Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

That's a really good time, well done on that. Hope that you don't suffer too much over the next few days and that you've managed to get properly warmed up.

I did 23 miles earlier today which was pretty hard going, the week was a bit disrupted so ended up doing 11 miles on Friday and would have liked a bit more recovery time before my long run but not feeling too bad just now. I do quite like having the stats to hand so I can see that on this training run the distance climbed was half a Munro. I think probably one more longish run then taper down for the marathon at the end of May.

Well done DP! Good to see the issues you've had recently didn't prevent you being able to race with a good time in what sounds like nasty conditions.


Thanks guys!
I knew pre-injury i could get under 3:12 so it was mostly a question of how much fitness I had lost and how missed training would come to play by mile 20. I had intended to run a conservative 3:22 pace but then earlier in thr week I had a slight cold, then the forecast was terrible, and I woke up last night with stomachs cramps. Put my middle finger up at life and thought I would go for 3:18 but as the starting gun went off I decided to join the 3:15 pace group just to see what happens. Given the cold and rain I figured going a little faster will be more comfortable for the first 20 miles and then I would hot the wall,or not. First 8 went great, the rain was only moderate then, breathing was easy and relaxed. By mile 10 my left knee started hurting a little, I got very annoyed that after all this it was my left leg giving issues so I did my best to ignore. Slowly the miles ticked by, the rain got heavier, the wind picked up, muscles got tired and my whole left leg was aching. But the pace team was great, excellent splits and very motivating. I really didn't want to give up mile 15 or so but I was starting to doubt my endurance and left leg pain. After that each. lie was different, some I felt very strong, others a little tired. Mile 20 came but unlike last year I had no desire to up the pace because if I could stay with the pacers I would already have a big PR and fantastic time. By mile 24 I found myself edging away from the pace group and actually my left leg didn't hurt any more, it was just general fatigue all over but with just 2 to go I thought I could try to clip some time. The pace group were aiming for 3:14:30, we were something like 10 seconds ahead of that, and I though it would be nice to get a 3:13:xx , so drop from 7:25 pace to 7:10 should do it. I managed a 7:05 and then soe,thing like 6:59 and what felt like a sprint for the last 0.2 but was likely an awkward shuffle. The last 5 miles the rain was very heavy and driving down with a strong head wind, just nasty conditions.

About 30seconds past the finish I started shivering, legs cramped and I could barely stumble to bag pickup and then a changing tent. Shivering got fairly uncontrollable. They had this amazing massage service, for free. With a fast finish there was almost no one waiting and some amazing women heated me right back up. Paramedics were in the massage tent as several people were suffering full on hypothermia and exposure. One of them quickly looked at me and then said they would come back in 5 if I hadn't recovered but the massage ladies stopped the shivering and sorted my legs right out. Then a horrible shuffle through wind and rain to the shuttle busses, shivering commencing.

Not fun conditions but for most of the course the rain didn't have a big Impact. Just really hit you mile 20 as you turned around and ran up the board walk of the Jeraey shore. Wind blowing in your face at that stage was just plain nasty. Didn't feel cold while running and I thought I would have a few minutes to get changed before the cold hit me but it was like lightning. Medical tent looked like it was overflowing due to the cold.

The race was well organized but they should have handed out space blankets at the finish, not towels. And they needed 5x the number of changing tents. 1 small tent was ridiculous. People standing outside looking white as a sheet and shaking violently waiting to get in.
 
Did Lichfield half marathon today. First event like this. Happy with 1:56 and think I've got a tastes for it. Needs some new road shoes as I was really struggling by 11miles.

Well done, that's a good start and hope you don't feel any ill-effects tomorrow. New trainers are probably a good idea if you're starting to feel a bit footsore by mile 11.
 
Does anyone know if there's a way to edit out pbs from a run on strava?
My gf and I ran the Birmingham 10k and they had a section where you run indoors. This fluffed my watches time for that mile and is giving her pbs outside of what she achieved by quite a measure. Which will be harder for her to beat in the near future.

Any way to take them out without removing the run?
 
Does anyone know if there's a way to edit out pbs from a run on strava?
My gf and I ran the Birmingham 10k and they had a section where you run indoors. This fluffed my watches time for that mile and is giving her pbs outside of what she achieved by quite a measure. Which will be harder for her to beat in the near future.

Any way to take them out without removing the run?

I "think" if you edit the run to trim the start/end it also removes PB's due to edited data. I think anyway. My first 1/2 I forgot to turn my watch off for about 15 minutes so had me wondering around, not sure if my PB was there before or not, but there is not one on it since the trim.

