Playing music and neighbours

i dont think it's at all unreasonable to expect to be able to play music in the evening on a saturday....I have a very similar agreement with the tennents in my block of flats. as for headphones, well, buy some decent ones then you wouldnt be complaining about a lack of bass.
 
I LOVE bass but I can't play music loud at all in this paper house as we've got houses on either side with old people. They aren't loud so I respect them and don't be loud myself.

My mate on the other hand has two 12" car subs, 2 big PA style speakers,hi fi speakers and a pioneer elite amp which he doesn't hold back with. Another mate was rolling a joint 2 meters back from the subs and they blew stuff about!

Pointless if you have neighbours but I love bass in the car where it can't annoy people you have to stay next to.
 
davestar_delux said:
Putting up with noise from neighbours is part and parcel of living in a flat.

If you're not too loud or unsociable hours then they need to get used to it or just suck it up.
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so is keeping the noise down because usually the walls are thin...

some people are purely selfish though and wont go make the effort to get on with their neighbours.
 
There is anti-social noise and nuisance noise. As others have said already, anti-social noise is between 11:00pm and 7:00am, nuisance noise is between those hours and is also punishable.

Nuisance noise (like anti-social) is not just limited to music, it could be slamming cupboards or doors, dogs barking, etc. Nuisance noise is defined (I believe) by anything which prevents a person from relaxing/enjoying their own home.

You and your friends may enjoy your music, but from experiance, when trying to watch the T.V while having droning music from next door or doors intermittently being slammed at all hours, it is far from enjoyable. Frustrating and stressful, yes.

When you signed you tenancy agreement it should have had contents regarding acceptable noise. It is also worth mentioning that the landlord is every bit as responsable as the tenant for the noise, I believe he can also be prosecuted for it.

Like others have said, maybe you should talk to the neighbours to find some middleground but make no mistake how badly noise can impact on peoples lives, things can go from being civil to ugly in a very short space of time.
 
Another key question is what does it say in your tenancy agreement? Ours has a line to the effect of 'you must not play music between the hours of 11pm and 7am, or in such a way as to cause distress to your neighbours at any other time'.

In theory if my neighbours complain to my landlord that I am playing loud music at 7pm he can choose to enforce some of the provisions in our contract.

As someone on the receiving end of loud bass music at all times of the day and night it is a very frustrating position to be in, so I can understand your neighbours pain. I would therefore point out to you that if you want to spend your free time listening to dubstep you should consider moving to a detached house.

Your neighbours probably didn't want to come and talk you because they are intimidated by the sort of person who is willing to play music at high volumes without regard for their neighbours.
 
garak112 said:
Your neighbours probably didn't want to come and talk you because they are intimidated by the sort of person who is willing to play music at high volumes without regard for their neighbours.
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Then they are bigoted idiots. ;)

Where do you draw the line with nuisance noise then? Hoovering? Using the washing machine? Both of those can be as loud as music (when I used to live in a 2nd floor flat our floor would rumble when the guys downstairs had their washer on!). Would you consider it unreasonable for someone to do their washing at 6pm on a Saturday?

Not being able to play your music as loud as you want is, unfortunately part of living in a flat, however that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to play it at reasonable volumes at reasonable times.

Likewise, if you live in a flat you should be aware, and prepared that you will be able to hear your neighbours at times, and learn to live with it. If noise is such a major issue for them, maybe they should consider moving.

Of course, since they're above you, I'm sure you can hear them walking around etc. You could consider complaining whenever you hear footsteps, just to highlight how petty they are being.*




*Only do this if you want a very bad relationship with them :p
 
We are moving out of our flat into a house soon and in the last 3 places that we have lived in music and noise has been an issue at all but the current place.

Only thing I would really stress is talk to your neighbours. I find that if channels are closed it will only end up inflating a situation which could be fixed amicably, easily!
 
I was reading through and agree you didnt have it on at terrible times and was going to suggest as most had speaking to them as its a weekend and we all like to chill out with music and beers i know i do but come on your responses to the suggestions make you sound like a childish burberry cap wearing teen!

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4. Dont mind doing this but might find out they do work nights or something and then cant play music at all.
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Get a grip, its compromise, you live in a flat so regardless of time still have to be understand of others around you.

Guest2 said:
We are moving out in July, might just continue as normal. All they can do is phone the landlords, police will do nothing about music at 7pm on saturday night. Maybe just laugh at them. I have lived with a policeman and he played metal when he came in after nights. Didnt bother me
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Im starting to think you might be annoying with or without the music with that attitude.
 
