Photoshop and Creative Suite to be permanently subscription based

Raymond Lin said:
It does mean CS6 will hold it's value !
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Until they come up with a few new formats and don't include update support :p

.SDPSD, Super Duper Photoshop Document - you heard it here first!

We've actually just encountered our first win with the whole creative cloud thing. Client asked if they could have InDesign on a capture machine and because the sub gives you the whole master collection it was easy as clicking a button. I'm sure it will wear off in 3 years when we're still paying a billion pounds a month for more useless content aware fill updates though.
 
I don't see any reason to sign up to this Creative Cloud, in fact 99% of people who work in the creative industry only need Adobe CS4.

I think CS4-CS6 will be good for another 5-7 years before, until when new OS/CPU come along and no longer work efficiently with old software.

For photographer who constantly need to update camera raw, just use alternative software and adapt your workflow, or even better expose correctly/creatively.
 
It's not the "expose correctly/creatively" as you can use any program you wish to redo that. It is the reading of the camera RAW..Loads of us do not use or do not like DNG files.
If you live in the countryside or Seaside, then internet reception is either LOW or non existant. If You and Wife/Girlfriend/boyfriend both use Photoshop, you can NOT use it at the same time on two PC's, which is TOTTALLY STUPID. Those who pay for CC will be paying far more over the years and will not own it..Sorry, when I buy/pay for something I OWN IT, not lease it. If it was cheaper to lease my car I would go out and lease a better one, but much better to OWN it. People use to lease their TV's off of Granada once, then they got wiser and saved up and bought their own TV and OWNED it..
What adobe and Pros are saying is---PS is for Digitisers/Artists etc. not Photogs. Lightroom is for Photogs. I prefer PS cRAW and PS to Lightroom. So I for one will not be upgrading my Canon. I shall stick to my 50D & 7D till they brakedown, then if poss I'll pay for repair, and use Lightroom and PS6. PS5 for a while as I prefer it.
What they also be saying is--If you be a Pro and use All our programs (3 or more) and you want updates, pay through the nose via Cloud. Majority of us will never use the new updates as we do not need them and Adobe knows that. They'll make their cash off of the pros...Off now to practise a bit in Lightroom. Taa-Raa
 
RussD said:
It's not the "expose correctly/creatively" as you can use any program you wish to redo that. It is the reading of the camera RAW..Loads of us do not use or do not like DNG files.
If you live in the countryside or Seaside, then internet reception is either LOW or non existant. If You and Wife/Girlfriend/boyfriend both use Photoshop, you can NOT use it at the same time on two PC's, which is TOTTALLY STUPID. Those who pay for CC will be paying far more over the years and will not own it..Sorry, when I buy/pay for something I OWN IT, not lease it. If it was cheaper to lease my car I would go out and lease a better one, but much better to OWN it. People use to lease their TV's off of Granada once, then they got wiser and saved up and bought their own TV and OWNED it..
What adobe and Pros are saying is---PS is for Digitisers/Artists etc. not Photogs. Lightroom is for Photogs. I prefer PS cRAW and PS to Lightroom. So I for one will not be upgrading my Canon. I shall stick to my 50D & 7D till they brakedown, then if poss I'll pay for repair, and use Lightroom and PS6. PS5 for a while as I prefer it.
What they also be saying is--If you be a Pro and use All our programs (3 or more) and you want updates, pay through the nose via Cloud. Majority of us will never use the new updates as we do not need them and Adobe knows that. They'll make their cash off of the pros...Off now to practise a bit in Lightroom. Taa-Raa
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You realise you only have to actually validate your licence about once a month, something that photoshop actually does at the moment anyway in the background without you realising?

It also is still installed on a HDD rather than running in the cloud.

kd
 
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/0...plaints-Poll-of-Photographers-Photoshop-users

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/08/Adobe-photoshop-cc
 
My sister has this subscription as she's a freelance designer. She said it's a move that works for her for one primary reason.

Because there's limited-to-nil backwards compatibility with the products, and because the prices are so high, people tend to only upgrade once every few years, which means that often your clients or partners aer unable to work with your products due to mismatching versions. With the subscription based access, everyone will be on an even keel when it comes to updates etc.

Its an interesting point, but i still wont be boarding this ship.
 
If you don't need the very latest version you could just download the entire CS2 suite off the Adobe site. The CS2 activations servers have been disabled and the full products with serial numbers can be downloaded from here.
 
The trouble with all of Adobe's suit is most people using 10% of the application, yet the pricing reflects 100% usage on a daily basis. That's how I feel anyway. I use Photoshop, Lightroom, Encore and AfterEffects on a weekly/monthly basis for small tasks and could never justify the full subscription to all of these.
 
neil_g said:
You need to factor in upgrade prices over your three years. With CC you'll always s be up to date with no need to purchase upgrades.

For work it has actually worked out cheaper over three years than buying the CS suite.

