piledriver - Official AMD FX4300,FX6300 and FX8350 review thread

passey89 · 27 Oct 2012 at 11:43

~>Dg<~ said:
the i3570k is on this weeks aswell so at its current price its a no brainer

well it is if you need a new mobo as well.

For me its just a simple swap 1075t for 8350

~>Dg<~ · 27 Oct 2012 at 12:17

yeah if on am3+ already then yeah its worth going that route any other = no

blowa fuse · 27 Oct 2012 at 12:30

Are the people that are upgrading to piledriver going to be using windows 8 or staying on win7?

Muel · 27 Oct 2012 at 12:32

TTLs video summed it up for me, this is a terrible blow for performance/enthusiast computing.

passey89 · 27 Oct 2012 at 15:35

blowa fuse said:
Are the people that are upgrading to piledriver going to be using windows 8 or staying on win7?

I'm already on windows 8 so my piledriver will be on windows 8

wolvers · 27 Oct 2012 at 16:23

Muel said:
TTLs video summed it up for me, this is a terrible blow for performance/enthusiast computing.

Stop being a big old drama queen. It's nothing of the sort.

JonSmith · 27 Oct 2012 at 16:38

Terrible blow? AMD just won back the budget gaming recommendation in my books. We might start seeing unlocked core i3s (or at least with turbo core) to compete with the 4300/6300.

elroberto · 27 Oct 2012 at 18:20

blowa fuse said:
Are the people that are upgrading to piledriver going to be using windows 8 or staying on win7?

Yes I'll be going windows 8...as for the metro interface...who knows.

Hagar · 28 Oct 2012 at 21:26

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
However,if you look at some other FX8150 reviews though regarding power consumption:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX8150/12.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-sandy-bridge-e,3071-19.html

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150fx_8120fx_6100_and_fx_4170,7.html

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/amd_fx-8150/12.html

I would be interested to see how the Phenom II X6 1090T or 1100T fare against the FX8350 overclocked with regards to power consumption.

I have been testing my system power consumption at idle and at 3.82GHz OC. Tested at the wall socket base unit only.

1090T with a 238MHz busclock, x4 or x16 with cool and quiet, 2380MHz NB and HT, 1.39V (CPU-Z)
Attached kit
8Gb 1600MHz DDR at 1590MHz 9/9/9/24/33 1T
M5A99X motherboard
MSI HD6950 2GB @ 810/1250
240GB Sandisk extreme SSD
500GB WD RE2 HDD
WD Black 1TB HDD
Total of 4 no 120mm fans including push pull on heatsink
PSU Seasonic x650 gold

Power at idle or browsing 130-140W
Power at 3.82GHz prime on six cores 280-290W roughly double
Power at 3.82GHz prime on six cores plus Heaven 2.5 benchmarking gives 410-420W roughly treble.
In a warm room it was pushing 58C in the last test.
Will do piledriver when it arrives

humbug · 28 Oct 2012 at 22:58

nkata said:
I have been testing my system power consumption at idle and at 3.82GHz OC. Tested at the wall socket base unit only.

1090T with a 238MHz busclock, x4 or x16 with cool and quiet, 2380MHz NB and HT, 1.39V (CPU-Z)
Attached kit
8Gb 1600MHz DDR at 1590MHz 9/9/9/24/33 1T
M5A99X motherboard
MSI HD6950 2GB @ 810/1250
240GB Sandisk extreme SSD
500GB WD RE2 HDD
WD Black 1TB HDD
Total of 4 no 120mm fans including push pull on heatsink
PSU Seasonic x650 gold

Power at idle or browsing 130-140W
Power at 3.82GHz prime on six cores 280-290W roughly double
Power at 3.82GHz prime on six cores plus Heaven 2.5 benchmarking gives 410-420W roughly treble.
In a warm room it was pushing 58C in the last test.
Will do piledriver when it arrives

Looking forward to that.

opethdisciple · 29 Oct 2012 at 00:02

I just watched this. He makes Piledriver sound "Completely and utterly Pants" his own words....

mmj_uk · 29 Oct 2012 at 00:17

It's just an overclocked FX8150 with a few tweaks really... I think the main thing AMD have got right with Piledriver is the price, £200 for Bulldozer was utter madness. Piledriver is a good sensibly priced alternative if raw gaming fps isn't your primary concern.

opethdisciple · 29 Oct 2012 at 01:07

mmj_uk said:
It's just an overclocked FX8150 with a few tweaks really... I think the main thing AMD have got right with Piledriver is the price, £200 for Bulldozer was utter madness. Piledriver is a good sensibly priced alternative if raw gaming fps isn't your primary concern.

