Pentagon releases UFO footage

Nice TLDR synopsis by the BBC.

The US government has said it has no explanation for dozens of unidentified flying objects seen by military pilots.

A Pentagon report released on Friday says of 144 reports made about the phenomena since 2004, all but one remain unexplained.

It does not rule out the possibility that the objects are extra-terrestrial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57619755
 
When looking at any report of a sensitive nature you need to make a note of what is not said. The preliminary report does not say they do not believe that any of the UAP sightings were not of extra-terrestrial origin. The entire preliminary report is summarized as they need to do more investigation and analysis into UAP's to figure out what the unknowns are and that current sensor limitations are largely hindering the ability to gather accurate evidenc

Very much so.

It's interesting to know they say current sensors are limiting their ability to gather accurate evidence given they are using the best recording sensors in the world-as there is a multitude of things that could be read into that. I suppose it's down to context as it was previously reported the USS Princeton only began to detect them after a sensor upgrade across the fleet in 2004.

I haven't read the report yet so I'm at something of a disadvantage ;)
 
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I wasn't expecting anything more from this initial report. It admits they aren't US assets and admits they are there and need investigating in a sensible manner and a none judgemental or stigma inducing way that can ruin careers.
 
The report is a great step forward, I know it won’t please those who’s minds are made up on both sceptic and E.T. sides. But for those of us who believe there is a genuine mystery here to be solved scientifically, it’s nice to see the US finally take the issue seriously.

This is a great interview with Andre Carson a member of the intelligence committee who has seen the classified report. Watch till the end it might be eye opening for those in doubt which direction this issue is travelling.

 
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I believe its because of the accepted theory that any being capable of reaching us would likely not be our friend. Assuming they were above type II and well on their way to type III they would be 1000s of years ahead of us and have motives we likely would never comprehend.

Outside of that it would present so many ethical problems for humans who have for the last 2000+ years based a lot of values on the simplicity of religion.
That's an accepted theory? Seems very human-centric, and to vastly overestimate our importance in the universe. Which is something we tend to do, a lot.

The universe being pretty massive and filled with the same material resources we have here.

I'm not sure why it would be assumed that any being capable of reaching us would be hostile. As opposed to merely curious or even entirely disinterested in us. We wouldn't be special. We wouldn't be important.

I know in all the movies they have to conquer the Earth because they want to make it their new home, but in reality if they have the tech to zip around the universe they probably couldn't give a crap about this particular planet, or even galaxy.
 
That has to be the most underwhelming report ever and actually despite some people really clinging to what it doesn't say, it seems to confirm that the UAPs really haven't had much proper analysis done.

In a limited number of incidents, UAP reportedly appeared to exhibit unusual flight characteristics. These observations could be the result of sensor errors, spoofing, or observer misperception and require additional rigorous analysis
To me this confirms that no proper analysis has occurred in most of the cases where things defy the laws of physics, making it more obvious that the UAP related programs only perform a cursory analysis and puts more credence on those with a few braincells that have analysed some of the video's shown so far.

If there was absolutely any glimmer of hope, they'd have the same scientific community that pulled together to create the LHC apply their wisdom on this as any form of E.T. intelligent life would be amazing.. Yet, all we get is a lacklustre report that just says "Yeah, we probably need to do some actual analysis to figure some of these out"..

The report should have been a big step backwards for UFO hunters, but their whole conspiracy theory is based on a lack of information which is precisely why I see it's being spun as a step forwards.

Still, each to their own, keep believing it it makes you happy!
 
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Indeed^^^

What this report does is adds credibility for scientists to now haul arse in and look into the data and recordings by instruments properly without feeling they will be ridiculed or looked down upon by their peers. The report won't give any answers, the report allows actual analysis now to take place freely.

That's an accepted theory? Seems very human-centric, and to vastly overestimate our importance in the universe. Which is something we tend to do, a lot.

The universe being pretty massive and filled with the same material resources we have here.

I'm not sure why it would be assumed that any being capable of reaching us would be hostile. As opposed to merely curious or even entirely disinterested in us. We wouldn't be special. We wouldn't be important.

I know in all the movies they have to conquer the Earth because they want to make it their new home, but in reality if they have the tech to zip around the universe they probably couldn't give a crap about this particular planet, or even galaxy.


Agreed, who accepts this theory exactly I've only ever heard Stephen Hawking advise caution when sending out signals pointing to our whereabouts and he referenced early human settlers and adventurers that occupied native lands and took what isn't theirs.

If something is out there capable of intergalactic travel then it's almost certainly as discussed in this thread before, probe/robotic in nature (AI) and not biological. It is what we have already done in a primitive manner, Voyager 1 and 2 are heading out of our solar system and one day may be detected by life elsewhere or mistaken as a UFO when it hurtles past their planet.

Some people think they will be hostile because that's what humans would do in our current state and this goes back in history as were are not (globally) as intelligent a we need to be to have that kind of capability, we are still primitive. If a species is hostile with that kind of capability then they will almost certainly have destroyed themselves. Picture the scenario, factions of a civilisation at war, with UNLIMITED power and energy at their disposal, it only ends one way. The reason I say unlimited is because you have to have unlimited power to generate the kind of forces needed to uphold folding space-time to flick one one place to another in the universe (technically not physically travelling faster than light but effectively using wormhole theory which on paper is valid but as said, you need unimaginable energy rivalling that of black holes iirc).

Those civilisations won't be hostile, they will be scientific explorers in nature with no intention to interfere but monitor and maybe make contact when the life they are monitoring has evolved beyond a certain point. I can't see it being any other way really.
 
That's an accepted theory?

Exactly, complete rubbish.
About an hour ago I asked 5 adults in my house what their reaction would be if it was announced Aliens have been here for decades and they all shrugged their shoulders.
Not one care was given but one Brother in Law said it would be amazing.
I absolutely know if I asked around 100 people in my department at work they would give the same answer, nobody cares, especially women.
 
Not sure how many women use or post on these forums but that's going to trigger someone. :D

All 3 of them said something like "I hope they're tidier than you?" :)

The women at work will probably say "Well I hope they are better drivers than men".

@Lysander
Why if Aliens have been here for decades would your wife be bothered?
Makes zero sense.

And while we're at it, is there anybody in this thread who would poo their pants if there was proof Aliens have been here for millennia?
 
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