Guest2 said:
... What is the law regarding music levels and time? ...
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I sggest you check your tenancy agreement; that is likely to be of more immediate concern that the Environmental Health Officer ;)

Guest2 said:
... We are NOT going stop playing music just because neighbours work strange hours and want to get some sleep when its 6pm
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You could always move out . . . I'm sure that both your landlord and your neighbours would be devastated, but so it goes . . .
 
They sound reasonable, I would reciprocate. As others have suggested, go round theirs when your music is on and at a point they consider it a nuisance and experience what they are experiencing. It will put it all into perspective and give you the knowledge needed to make an informed decision. You'll probably have more understanding regarding their issues.
It's great to have good neighbors, but like all friendships they require work. Conversely it's just awful to have neighbors you don't get on with.
 
Haggisman said:
Where do you draw the line with nuisance noise then? Hoovering? Using the washing machine? Both of those can be as loud as music (when I used to live in a 2nd floor flat our floor would rumble when the guys downstairs had their washer on!). Would you consider it unreasonable for someone to do their washing at 6pm on a Saturday
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No and the noises you describe cannot be considered a nuisance because they have arisen due to the ordinary use of residential premises.
 
Kinda missing the point though aren't you. You have a choice how loud the TV or Music is, I'm yet to spot a washing machine or hoover with a volume control. :confused:

There's a difference between listening to Music or watching TV at "normal" volume, i.e. perfectly audible, and having it on loud disturbing others because that's the way you "prefer" it. It's about choice and consideration for others. On the flip side I would hope the neighbours would be fine with music turned up a bit on occasion as long as it's not all the time.

Either way it's better to talk to the neighbours and come to an amicable agreement than go with "I have £1000 of audio equipment and I'm not going to wear headphones so **** 'em" attitude.
 
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There are some seriously retarded replies in this thread. How can anyone comment when he has simply said "we were playing some Dubstep"? No one knows how loud it was, so slagging him off for not caring about other people is a bit ridiculous.

As for the ‘lol dubstep is crap’ comments, just because you don’t like something, it doesn’t make it crap.
 
Athanor said:
Kinda missing the point though aren't you. You have a choice how loud the TV or Music is, I'm yet to spot a washing machine or hoover with a volume control. :confused:
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Not really, they both make a noise which could be classed as a nuisance. If you have the TV or music so quiet you can't hear it unless your sitting right next to the speaker (which lets face it, in most modern builds is the only way you're not going to hear anything through the wall/floor/ceiling) then it defeats the purpose of having it on at all, so you're effectively prevented from using it. You may suggest headphones, but that's only appropriate if you're listening/watching on your own, so again, not really a suitable alternative.

I'm not advocating the OP blaring his music out stupidly loud, or playing it at anti-social hours, of course he has to take into consideration the fact his neighbours can hear it, but at the same time, the neighbours have to be conscious of the fact that they are going to hear noises at times, because there's someone living there.

We don't know what volume the OP was actually playing the music, or how picky the neighbours are being, but playing music at 6-7pm on a Saturday night is definitely not unreasonable unless it's stupidly loud.

Edited for your edit :p: I agree with the second part of your post, however, having lived in flats, I know how quiet you can have things and for it still to be audible in the adjoining flats.
 
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I have had this problem about 2 months ago when we had people move into the house next to us.

When doing a clean and polish of the house i like to listen to music (At a pretty high level, in the day)

Had them come round complaining saying it was very loud. So i asked if next time if it would be ok if i could go around to hear it for myself.

Next time i went round and altho i thought the walls was not that thin, it would seem they are :p As could hear the music pretty well.

So got there number, went back home and slowly turned it down intill they was happy with it. Im happy with the current volume and so are they. So we are both happy.

Sounds like you are being a selfish child in your posts to me. Just because YOU think it's a decent time of day to play music, it may not be for everyone else.
 
ScarySquirrel said:
There are some seriously retarded replies in this thread. How can anyone comment when he has simply said "we were playing some Dubstep"? No one knows how loud it was, so slagging him off for not caring about other people is a bit ridiculous.

As for the ‘lol dubstep is crap’ comments, just because you don’t like something, it doesn’t make it crap.
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The fact the neighbours have complained about the volume, thus being a nuisance to them surely provides the evidence that the volume is excessive? Also he has stated that he had "12 people" in the flat, now unless these people had taken a vow of silence, walked on sponges or were just playing musical statues then i'd imagine there would have been noise.

12 people in a flat, drinking(?), with music on that is loud enough to annoy the neighbours, it can be assumed that those people in the flat would have to raise their voices to communicate over the music. This doesn't seem like the recipe for a tranquil scene to me.
 
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