Pentagon releases UFO footage

Luis Elizondo really is trying hard to shift copies of his new book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Imminent-Inside-Pentagons-Hunt-UFOs/dp/1789466040

Although this did make me laugh;

Luis Elizondo, a former defence department official, was asked whether these objects could be controlled via a "mind-body connection", to which he answered they were clearly being "intelligently controlled".

"The vehicles we're talking about... are performing in excess of 1,000, 2,000, 3,000Gs," he said, adding that they react to human movement and are incredibly manoeuvrable.

He continues:

Mr Elizondo also said there was "definitely enough data" to suggest that there is "some sort of relationship" between UAPs and "sensitive US military installations, also some of our nuclear equities and also some of our department of energy sites".

These must be the most paranoid aliens ever, they can cope with FTL travel - manoeuvre at 3000G, but they get stressed by our nukes which are based on 80 year old tech.

These people are all full of ****.
 
Here's the summary of Congresswoman Nancy Mace's report:

"This document is an alleged summary of a multi-year, internal investigation into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Technologies of Unknown Origin (TUO), and Non-Human Intelligence (NHI), reportedly carried out by U.S. defense and intelligence communities. Here’s a condensed summary of its key sections:

1. Investigation Background
•The investigation draws from whistleblower testimonies, classified reports, and intelligence sources within the U.S. military and government.
•It suggests that elements within the U.S. government, particularly within the Executive Branch, have concealed UAP-related information from Congress for decades, limiting oversight and public knowledge of potential threats.

2. IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION Program
•IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION is described as a classified Special Access Program (SAP) dedicated to collecting intelligence on UAPs and possible “Reproduction Vehicles” (ARVs).
•The program relies on advanced Imagery Intelligence (IMINT) and Measurement and Signatures Intelligence (MASINT) technologies, gathering data on UAP sightings across the globe.
•The program’s secrecy and compartmentalization are noted to be extensive, reportedly preventing broad awareness even within military and intelligence circles.

3. U.S. Government Intelligence on UAPs
•Various types of UAPs are documented, with descriptions of their shapes (spheres, discs, ovals, triangles, boomerangs, and irregular forms) and behaviors, such as:
•High-speed maneuvers, hovering capabilities, and instant acceleration without visible propulsion.
•Interference with electronics, stealthy approaches near sensitive military facilities, and possible awareness of human observation.
•Several documented encounters by U.S. military personnel describe UAPs exhibiting potentially hostile or evasive behaviors, including near-collisions and surveillance of military assets.

4. DoD and Bureaucratic Records
•The document accuses the Department of Defense (DoD) and affiliated agencies of suppressing and trivializing UAP data, obstructing Congressional access to critical information.
•Records reportedly corroborate the activities of AATIP and AAWSAP (former U.S. programs investigating UAPs) and support the claims of whistleblower Luis Elizondo regarding government knowledge of UAP phenomena and potential NHI.5. Restricted Historical Records and Global Observations
•A 1978 NSA report mentioned in the document refers to Soviet-era research into UAPs, including studies on biological and psychological effects on humans, suggesting long-term international awareness of UAPs.
•The report claims Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) reveals that other nations, including near-peer countries, are aware of UAPs and treat them as serious security risks, especially near nuclear and aerospace facilities.
•Some foreign attempts to intercept UAPs have reportedly failed, with other governments acknowledging similar sightings and behaviors.

6. Conclusion
•The author advocates for public disclosure of UAP and NHI information, arguing that such revelations serve the public good and can help humanity prepare for potential impacts.
•The conclusion warns against using national security as an excuse for secrecy, instead calling for transparency, resilience, and a commitment to the truth as essential responses to these extraordinary findings.Overall SummaryThe document claims the U.S. government has collected extensive intelligence on UAPs and potentially non-human intelligences, yet has kept this knowledge highly classified. It describes secret programs, such as IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION, dedicated to tracking and analyzing UAPs, some of which exhibit capabilities beyond known human technology. Additionally, it suggests that multiple governments are aware of UAPs and consider them security threats. The author urges transparency and public awareness, framing this information as a pivotal issue for humanity."
 