London 2017 ballot is now open BTW
 
I "think" if you edit the run to trim the start/end it also removes PB's due to edited data. I think anyway. My first 1/2 I forgot to turn my watch off for about 15 minutes so had me wondering around, not sure if my PB was there before or not, but there is not one on it since the trim.

London 2017 ballot is now open BTW

Thanks, I ended up just changing it to a workout rather than a run so it the pb's reverted back.
 
Well done DP and Jonny! :)

I'm running Red Bull Wings for Life on Sunday in Cambridge. Running with my friend who is a wheelchair user and will let her set the pace. I'm using it as a training run rather than a race but still aiming to break 25km before the sweeper car catches us.

For anyone who's not heard of the format:

The Wings for Life World Run offers a totally new running experience, all for a good cause. Runners in 34 locations worldwide start at exactly the same time and run for as long as they can. There is no finish line, a Catcher Car will start the chase 30 minutes after the race starts and speed up slowly until everyone is over taken and eliminated. The last one running is the global winner.
 
Does anyone know if there's a way to edit out pbs from a run on strava?
My gf and I ran the Birmingham 10k and they had a section where you run indoors. This fluffed my watches time for that mile and is giving her pbs outside of what she achieved by quite a measure. Which will be harder for her to beat in the near future.

Any way to take them out without removing the run?

There is a button on there to "Add PR" you then link it to the activity. It then shows up in a all time PR's section.

I've used it when races come up at 9.99km it wont register a 10km PR. Strava won't give you a PR if you stop your timer during a run, turning off when you wait to cross a road for example. I think you'll still get the PR if you trim the end on the run, as long as you don't trim it under the distance.

https://www.strava.com/athletes/8344409

You can see it in the column on the right, I've manually added 5,10km and Half Marathon PR's
 
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OK, so I'm thinking about giving running a go...

I've never been good at running, pretty much since childhood. I suffered with asthma as a child and into my teens, and while it doesn't bother me much nowadays, I think I've just never got the hang of running any appreciable distance before my body freaks out and my legs feel exhausted. I can run 100 yards for the proverbial bus, but that's pretty much it. I was useless at sport at school, and didn't really do any proper exercise for about ten years once I finished 6th form. However, I took up cycling a few years back and have really gotten into that. I cycle to work, which is 23 miles a day, and then go for a ride at least one day at the weekend, so I'm getting a fair bit done on that front. I can cycle miles and miles at a moderate pace - I'm not fast, by decent cycling standards, but endurance is not a problem. I'm wondering whether I can try my hand at running on a similar basis, like getting good enough to manage a few miles, even if I'm not terribly fast. It would be a huge personal achievement for me if I could, because it's always been something I couldn't do, and I'm sort of feeling empowered to do it now that I've seen what I can do with cycling.

I'm doing an exercise-y type challenge at work over summer, and I'm thinking of trying my hand at running throughout that period to see how I get on with it. I am literally starting from nowhere beyond the cardio fitness I have from cycling. I don't have any gear, not even a pair of trainers. Would I be able to walk into a running shop and spend, say, £100 on shoes and kit and then have a stab at this? I'm looking at doing the Couch to 5k program, which I think I could fit reasonably well into my current routines. If I need to do 3 runs a week then I could do two sessions over lunchtimes at work in the week and then one at the weekend on whichever day I'm not cycling. It's not going to leave me much room for resting, but I guess that's the price of cycling to work every day!

Any thoughts?
 
OK, so I'm thinking about giving running a go...

I've never been good at running, pretty much since childhood. I suffered with asthma as a child and into my teens, and while it doesn't bother me much nowadays, I think I've just never got the hang of running any appreciable distance before my body freaks out and my legs feel exhausted. I can run 100 yards for the proverbial bus, but that's pretty much it. I was useless at sport at school, and didn't really do any proper exercise for about ten years once I finished 6th form. However, I took up cycling a few years back and have really gotten into that. I cycle to work, which is 23 miles a day, and then go for a ride at least one day at the weekend, so I'm getting a fair bit done on that front. I can cycle miles and miles at a moderate pace - I'm not fast, by decent cycling standards, but endurance is not a problem. I'm wondering whether I can try my hand at running on a similar basis, like getting good enough to manage a few miles, even if I'm not terribly fast. It would be a huge personal achievement for me if I could, because it's always been something I couldn't do, and I'm sort of feeling empowered to do it now that I've seen what I can do with cycling.

