piracy? lets solve it with a letter!

Simple really. I used to download all my albums via Napster and Bittorrent, then Spotify came out. I haven't downloaded any music illegally for years.

If the entertainment industry pulled their finger out and realised that it's two-thousand and fourteen and not the nineteen-fifties and provided a Spotify-like service most people wouldn't pirate except the die-hards. Netflix is great, but if I want to listen to an album on release day I can boot up Spotify. If I want to watch a show on release day I either have to buy Sky or pirate.

Why haven't they learned their lesson? They realised how to monopolise on VHS after they tried to ban it for years, same for MP3s and now for TV and film.
 
DannyDrama said:
I would last 1 minute 30 seconds chained to a bunk bed with a velociraptor. There goes my productivity today. Thanks Judgeneo. :mad::p
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Wat O____O

Zethor said:
The entertainment industry needs to spend less money paying lawyers and consultancy companies to fight windmills and more money on services intended to provide quick, quality access to their shows at reasonable prices.
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This. Maybe they should learn from the games industry. Take some of Ubisoft's releases, where they required a constant internet connection. In the first week of release (can't remember exactly what game it was), the DRM servers failed, meaning people who paid for the game couldn't play, and the people who downloaded a cracked version, could play.

Similar to Sim City, where you had to sit in a virtual queue to actually play the game you just bought. WTAF!

My favourite though, is Game Dev Tycoon. Who released their own cracked version, where after a while you lose sales to pirates and lose the game :D
http://www.greenheartgames.com/2013...lator-and-then-go-bankrupt-because-of-piracy/

More here: http://www.cracked.com/article_20482_5-hilarious-ways-game-designers-are-messing-with-pirates.html

Mark A said:
I thought this was already the case? Sure I have seen in comments sections about people receiving a letter from their ISP for downloading a certain file etc.
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I know of people who have received letters/emails because they have been caught torrenting (i.e. the torrent was bait) and been ordered to delete the torrented file(s).
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Person-Inte...425&sr=8-2&keywords=person+of+interest+bluray

Take this for example.

We're currently nearing the end of Season 3, if you follow as it broadcasts in the US.

Season 1 and 2 are both available on Netflix (In fact, Season 2's only in the last month become available on Netflix, Season 1's been on about 2 months longer)

Season 2 actually finished 1H 2013.

So, Season 2 of Person Of Interest Complete has been available to download via torrents since May 9th 2013, but it's taking till June 2014 for it to be buy-able?
Talking of Netflix, I started watching "The Prisoner" on it (The remake) and now it's disappeared........
 
Indeed Martini i use Lovefilm rentals by post and even then i still cannot get Rise of the planet of the apes on bluray or in HD from them because of some dispute. So i downloaded it instead. Then you have people trying to make the UK cough up £50 a game on the PS4 and attempt to raise prices on the whole game market like recently yet steam can offer the same title costing £30 12 months on at around £6 or £7?


Pull the other one if these idiots offered thier product at £5 instead of £50 they would probably end up with the same amount of money getting more people to spend the £5 than the majority refusing to pay £50 and downloading it. Then you have all those fees to chase people, You pay for copyright protection and useless things like HDCP patents. Put all those savings into a cheaper higher quality product and lets talk because i am no fan of torrents or hidden game.exe malware.



I will laugh at the letter the same way i laugh at the TV license, As consuela from Family Guy once said to Stewie "come get bitch" :)
 
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My favourite though, is Game Dev Tycoon. Who released their own cracked version, where after a while you lose sales to pirates and lose the game :D
http://www.greenheartgames.com/2013...lator-and-then-go-bankrupt-because-of-piracy/

More here: http://www.cracked.com/article_20482_5-hilarious-ways-game-designers-are-messing-with-pirates.html
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That's both funny and sad..