This thread is wild. I dip in and out to read but this latest umm "event" to include, apparently, hi-def video of a orb is both fascinating and bewildering. Where's the video?
The videos are still classified. The investigation confirms the whistle-blowers really had directly evidence which has all been handed over and the evidence was valid and with merit. Basically the report concludes its all real backed up by solid high definition evidence, first hand witness's and multiple military sensor platforms. The investigation also concludes the illegal special access program is real. In short Congress has been given what they call unambiguous evidence.
 
The videos are still classified. The investigation confirms the whistle-blowers really had directly evidence which has all been handed over and the evidence was valid and with merit. Basically the report concludes its all real backed up by solid high definition evidence, first hand witness's and multiple military sensor platforms. The investigation also concludes the illegal special access program is real. In short Congress has been given what they call unambiguous evidence.
So only the US captures these "events"? What a gip!
 
Had the misfortune to start watching the new Netflix "documentary" Investigation Alien with the UFO hack George Knapp.

Total and utter rubbish. Float a theory and then 5 mins later start referring to it as if its fact - then add in another theory and after a while start assuming that is fact as well. Go in search of "evidence", find no evidence whatsoever but interview a few random locals or "ex-Govt experts" and then somehow suggest you have.

At the very start they show various blurry UFO clips - one of which looks suspiciously like an SFX shot from the movie District 9 - sums it up really.
 
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•The conclusion warns against using national security as an excuse for secrecy, instead calling for transparency, resilience, and a commitment to the truth as essential responses to these

This is the main part of the scam, the perpetual thing that just keeps going and going:
  1. Spread lies about the government covering up flying saucers, to sell books and TV shows.
  2. Because it's all lies, the government can't confirm or deny it. (they legit know **** all about it)
  3. Government gets blamed for not 'revealing the truth'
  4. Go around again and again and again.
At this point, the media are going nuts - so the government have to say something, which ultimately boils down to: 'There's some stuff we know, stuff we don't, we're not keeping aliens or UFOs, plz stop'

Then because the government said something, it's now all official and serious, and all of the nutters come out and it goes into overdrive again, and around and round we go in this perpetual cycle of utter ******* nonsense.
 
So only the US captures these "events"? What a gip!
Pretty much everyone is reporting the same all around the world. Belgium and Brazil put out press conferences where they have sent fighters jets to intercept the UAPs. Japan hold there own version of Congress UAP briefings. The Canada Defence minster put out an interview saying its all real just as a few examples out of many. Peru had there own briefing recently where they say the bodies are real and need further investigation. Why are so many people pretending its the US only?
 
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This is the main part of the scam, the perpetual thing that just keeps going and going:
  1. Spread lies about the government covering up flying saucers, to sell books and TV shows.
  2. Because it's all lies, the government can't confirm or deny it. (they legit know **** all about it)
  3. Government gets blamed for not 'revealing the truth'
  4. Go around again and again and again.
At this point, the media are going nuts - so the government have to say something, which ultimately boils down to: 'There's some stuff we know, stuff we don't, we're not keeping aliens or UFOs, plz stop'

Then because the government said something, it's now all official and serious, and all of the nutters come out and it goes into overdrive again, and around and round we go in this perpetual cycle of utter ******* nonsense.
There is a big flaw in your scam theory. You keep pretending the whistle-blowers have no evidence and are just making everything up. But it’s been confirmed time and time again they handed over massive amounts of evidence which has been checked out and confirmed as real by multiple groups who have access to the classified data to see if its real or not.

If it’s a just a scam, how are they getting past the SKIF investigation, ICIG investigation and now the Congress investigation? All 3 are serious investigations that you cannot just blag you way past without evidence. All 3 groups have access to the classified evidence and have vetted the evidence as real. How do you explain that if its only a scam?