I'm doing an exercise-y type challenge at work over summer, and I'm thinking of trying my hand at running throughout that period to see how I get on with it. I am literally starting from nowhere beyond the cardio fitness I have from cycling. I don't have any gear, not even a pair of trainers. Would I be able to walk into a running shop and spend, say, £100 on shoes and kit and then have a stab at this? I'm looking at doing the Couch to 5k program, which I think I could fit reasonably well into my current routines. If I need to do 3 runs a week then I could do two sessions over lunchtimes at work in the week and then one at the weekend on whichever day I'm not cycling. It's not going to leave me much room for resting, but I guess that's the price of cycling to work every day!

Any thoughts?

This all sounds great. You should think of your running like your cycling, a moderate pace that you can do for longer. A lot of beginners, i was one of them, think that running should be about going out as fast as you can and then complaining that you can't run more than x miles before collapsing in a heap. Most for your running should be at a moderate comfortable pace where you can eaisly hold a conversation with someone. Running at that kind of pace maximizes the aerobic gains and the adaptions in your muscles, brain, heart, mitochondria, blood vessels, bones and ligaments while minimizing the injury risk.

Overall, running slowly lets you race faster (if you want to). It makes running less daunting and more enjoyable. You can then run fast around 20% of the time, but only once you have been running for some time to build up strength and the necessary adaptions in ligament, bones and tendons etc.

To begin with you wont need much. You could start with a cheap pair of running shoes before soon going to get a proper gait analysis and a more expensive shoe. It will be hard to know what kind of shoe you need if you haven't done any running. You will want a couple of tech shirts, any kind of polyester breathable t-shirt, same for shorts. Avoid cotton at all costs. Some god running socks will help avoid blisters.

You can download an App like Strava to your phone to record GPS measurements, getting a feel for distances, paces and times. Just avoid the common mistake of always trying to beat your previous run time, or running segment (stretches of road) as fast as possible. These apps makes it very easy to always try to better your pace, which inevitably means you re running too fast


C25k is a great program and perfect for beginners. Look out for a local ParkRun where you can get timed without the stress and cost of a race.
With the biking I expect you will cover 5K very soon if you don't run too fast.
 
Any thoughts?

It sounds like a good plan, as D.P. says don't try and do it all at once since you'll be using performing an activity your body isn't used to and it takes time to adapt. You might also find that from doing lots of cycling you've got some muscles that are more developed than others or are set in particular movement patterns so you will need to give yourself time to adapt and balance them out a bit.

I've never tried the Couch to 5k programme but from speaking to people who have it's a good starting point. Parkrun as also mentioned is good because you can do it at your own pace, some people will walk all 5km and build up through running bits of it to running all of it - as it's a timed run rather than a race everyone is typically very supportive.

In terms of trainers a great many running shops will offer free gait analysis so if you want some advice they'll happily do that for you. Quite often there will be sales on last years equipment and it'll do the job perfectly well so that's worth considering. It's no doubt nicer to have technical t-shirts to wick away sweat, dry faster and make you look pro but I ran for quite a while wearing cotton t-shirts and it wasn't the end of the world. For shorts anything you've got along the lines of football or basketball shorts is probably fine, by all means get running shorts if you are buying new or just want some new kit but I've not found it makes a huge difference. If you've got one near then Decathlon or Sports Direct will have a selection of cheap running kit that does the job, typically Kalenji at Decathlon or Karrimor at Sports Direct are cheapest but it depends what you want.
 
We have a couple of decathlon stores within reach; I hadn't thought of them for clothes but that's a good shout. There's a Sweatshop at the Trafford Centre and their website says they offer free gait analysis, though I guess that might translate into "free, provided you then spend £100 on shoes".
 
As semi-pro says, you can start basic easy enough. I ran for a long time in random t-shirts before I started picking up proper running tops/shorts. Trainers, if you have something already that's comfortable just start with them, I always find breaking in new trainers a pain so if you have something you can use already that will help with getting over that starting out hump.

Oh and as DP says keep it slow. You won't, running slower than you think you are capable of is hard, but you should ;)
 
We have a couple of decathlon stores within reach; I hadn't thought of them for clothes but that's a good shout. There's a Sweatshop at the Trafford Centre and their website says they offer free gait analysis, though I guess that might translate into "free, provided you then spend £100 on shoes".