I imagine a few kids are going to have some explaining to do when these letters go out, beyond that i doubt they'll have much affect. Most torrent users already know they can be tracked!
 
like people are saying - look at steam, amazon mp3 / iTunes and Spotify for good examples of how to kill (or at least minimize) piracy


the problem with tv and film is that what we want and the business model being used to match up

all people want - is HD quality video file, on release day that they can put on whatever tv / pc etc they want to without fuss

the whole tv / film model is based around keeping the value up for as long as possible, rather than on volume sales

they are selling new films in the cinema at £10 per viewing - why would they want to degrade those sales to £2.50 forever?

our expectations are not matching their business plans by a long way
 
gettothechopper said:
like people are saying - look at steam, amazon mp3 / iTunes and Spotify for good examples of how to kill (or at least minimize) piracy


the problem with tv and film is that what we want and the business model being used to match up

all people want - is HD quality video file, on release day that they can put on whatever tv / pc etc they want to without fuss

the whole tv / film model is based around keeping the value up for as long as possible, rather than on volume sales

they are selling new films in the cinema at £10 per viewing - why would they want to degrade those sales to £2.50 forever?

our expectations are not matching their business plans by a long way
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Exactly, not too many years ago we had a 21in CRT TV and a video player then DVD player. Paying £10 or w/e to go to cinema was though of as good, but now with the price of 40+in TVs, projectors, surround sound there really is a smaller reason to go out to the cinema. Home entertainment is light years ahead of where it was but the cinema hasnt changed much.
 
Find it a bit silly these days - the majority of people (~70%) I know who are downloading content illegally buy physical media, have netflix and spotify accounts, etc. and are willing to pay but are thoroughly fed up with dealing with often upto 2+ year delays on legal access to content, silly restrictions/feature limitations and/or stuff just not being available here legally at all.

Sure you get the odd freeloader who won't pay, will never pay and IMO deserves to feel the weight of the law but they are these days the minority.
 
tibbsey said:
Oh, no I didn't think it would be that simple. To me, "listening in on traffic" makes it sound more nefarious than that, packet sniffing or w/e.
If that's all they do though, how do they get the downloader's information from that, surely they'd only be able to get info on the seeder/s? (I don't torrent, so don't really know what occurs or what information would be available to them)
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in torrent everyone shares the file, you get a little pice then you copy it and send it on to everyone else and so on.

think of it like 10 people sat round a table they take a book and each takes a page from it then they copy the page and pass it on to someone else and then they copy their new one and pass it on. till everyone has the whole book.

this is why they go after torrents because everyone isn't a downlaoder they're an Uploader which means they can hit them harder if you simply download then its not worth the effort to go after you but if you're i na torrent with 1000 people they can do you for distributing 1000 copiers of their product
 
Just look at PC gaming. It is fantastic now due to the abundant availability of CD key sales. Far easier to buy a great game for 3 or 4 quid in the sales and get a genuine key, download it and play it within an hour than faff around with dodgy versions/keygens or physical copies.
 
Pretty much what has been said already regarding TV shows and movies.

You need so many different subscriptions to actually get everything you might want to watch. I tried Lovefilm instant with a trial over christmas last year. The amount of stuff you could actually get via streaming was pathetic compared to having to get it delivered by post for no better reason than to try and get more money from you. And of course, the selection was still barely a drop in the ocean.
 
Jono8 said:
Just look at PC gaming. It is fantastic now due to the abundant availability of CD key sales. Far easier to buy a great game for 3 or 4 quid in the sales and get a genuine key, download it and play it within an hour than faff around with dodgy versions/keygens or physical copies.
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Completely agree

With movies/tv series it's so easy to stream them (illegally?) without the need for downloading or Netflix etc... I'd happily watch cinema style adverts at the start if it then showed a HD stream for free
 
Game of thrones + Tv License + Sky Subscription + Adverts = ££££££
Game of thrones + Broadband - No Adverts - No Tv License = £

I think I'll go for the broadband option :)
 
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