I think it was Bigalow Aerospace won the contract from the Pentagon to investigate this. So the science checks out.

Grusch has shown zero evidence, given absurd testimony and made ridiculous claims only a fool could take at face value.

Flat out not true as the Intelligence Community Inspector General looked into the evidence and confirmed Gruschs claims are credible and urgent. Your lying about zero evidence as evidence has been provide along with Congress taking a field trip to view some evidence first hand so by saying there is no evidence you are being disingenuous. The audits alone are evidence that confirm what Gruchs is saying is true. In the case of the audit evidence you have seen some of it so how can you say there is no evidence? The audits evidence provided backs up what Grusch is saying.

As for absurd testimony and ridiculous claims as proven before you made that up. You have yet show us one one single claim that is absurd or ridiculous. Every absurd or ridiculous claim so far has been fake and made up by you, once we looked into it. Can you give us 1 single real claim that is absurd or ridiculous and given your history of making up fake claims I want to see some evidence either a direct quote or timestamp. The real claims by Grusch are serious, realistic along with being perfectly possible. He is not questionable either that is just you being even more disingenuous.

 

[jigger]

Grusch is a physicist and in the case of what he is talking about the science does check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle he wasnt saying the aliens are interdimensional. I thought he was not talking about aliens but rather about a possible/potential propulsion system from a theoretical prospective. I think it was Bigalow Aerospace won the contract from the Pentagon to investigate this. So the science checks out.


Flat out not true as the Intelligence Community Inspector General looked into the evidence and confirmed Gruschs claims are credible and urgent. Your lying about zero evidence as evidence has been provide along with Congress taking a field trip to view some evidence first hand so by saying there is no evidence you are being disingenuous. The audits alone are evidence that confirm what Gruchs is saying is true. In the case of the audit evidence you have seen some of it so how can you say there is no evidence? The audits evidence provided backs up what Grusch is saying.

As for absurd testimony and ridiculous claims as proven before you made that up. You have yet show us one one single claim that is absurd or ridiculous. Every absurd or ridiculous claim so far has been fake and made up by you, once we looked into it. Can you give us 1 single real claim that is absurd or ridiculous and given your history of making up fake claims I want to see some evidence either a direct quote or timestamp. The real claims by Grusch are serious, realistic along with being perfectly possible. He is not questionable either that is just you being even more disingenuous.

Nope, Grusch has shown zero evidence every time. His cliam seems to be I a know a man that knows, trust me we have loads of alien space craft.

Claims of heading an office that has been refuted and has since back peddled on. Questionable personality traits and checkered past. Doing interviews with his lawyer. Outrageous claims of aliens, murder and cover up’s. Held only the most junior officer rank. All very questionable to me.

The inspector general confirmed Grusch had come forward as a whistle blower and confirmed he had received documents from Grusch in relations to the whistle blower case not that the claims of aliens are true.

 

[keyser van someone]

Grusch is a physicist

He is? Has he written any scientific papers?

 

[keyser van someone]

and in the case of what he is talking about the science does check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle he wasnt saying the aliens are interdimensional. I thought he was not talking about aliens but rather about a possible/potential propulsion system from a theoretical prospective. I think it was Bigalow Aerospace won the contract from the Pentagon to investigate this. So the science checks out.

Why stop there? Black hole engines (Event Horizon), warp drive etc. There are a lot of theories in science, all one has to do it back it up with evidence and change the world.

 

[Felon]

Grusch is a physicist and in the case of what he is talking about the science does check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle he wasnt saying the aliens are interdimensional. I thought he was not talking about aliens but rather about a possible/potential propulsion system from a theoretical prospective. I think it was Bigalow Aerospace won the contract from the Pentagon to investigate this. So the science checks out.

No.

I've been following Leonard Susskind's work for ages, holographic principle and other theories involving string theory are so exotic and in the realm of science that nobody really grasps apart from a very small number of people. For Grusch to come along, call himself a physicist and just pull these ideas out of his arse and use them to add credibility to his nonsense, is just shameful.