If it was just a bunch of people BSing without evidence the SKIF, ICIG and now the new Congress investigation would all 3 say so.

“Because it's all lies, the government can't confirm or deny it. (they legit know **** all about it)”
But they did confirm it. Over the years you said many times the whistle-blowers have no evidence and will not hand over anything to stop the government from confirming or denying anything. But that is not true its been confirmed the whistle-blowers have handed over lots of evidence and everyone that has access to the classified data and viewed it has come back and said actually this is real. Actually all the stuff they are pointing to in classified areas has checked out.

The whistle-blowers handed over evidence first to the ICIG who confirmed it, then the SKIF investigation who confirmed when they hold the press conference and now as of this week the Congress investigation confirms it. The very start of the report says this is an internal multiyear investigation and confirms where they got all the evidence from.
The Democrats and Republicans hate each other and will do anything to take a dig at the other side. Yet even they after looking at the evidence are agreeing with each other and saying it’s a serious matter. If it’s a scam you would think they would point this out and make fun of the other side like they are so quick to in all other matters.

The latest Congress report seems to completely disagree with your scam idea.

Personally I am not convinced about the NHI element but everything is pointing to the illegal SAP project being run without oversight and producing skunkworks style UAPs as real.

The core problem with your scam idea is there are now to many high ranking people with access to the classified data saying its not a scam. You don't seem to have any explanation of how the so called scammers infiltrated multiple military databases and fooled the SKIF, ICIG and now Congress which is what is required for your scam idea to work.
 
But it’s been confirmed time and time again they handed over massive amounts of evidence which has been checked out and confirmed as real by multiple groups who have access to the classified data to see if its real or not.

To be so sure, you must have personally examined this ‘evidence’ for yourself?
 
I am cynical.

When the Americans start blabbing about UFO's, my thoughts go immediately to "cover up". Not aliens, but their latest stealth project that keeps getting spotted by the Chinese and the Americans are forced in to "Lets pretend we don't know what it is either".

My scepticism mostly surrounds the technology itself. The descriptions do not match any known technology that exists now or will exist in the future. And even if you accept that it does exist, then my thoughts STILL do not go to aliens, rather that there has been some human breakthrough.

The reason I'm dubious about the alien thing is that we have failed to pick up any signs of advanced civilisations in space. That means, to me, that whatever aliens do exist are too far to find us, and or reach us.

These releases of information just make it all the more baffling, but far too many people are jumping to conclusions when there is no conclusive evidence of what these sightings are.
 
To be so sure, you must have personally examined this ‘evidence’ for yourself?
No, I haven’t but I have seen what the people have said who have examined the evidence personally and we have zero reason to doubt them.

Which is my problem with your scam idea to sell books. At this point it makes absolutely zero sense and goes completely against the facts and evidence.

I see it sort of like this.

If some guy at the pub tells me there is a hidden illegal classified SAP running skunkworks style projects and illegally testing them, I am going have major doubts. But listen as its entertaining.

If then see this guy on TV giving interviews and the interviews have said they vetted this person background and looked into who he says he is and its all real. Ok now it’s not only entertaining its now looking a little more real but I still have major doubts.

Next it turns out the guy worked at a highly classified government project which was not even publicly known at the time and he had direct access to the evidence in question. OK now my doubt is starting to fade away but it’s still pretty strong.

Next it turns out this person was on a 130k to 150k wage, $1million+ pension and is risking jail time, risking pension and risking reputation and was personally briefing the president on intelligence matters. Ok now more doubt is going and I now have doubt this is some scam to sell books. Why give all that up to just make £10k selling books?

Next the guy says he has been running an investigation and has collected a load of evidence and it been shown he did have access to this classified data from his job. He is not only willing but has handed over evidence to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community. The IGIC is not only trained to look out for scams but they specialise in investigations involving classified data. The IGIC comes back and says this evidence was handed over, its valid, has merit and is serious. Now I am not just viewing it as entertainment but taking it more seriously. Now I have real trouble believing its some sort of scam to sell books.