Just as a bit of reassurance I've been into a few Sweatshops and there's not been any hard sell, I have bought trainers after each gait analysis because that's what I went in for but I'm sure I could have just thanked them and walked out if there was nothing I wanted. They do however do custom moulded footbeds which they offer as insoles, I'd have to say I couldn't feel the difference so declined them each time but again that was fine. One other thing they do offer is a 30 day refund/replacement on trainers where you've had a gait analysis so you can wear them outside to try them and still return them if necessary, it does only apply to full priced trainers though. Your local store might vary of course but I think they're generally pretty good about not pressurising sales.

As has been said you can easily start running in whatever trainers you've got provided they are comfortable so I'm not trying to give the impression that you must go to Sweatshop by any means. I'm just giving my experiences, there are plenty of other running shops you can try. When I started out I was using a pair of trainers I already had and that lasted me for quite a while until I was sure I would use them enough to fork out for a pair of specific running trainers.
 
15 miles today in 2hrs10. That was way hotter than I expected and as such felt like dehydration kicking in around mile 10, no short cut back available to just had to slug it out slowing and walking a couple of times.

Was fine till then, but that was very enjoyable. Lesson learned, will need to up hydration before or start taking water out with me.
 
Ran Red Bull Wings for Life today in Cambridge with my friend who is in a wheelchair. Conditions were really hot but thankfully plenty of hydration and energy was on offer.

I wasn't running my own race today as I'd cycled 200km yesterday and didn't fancy going too hard. That said, it was still a struggle to keep up with my friend as she sped away on the descents. I've actually bruised my toes from sprinting downhill too quickly to catch up.

We set a modest target of 25km/15.5mi which is further than I've ever ran before but ended up managing to reach 34.4km/21.4mi before we were caught by David Coulthard in the catcher car.

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My friend ended up being the top UK wheelchair and won a Garmin 520 which made me jealous!:(

Still waiting for our overall position in the UK and globally.

The global winner ran 88km!:eek:
 
^^^^ Great race. Can't imagine running 21.4m after cycling 200km!


For Vonhelmet: I wasn't meaning anything special for the tech short, any cheap polyester T from Amazon or discount sports shop will be fine. The problem with cotton is it soaks up sweat and gets wet and floppy within about 10 minutes, and then starts rubbing and chaffing, then your nipples bleed. You then get home and throw it in a corner and it satay wet and festers over the next next until it dries out as a polyester, even when wet form sweat dries out in a few hours and can go straight in the laundry basket. But then I sweat a lot and live in a place where it can be 25-30*C at 6am and 90% humidity meaning I sweat until wet just standing in the shade!


Me- took it easy this week, a little swimming, a little cycling, a little core strength. Jogged 0.6m Friday and everything felt great, although obviously weak/jello legs. Slightly longer bike ride today., swimming tomorrow morning and then maybe a 2-3 mile test run. Completely different experience to my last Marathon where I couldn't walk for days and it took weeks before I could run properly. This time round i'm going got have to force myself not to run, legs feel fantastic. I think that is also a good sign of the training, millage build -up and an appropriately paced race. 2 days of bad DOMS and then I felt better than ever!

Working out a rough plan, which will be laid by the road side since my 2nd child is due in the next weeks. However, since I managed a 3:13 despite lost training due to injury I am thinking I have a good chance of soemthign around 3:07 for the local marathon in November. IF I can get at least 3:07 then that should be an almost guaranteed Boston 2018 qualification since I will be 34 by race day.At the same time I want to keep improving my swimming and cycling. If I get under 3:07 then I will focus more on swimming + cycling with the expectation of maybe doing an Iron man end summer 2017. If I don't, well I will decide at the time but I would maybe train again for the same New Jersey marathon to get another shot of Boston. Then a half Iron man for 2017.

These are more dreams than anything but we'll see.
 
15 miles today in 2hrs10. That was way hotter than I expected and as such felt like dehydration kicking in around mile 10, no short cut back available to just had to slug it out slowing and walking a couple of times.

Was fine till then, but that was very enjoyable. Lesson learned, will need to up hydration before or start taking water out with me.

That is a good run, I love runs int he 15-16m range. Anything over about 13m I take a hydration belt and a gel pack or 2 which i don't always take but it is useful training to get your body used to consuming gels. My Neighbor never took any gels in training, he ran with a club that organized weekend long runs and put how some haribo, coke and fruit pieces which is all great until you run marathon and drink poweraid and consume gels. He felt so sick and got very dehydrated. This time round he is training a lot consuming fluids and sugar sources, trying to find out what he can stomach.
 
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