Yea I agree, its a fine chip for everything, but if gaming is why you are putting your rig together, then a 3570k would be a much better chip.

~>Dg<~ · 29 Oct 2012 at 01:35

tbh its not as bad as a lot make out if i had a am3+ board i would have gone with the new pd cpu and been happy

it will be interesting to see how with w8 if anything progresses

humbug · 29 Oct 2012 at 01:39

Even for Games its a pretty reasonable chip, at 1080P there are only a couple of games where its notably slower than a 3570K, and even then those games are still getting good FPS.

Marine-RX179 · 29 Oct 2012 at 09:54

~>Dg<~ said:
tbh its not as bad as a lot make out if i had a am3+ board i would have gone with the new pd cpu and been happy

it will be interesting to see how with w8 if anything progresses

But for people that got AM3+ board they would most likely already have a Phenom II x4/X6 overclocked to 4.0-4.2GHz. So assuming clock for clock Phenom II and PD are simliar, going from the Phenom II x4/X6 at 4.0-4.2GHz to a PD 6 or 8 cores overclocked to 4.6GHz is really only the extra 400-600MHz of speed for gaming...

Hagar · 29 Oct 2012 at 10:31

At least ASUS have got their act together and listed the 8350 on the M5A99X mobo.

With 2133Mhz ram. I will have a potential bus clock speed of 1066 x3/10 = 320MHz. An NB and HT of 2560, 2880 or more, and looking for 320 x 14 = 4480MHz or 320 x 15 = 4800MHz, this depends on cooling and power of course. That is plan A we will see.

Marine-RX179 · 29 Oct 2012 at 10:39

nkata said:
At least ASUS have got their act together and listed the 8350 on the M5A99X mobo.

With 2133Mhz ram. I will have a potential bus clock speed of 1066 x3/10 = 320MHz. An NB and HT of 2560, 2880 or more, and looking for 320 x 14 = 4480MHz or 320 x 15 = 4800MHz, this depends on cooling and power of course. That is plan A we will see.

Yea but not sure if it is wise to go beyond 4.6GHz on overclock...think review have show the CPU alone at 4.8GHz would consume around 300W? So would most likely need water cooling for that, or the most-high-end air cooler.

So with the extra cost on the CPU cooling as well as power consumption considered, not really sure the "good price" for the PD is really good "value".

passey89 · 29 Oct 2012 at 10:40

Marine-RX179 said:
Yea but not sure if it is wise to go beyond 4.6GHz on overclock...think review have show the CPU alone at 4.8GHz would consume around 300W? So would most likely need water cooling for that, or the most-high-end air cooler.

will let you know.

I have full water loop ready for my 8350 as soon as OCUK get it in stock.

Hoping for 5Ghz.

humbug · 29 Oct 2012 at 10:41

Marine-RX179 said:
But for people that got AM3+ board most likely would have a Phenom II X6 overclocked to 4.2GHz. So assuming clock for clock Phenom II and PD are simliarly, going from the Phenom II X6 at 4.2GHz to a PD 6 or 8 cores is really only the extra 400MHz of speed for gaming...

Running Phenom II x6's at 4.2Ghz is not the norm, 45nm with 6 cores they can be tricky to get up to that speed for 24/7 use.
4Ghz is the usual for them

They are also missing some modern features and instruction sets that the Piledriver chips do have.
Phenom's are old, they are older than the first i7 chips.

I'm watching a couple of threads on other forums in which people are have taken possession on FX-8350 to replace Thubans and Bulldozers.

So far one stable at 5Ghz on water and another at 4.7Ghz on air, they clock quite a bit higher than Bulldozer and still run cooler. at that they are some way faster than an x6 @ 4 / 4.2Ghz.