So, a SKIF committee is created some of the people are completely anti UAP and don’t remotely believe any of this going into the SKIF. These are highly ranked people with high classification access. They come out the SKIF some of them visibly shaken and disturbed and almost everyone single one gives statement saying the evidence is valid, has merit, is real. More doubt drops away and I just don’t see at this point how it can be just a bunch of people speaking BS making up nonsense to sell books.

Fast forward and a muti year long Congress investigation again made up of high ranked people with classification access. They too come to the same conclusion and while they cannot give us the direct evidence they can describe the evidence which they did in the report and confirm they have direct access to muti sensor data, high resolution data and more. This investigation involved direct field trips to the locations provided by the original guy. What reason do I have to doubt this?

At this point how do you justified it’s just a bunch of people BS talking as a scam to sell books? This isn’t even taking into account all the heads of department and admirals and other who are all confirmed the events.

So while I am not remotely 100% convinced neither can I just write this off as just entertaining nonsense anymore.

Did you even read this weeks Congress investigation report? What did you make of it given it gives the sources of there evidence and describes in detail the evidence they viewed? EDIT: As I said before if its just BS talk to sell books how do you explain the SKIF investigation, ICIG investigation and now the Congress investigation all agreeing the evidence is real and has merit?
 
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No, I haven’t

Ok.

At this point how do you justified it’s just a bunch of people BS talking as a scam to sell books?

Because it's the most likely and reasonable explanation.

It can also be proven, because they (the people selling the books) are directly pushing the agenda (because they're sat in these joke congressional meetings giving statements), ergo; they're using the whole thing as a vehicle to make money, sell books and get on the TV.
 
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“Because it's the most likely and reasonable explanation.”
But it’s not because if that was the case this would have stopped at the IGIC and never got past that point yet alone getting past the SKIF and Congress investigation as well. You cannot just BS your way though an IGIC or SKIF commute with fake evidence. Its not a reasonable explanation when 3 investigations concluded the evidence is real and has merit. You keep skipping over that point.

If you look at what is involved for your scam idea to work it clear the idea is just not reasonable.


“ (because they're sat in these joke congressional meetings giving statements)”
Except it was more than that. If you bothered to read the report you will see that it wasn’t a joke and they did a serious investigation that went as far as field trips to the locations provided and much more.
It was a full multi-year, internal investigation. They looked over classified reports, and intelligence sources, interview people directly in those departments. Everyone in Davids department was interviewed and they all supported version of events. Saying this is a scam to sell books just doesn’t remotely fit the evidence.
Your acting like its just bunch of people talking BS without evidence; completely ignoring the fact they handed over the evidence which was took away vetted and confirmed as real not once but 3 times in 3 full on serious investigations.



“It can also be proven, because they (the people selling the books) are directly pushing the agenda”
That’s not proof. Something like 99% of the people involved in this are not selling books and the 1 or 2 that are, are not doing it for the money. They are doing it to get the message out there for what they see as a serious matter. The whole vehicle to make money makes no sense when you look at their jobs and the people involved.

Who thinks let’s give up a 130k job and risk losing £1+ million pension and risk jail time to make 10k selling books that has to split what little profit there is between a group of people. That combined with the 3 full on serious investigations and your book idea just doesn't make sense. If it was just BS to sell books all 3 investigations would have come back and said its BS. If it was all made up how do you explain they handed over evidence which was confirmed as valid and with merit multiple times? EDIT: To put it another way people like David earnt more in 1 or 2 months then then would make for a year selling books. How is that a valid money motivation?
 
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Being the pedantic i am, surely you mean a SCIF - Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility?

As i'm not quite sure what a Ukrainian anti-tank missile or the Shotokan Karate-Do International Federation has got to do with this? :confused:
 
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