I think its a good idea, at least £17 a month for Photoshop is easier to budget for than £600 outright. And like a lot of people said I'm not surprised its come around considering how many pirated copies of adobe products are out there. I'm more surprised its taken this long for them to haul in the reigns of control..

It's the pirates that have made the rod for everyone else's back if you ask me..
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And the likelyhood of this actually affecting pirated copies is...?

None... Pirated copies of CS7 will be out within a week of it being released with people not having to pay any subscription to use it...
 
Russinating said:
The trouble with all of Adobe's suit is most people using 10% of the application, yet the pricing reflects 100% usage on a daily basis. That's how I feel anyway. I use Photoshop, Lightroom, Encore and AfterEffects on a weekly/monthly basis for small tasks and could never justify the full subscription to all of these.
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I just decided to go Elements 11 for £50. I have a CS loaded onto my PC and I mainly use lightroom. I've been into PS a handful of times for removing stuff and the rest of CS is utter bloat for me.

I did some research into what was missing from the full PS in elements 11 and none of it was any use to me and elements just get's the features I will use passed down from the full version.

I'd rather have an easier interface than bloat I personally will never use. What are photographers finding they need in CS that they won't get in elements 11? A genuine question because I scoured forums on comparisons and found little for the photographer that they would miss?
 
Adobe has just made ONE BILLION DOLLARS on Those using CC. That is 500,000 people, so Adobe is not losing any cash over pirating.
You will still be able to Pirate the CC.. Adobe is doing this CC as a CASH COW.

Remember those who go CC---If there are two or more in your household who wants to use Adobe Photoshop at same time on their own PC's, Adobe will NOT let you..Only on One PC in the house at one time...Or Two PC, one in House, one in work. It is a RIP-OFF.
Majority of us Only use Photoshop and or Lightroom and will never use the new updates..So stop worrying..
 
UncleBob said:
If you don't need the very latest version you could just download the entire CS2 suite off the Adobe site. The CS2 activations servers have been disabled and the full products with serial numbers can be downloaded from here.
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This was for people who owned CS2 and reinstalling where it wouldn't activate again.

There has been clarification since this story broke. Adobe has not officially released the CS2 software for free. Instead, it has canceled its CS2 license management servers because of a technical glitch, so for those with existing licenses it is now offering downloads that do not require contact with the licensing servers. While Adobe admits this may be seen as it giving its software away for free, this service is intended for those with existing Adobe CS2 licenses.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57562515-263/adobe-releases-creative-suite-2-for-free/
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RussD said:
Adobe has just made ONE BILLION DOLLARS on Those using CC. That is 500,000 people, so Adobe is not losing any cash over pirating.
You will still be able to Pirate the CC.. Adobe is doing this CC as a CASH COW.

Remember those who go CC---If there are two or more in your household who wants to use Adobe Photoshop at same time on their own PC's, Adobe will NOT let you..Only on One PC in the house at one time...Or Two PC, one in House, one in work. It is a RIP-OFF.
Majority of us Only use Photoshop and or Lightroom and will never use the new updates..So stop worrying..
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Stop being such a Drama Queen.

Adobe are a business selling their product how they wish. It's not like they are selling air, and there are alternatives out there.
 
I'd just like to say here that I'm pretty sure Office 365 (Microsoft Office with subscription) has recently become reached 1 million subscribers in 100 days. That's faster than facebook, dropbox, spotify, and only slower than Instagram.

This is a business decision that makes sense as one, and people are clearly going to be happy to pay.

kd
 
Not really quite the same. The monthly payments for Office 365 are more affordable, and you still have the option to buy a perpetual license for the software. Furthermore, I think people who use Office 365 are much more likely to use all the software within that bundle ; the same can't be said for Adobe's Creative Cloud.
 
Nexus said:
and there are alternatives out there.
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Only they aren't as powerful and fully featured. It's especially hard to go back the way when one has used Adobe for 12 years. As I'm sure there are others that has used it much longer and will find it very difficult to go to something lesser.
 
V F said:
Only they aren't as powerful and fully featured. It's especially hard to go back the way when one has used Adobe for 12 years. As I'm sure there are others that has used it much longer and will find it very difficult to go to something lesser.
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Depends on exactly which software package you are talking about though, given their are a fair old number in the Creative Cloud suite.

I'd take the guess you are probably referring to Photoshop though, which is still the standard.

Ultimately though, if you are somebody who makes a living through the use of Photoshop, its hardly an unreasonable fee. If you don't like it, don't upgrade and nothing will change for you other than whatever future features they have.
 
The company I work for have just bought 5 team seats for £1600 a year, the renewal next year will cost the same. Works out a lot cheaper than upgrading every year or two. We mainly use Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, Acrobat and Illustrator.
 
It appears that we will not see Photoshop CC or any of the Creative Cloud apps until 20:00 PDT. So it's 04:00 BST tomorrow for us.
 
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